Thanksgiving and some Lols

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WOPR

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Just thought I'd post a few funny facts about thanksgiving that I find hilarious and hope you will too!

(please note if this is flawed or trails off, I started typing at 5:00 am)

1) The first dinner, was more or less the English thinking they'd show off and show their power by firing off their guns while waiting for some food, upon the loud bangs the Natives were wondering what was going on so 90 Indians (I believe) showed up to see what was happening, then they all kinda had a laugh and ate food (of course they had to get more)

2) The lobster they had at the time was roughly 5 feet from claw to claw (and tasted AWFUL!) so while it is true there WAS lobster at the time; it wasn't very edible.

3) Turkey wasn't actually the "main food" of the meal, it was actually deer meat! (because I can't spell venisin correctly)

4) The Pilgrims were communist! (take that America! your first settlers are the thing you claim to hate most! -yes I am American )
EDIT: For anyone else saying "The English were a Monarchy" the Pilgrims themselves left England due to religious persecution and started a new life in "The New World" upon breaking off they had to establish their own government; which was "Communal Law" (aka Communism)


I'll add more/fix stuff when I wake up more... right now my head is about to smash into the keyboard

Happy thanksgiving everyone!
eat deer and shoot guns into the air!

...alright fine, eat loads of turkey!
 

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Pirate Kitty said:
WOPR said:
4) The Pilgrims were communist! (take that America! your first settlers are the thing you claim to hate most! -yes I am American )
The pilgrims were English - their governing body was a monarch.

What was that you told me about being ill-informed?
The Pilgrims were English, I won't doubt that but the Pilgrims lived by "Communal Law".

EDIT: The Pilgrims themselves left England due to religious persecution and started a new life in "The New World" upon breaking off they had to establish their own government; which was "Communal Law" (aka Communism)

Is that better?
 

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Pirate Kitty said:
WOPR said:
4) The Pilgrims were communist! (take that America! your first settlers are the thing you claim to hate most! -yes I am American )
The pilgrims were English - their governing body was a monarch.

What was that you told me about being ill-informed?
I lol'd =D
 

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ThreeWords said:
Pirate Kitty said:
WOPR said:
4) The Pilgrims were communist! (take that America! your first settlers are the thing you claim to hate most! -yes I am American )
The pilgrims were English - their governing body was a monarch.

What was that you told me about being ill-informed?
I lol'd =D
Well I fixed the post but here

The Pilgrims themselves left England due to religious persecution and started a new life in "The New World" upon breaking off they had to establish their own government; which was "Communal Law" (aka Communism)
 

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Pirate Kitty said:
WOPR said:
4) The Pilgrims were communist! (take that America! your first settlers are the thing you claim to hate most! -yes I am American )
The pilgrims were English - their governing body was a monarch.

What was that you told me about being ill-informed?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the pilgrims go to America in order to get away from England? I don't think they would answer to their former monarch.
 

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Jonluw said:
Pirate Kitty said:
WOPR said:
4) The Pilgrims were communist! (take that America! your first settlers are the thing you claim to hate most! -yes I am American )
The pilgrims were English - their governing body was a monarch.

What was that you told me about being ill-informed?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the pilgrims go to America in order to get away from England? I don't think they would answer to their former monarch.
I fixed the post after being hit by that "come back".

Maybe she got the immigrant pilgrims escaping their government, mixed up with Columbus' idea to get to Asia faster before crashing into America? (please say I worded that right I'm REALLY tired)
 

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Pirate Kitty said:
WOPR said:
establish their own government; which was "Communal Law" (aka Communism)
Communal law doth not equal communism.

Perhaps a little thing called the declaration of independence should help clear up any ideas you have of America ever being anything but democratic.
Actually, being that we have representatives currently, and all that other fun stuff, we're a Republic, not a Democracy. (and honestly if we were a Democracy we wouldn't get anything done because we'd be counting votes and voting on everything... EVERYTHING!)

As for being Capitalist, I'm pretty sure we are, how else could the top 2% of the country own 90% of the money while the tiny remaining 98% of the population fights over that 10% cash?

But I'm getting off topic, this is about thanksgiving and irony, not government and politics.

I personally am wondering what it would be like to have a lobster 5 feet across from claw to claw as a pet.

EDIT: -and if it would be possible to ride on such a shellfish! (and yeah I thought of the "Giant Enemy Crab" joke...)
 

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Pirate Kitty said:
WOPR said:
establish their own government; which was "Communal Law" (aka Communism)
Communal law doth not equal communism.

Perhaps a little thing called the declaration of independence should help clear up any ideas you have of America ever being anything but democratic.
Once again, I don't know much about American history, but didn't the first thanksgiving happen about 150 years prior to the declaration of independence? Prior to the USA even being a united country.
 

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Jonluw said:
Pirate Kitty said:
WOPR said:
establish their own government; which was "Communal Law" (aka Communism)
Communal law doth not equal communism.

Perhaps a little thing called the declaration of independence should help clear up any ideas you have of America ever being anything but democratic.
Once again, I don't know much about American history, but didn't the first thanksgiving happen about 150 years prior to the declaration of independence? Prior to the USA even being a united country.
I DO know about American history! (sort of I always hated history...)

But yes the declaration was quite a ways ahead; plus they had to start out with something, and when you're first starting out a government where you take what you need and give what you can works great! (especially when there's only a few people)

Now, I'm going back to my thoughts on the pet giant lobster.
and wondering what deer tastes like (I have never had deer.)
 

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WOPR said:
4) The Pilgrims were communist! (take that America! your first settlers are the thing you claim to hate most!
The funny part is that the colony was about to starve to death until John Smith came along and instituted the "don't work, don't eat" policy, which saved the colony. Marx should have looked at the example of the first American colonists to see that communism is a flawed system.
 

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Yeah, being the boring person I am I watched maybe two hours of the History Channel talking about Thanksgiving.

The reason turkey is now the national food for Thanksgiving is that originally turkey was dirt-cheap and could feed an entire family. Everyone did it, so it eventually became the Thanksgiving mascot.
 

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Pirate Kitty said:
WOPR said:
[America] is a republic, not a democracy. (and honestly if we were a Democracy we wouldn't get anything done because we'd be counting votes and voting on everything... EVERYTHING!)[sic]
No. The United States of America is a democracy. The fact that you suggest it is not, scares me beyond belief.

WOPR said:
As for being Capitalist[sic], I'm pretty sure we are, how else could the top 2% of the country own 90% of the money while the tiny remaining 98% of the population fights over that 10% cash?
Please point out where I mentioned capitalism. Oh. I didn't. Right.
WOPR said:
I personally am wondering what it would be like to have a lobster 5 feet across from claw to claw as a pet.

EDIT: -and if it would be possible to ride on such a shellfish! (and yeah I thought of the "Giant Enemy Crab" joke...)
Lobsters have never reached that length in claw to claw measurement. In fact, the longest record of such a length is little more than two feet.
1) It's a republic because we have representatives, by definition we're a republic (or to be more friendly a "Democratic-Republic" because we still kinda vote)

the fact that you'll hold to your beliefs instead of looking at dead set in stone facts scares me because there's people like that living here and voting! (so that's how bush won...)

And before you say "we're not a republic" allow me to repeat a line from the pledge of allegiance

"I pledge allegiance, to the flag, of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands..."

2) No you didn't mention Capitalism, but people need to learn the difference from the implied "Democracy vs Communism" Democracy is a government type; Communism is an economic type; so the fight is either "Democracy vs Totalitarianism" (a fight I would join the Demo side on BIG time) or "Capitalism vs Communism"

3) Okay yes I'm sorry I was listening to The History Channel on that one, wouldn't expect them to lie- but either way I still want a Giant Lobster! (weather it's, 5 feet, 2 feet, or anything else)
 

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TheYellowCellPhone said:
Yeah, being the boring person I am I watched maybe two hours of the History Channel talking about Thanksgiving.

The reason turkey is now the national food for Thanksgiving is that originally turkey was dirt-cheap and could feed an entire family. Everyone did it, so it eventually became the Thanksgiving mascot.
Ahh so THAT'S how, and you're boring like me too? lol
Thanks for the info

MoeTheMonk said:
WOPR said:
4) The Pilgrims were communist! (take that America! your first settlers are the thing you claim to hate most!
The funny part is that the colony was about to starve to death until John Smith came along and instituted the "don't work, don't eat" policy, which saved the colony. Marx should have looked at the example of the first American colonists to see that communism is a flawed system.
I feel that should be a part of communism (if it isn't already) but please don't blame Marx for oh say Stalin *shrugs*

Just imagine what would happen if Lincoln (the first republican) saw Palin or Bush?

Either way, it's a good point (still really tired so excuse mis-wordings) and... umm... OH!

oh yeah

why do people keep commenting on the Communism one?
What about the lobsters? and the Pilgrims showing off their firepower and ending up drawing attention?

(I made the mistake of comparing a Giant lobster claw to a bear trap and now have a weird thought of "Giant Lobster vs Bear")
 

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Pirate Kitty said:
WOPR said:
"Democratic-Republic"
Hmmm, this doesn't seem to gel with your previous statement.

WOPR said:
[The United States is a] Republic, not a Democracy.
I didn't say I really agree with it; it's just what it's called here (probably to keep people happy/distracted)

I still see it as a "Republic" because that's pretty much what it is; it's just called a "Democratic-Republic" here, funny how they slowly shell out the truth while continuing to hide it a bit.

Oh and quick question for the people reading this
Wasn't Gandhi a communist? or am I wrong?
I know his political standpoint landed really close to communist but I've still yet to find out what he REALLY was. (if it even says)