"That action did not warrant those evil points!"
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I shot the fucker to set Gob free, and to ensure that Simms' power in Megaton was unchallenged.Yureina said:
It was worth the Karma loss.
I always wondered how hard and fast that dead or alive rule was:Ironic Pirate said:
Bounty Hunter 1: "OK, here's your man, I'll collect my fee now"
Bondsman (imagine Alan Rickman): "Very well, now is he dead or alive?"
Bounty Hunter 1: "errr... well... he's kinda like a zombie now"
Bondsman: "Ohh no. Sorry. It says right here, plain English 'Dead or Alive', I can't be dealing with the undead, we don't have the facilities, we don't know whether to bury them or imprison them. No vampires either. NEXT!"
Bounty Hunter 2: "Why hello thar, here be my first bounty, where do ah sign?"
Bondsman: "euuugh.... Dead or Alive?"
bounty Hunter 2: "hmm, well the thing is I locked him in a safe with a radioactive poison that had a 50% chance of killing him. Now I asked my Physicist friend and he says that he is BOTH Alive AND Dead. So the way I see it I should get a bounty for both living and dead"
Bondsman: "*facepalm* you fucking cowboy bastards. It's not like it is the most complex legal terms, it is Dead OR Alive. Sorry, Dead 'And' Alive, I can't take it. NEXT!"
Bounty Hunter 3: "Howdey, Bondsman"
Bondsman: "And what about your prisoner, is he dead or alive?"
Bounty Hunter 3: "well... it's what the Doctor's call a persistent vegetative state and..."
Bondsman: "Oh of FUUUUUUUUU- Sake! I don't have time to deal with such technicalities, I'd have taken a coma, I'd have taken brain dead but how the hell am I going to operate in such legal grey areas? Is there Anyone here who is actually dead?
Criminal: "I'm dead"
Bondsman: "... no you're not"
Criminal: "Well.... not yet, see I'm fed up of being on the run, but I just need some money to pay a ransom for my Brother but I can't bring myself in alive - that would just be surrendering."
Bondsman: "riiiiiight"
Criminal: "So I figure if I just blow my brains out right here, you can just send the money from the death bounty to Brutal Bill in exchange for mah brother's releases"
Bondsman: "oh kay, now hold on a minute..."
*BANG*
Bondsman: "well... finally something I can actually file"
Yeah, I didn't get why I lost Karma for blowing his head off and throwing him off a balcony. Oh, wait...Yureina said:
I think he deserved it, though. He's the only Irish character in the game, and he's an utter scumbag. I mean, come on!
Yeah, so many of you are talking about Fallout 3 and gaining evil karma for killing Moriarty. I agree that the dude was no good, but I have bigger beef with the game.
The quest Oasis is all backwards, in my opinion. In this quest, Harold is a mutated Wastelander who is now surrounded by a tree and in a sense fused with the tree. He was mutated in prior Fallouts. Essentially, the tree surrounding him and linked to his heart is creating new life (trees) in the otherwise barren wasteland. There are four outcomes, killing Harold's heart, applying the sap to stop the spread of the trees, applying the liniment to speed up the spread of the trees, and burning Harold.
So let me ask you, of those four outcomes, which merits good karma, and which merits bad karma? To me it seems like applying the liniment is the good choice and the other three are all evil choices. Now the quest is deeper than that. Harold requests to die because his life is torture due to the tree. However, he hates fire. So essentially, burning him yields bad karma, killing his heart yields good karma (I believe it does, I've forgotten, it may not yield any karma), and the other two outcomes yield no karma, negative or positive.
How does this make sense? The selfish option, choosing one person's life over the healing of the world, is right? I understand it isn't right for Harold to be kept in torture so that his mutated gifts help everyone else, but at the same time, is it right to put one person above the world?
In my opinion, applying the liniment should yield good karma, killing the heart should yield neutral karma, and the other two should give negative karma. What do you all think?
The quest Oasis is all backwards, in my opinion. In this quest, Harold is a mutated Wastelander who is now surrounded by a tree and in a sense fused with the tree. He was mutated in prior Fallouts. Essentially, the tree surrounding him and linked to his heart is creating new life (trees) in the otherwise barren wasteland. There are four outcomes, killing Harold's heart, applying the sap to stop the spread of the trees, applying the liniment to speed up the spread of the trees, and burning Harold.
So let me ask you, of those four outcomes, which merits good karma, and which merits bad karma? To me it seems like applying the liniment is the good choice and the other three are all evil choices. Now the quest is deeper than that. Harold requests to die because his life is torture due to the tree. However, he hates fire. So essentially, burning him yields bad karma, killing his heart yields good karma (I believe it does, I've forgotten, it may not yield any karma), and the other two outcomes yield no karma, negative or positive.
How does this make sense? The selfish option, choosing one person's life over the healing of the world, is right? I understand it isn't right for Harold to be kept in torture so that his mutated gifts help everyone else, but at the same time, is it right to put one person above the world?
In my opinion, applying the liniment should yield good karma, killing the heart should yield neutral karma, and the other two should give negative karma. What do you all think?
Mass Effect 2:
How does punting a guy out a window give me renegade points if I just slaughtered dozens of his comrades on the way in? What makes him so special?
EDIT: Woo! New page! That's good luck!
How does punting a guy out a window give me renegade points if I just slaughtered dozens of his comrades on the way in? What makes him so special?
EDIT: Woo! New page! That's good luck!
You ever had something stolen from you? Not a nice experience. Not only that, but taking their money means they have no way to buy things like food or medicine, and taking their weapons means they have no way to defend themselves from raiders, or to obtain things which they otherwise would have been able to buy with the money you stole.fenrizz said:
On the topic, one thing that springs to mind is the Arefu quest from Fallout 3:
So let me get this straight, you put someone that has the occasional black-out during which they tend to brutally murder people and then consume their corpses into an unsuspecting community, and this is considered a good thing? At least they didn't give you negative karma for convincing him to stay with the vampire people that teach self-control.
