That new halo 4 info- Uhh 343.... What are you doing?

[Jegsimmons]

lets see, 343 is really the same heads as bungie, and this news is coming from some website i know not of, and no word of it on rooster teeth...


i call bullshit.

 

[Skin]

They needed to make the game closer to H3 rather than Reach, and they failed that quite miserably. Also the genocide of skill gap continues its rampancy (H1>2>3>R).

This is going to be Call of Duty: Halo.

I might buy it second hand to play campaign, but if I hear that the Flood returned, I am not even going to do that. I will just play Halo 1 and 3.

 

[daveman247]

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If you're going to change all the core mechanics of a game, use a new IP. You can say change is good but when it drastically reduces the number of players of a 'previous' game because it's apparently a successor, where do you go to play that kind of game? Nowhere, because the identity of that IP has been lost.

Reach was a step in the wrong direction, and this is a huge fall that same way.

Thats rather melodramatic... A few spawn options changes and suddenly its a whole new game? Riiiight.

And halo reach has just as many players as ever, so im not sure where you are going with that.

 

[Erttheking]

If liking this kind of stuff makes me a Call of Duty scrub then screw it, I'm a long time Halo fan and I actually like some of these ideas.

 

[GoaThief]

CVG is oldschool and legit for those doubting its credentials.

As for Halo 4, I'm really surprised with this direction. After the success that was Halo CE Anniversary I thought 343 would be looking to recapture the vibe of earlier games not COD and reducing the skill ceiling even further. As this thread and the other one demonstrates though, there are quite a few who rather prefer mindless, low skill multiplayer games so it may be the correct financial choice if it steals COD fans.

 

[SajuukKhar]

Well, I clearly see no reasons to believe that 343 represents Microsoft milking Bungie's franchise for all it's worth without adding to it or living up to its legacy. No, siree...

You mean the legacy they killed after the first game when they made the next 6 games utter garbage?

Hey, man, I know you're sad about the loss of the sniper pistol, but it's time had come

Na I hated the pistol myself.

It was how god-awful the story/characters/level design became after the first game, that and Halo made 2 weapon limits and regen health popular, such BS.

Cortana went from being cool to "lets give her bigger boobs and maker her more stupid" each game.

At least they were able to salvage something decent with the books.

 

[fozzy360]

that and Halo made 2 weapon limits and regen health popular, such BS.

Is that not the fault of the devs who aped that aspect into their games and not the fault of the game that started it?

 

[Tsun Tzu]

The lack of elites is a matter of concern for me. I'll be softly weeping in the corner if anyone needs me.

 

[SajuukKhar]

that and Halo made 2 weapon limits and regen health popular, such BS.

Is that not the fault of the devs who aped that aspect into their games and not the fault of the game that started it?

It is the cause of the cause and thus the root cause of the problem. They could have stuck with the good stuff but they didn't.

that and I really cant forgive how badly the messed up Cortana, she could have been Durendal level good but instead they ruined it.

 

[Buttersnaps]

Yeah, Halo is moving more in the Call of Duty direction. Not necessarily bad as long as these elements are properly implemented. We'll just need to see how the game feels once they release it. As long as it still feels like a Halo game, I will be satisfied. I like the fact people can join mid-game. When someone leaves a match the balances gets totally messed up. 343 seems like they are putting a lot of effort into this game, let's hope it shows.

 

[Vigormortis]

Me: Good God, Call of Duty is literally ruining the industry. It's grimy paws have been getting into almost every other online game out there. Even games that are nothing like COD.

Someone else: Nonsense. Call of Duty isn't ruining the industry. It's just a popular game. It's not like sci-fi games or such things are trying to copy it.

*reads list of features in the OP*

Me: Um...you were saying?


I've given up on trying to find a reason to play on Xbox Live. (let alone my 360 at this point) Seriously just a few steps away from just selling it all. The "exclusives" on that console are really not worth it any more.

Besides, need I remind anyone of the awful, awful, awful "first outing" by 343?

 

[SajuukKhar]

Me: Good God, Call of Duty is literally ruining the industry. It's grimy paws have been getting into almost every other online game out there. Even games that are nothing like COD.

Someone else: Nonsense. Call of Duty isn't ruining the industry. It's just a popular game. It's not like sci-fi games or such things are trying to copy it.

*reads list of features in the OP*

Me: Um...you were saying?


I've given up on trying to find a reason to play on Xbox Live. (let alone my 360 at this point) Seriously just a few steps away from just selling it all. The "exclusives" on that console are really not worth it any more.

Besides, need I remind anyone of the awful, awful, awful "first outing" by 343?

What Halo: anniversary?

It wasn't that bad.

 

[Scow2]

Smaller maps? I sure as hell hope not! The best part of Halo was the large, sprawling maps that were so colorful and fun to fight on! I remember opening up the entire Forge World, and having 4 people play on it :3.

It's not a whole lot of information, but to be honest I think most of it sounds pretty bad.

Firefight was cool. We don't need some potentially lameass story driven mode instead, we already have the campaign. While there are some who like it, how many people want to have their coop game crammed full of story related fluff and a specific plotline anyway?
Man, this was one of the reasons Halo multiplayer was so great. You didn't need to worry about story crap, you just jumped in and shot up a bunch of dudes for wearing a different colour, often resulting in damn good fun. Now it seems they want story to seep through every part of the game, multiplayer too.
Crap, maybe it'd be like spawning in a wall in Forge and then having a big text window come up and detail that particular type of wall's history.

What? A LOT of people like the flavor text of every multiplayer map in Halo... It gave the fights a fun context, and great flavor. However, the Text thing is just you needing a tinfoil hat.

SpartanOPs might be better than "Survive against enemy waves" by making it a fun, large-scale PvE objective-based game.

Every Halo since 2 added "Story" to the multiplayer - it's unobtrusive to those who don't care, and to those who do, it's pretty much just like Unreal Tournament - the ORIGINAL multiplayer FPS extravaganza.

Forerunner vision? Aside from sounding stupid it'll be OP as hell. Sneaking will be rendered useless. I wouldn't be surprised if there's some sort of railgun type thing they'll put in the game that can one hit kill through walls to go along with it, and I'll bet it can see cloaked players too.

Not OP as hell - It's a tactical advantage like Armor Lock or Jetpacks. Sneaking's not useless - you just have to be aware that someone might have Forerunner Vision and change up your game. As for the railgun.... I HIGHLY doubt it - The Forerunner Vision thing is a defensive/intelligence armor upgrade, and completely useless against a rocket to the face.

Spartan points? Seriously? Are they going to do that thing where they give stuff in their game silly names pertaining to other stuff in the game to try and make it sound cooler and original?

Why Reds and Blues fight, this is completely retarded. So the UNSC has the technology and capability to replicate a combat situation virtually down to the last detail but for decades got their ASSES handed to them by an alien empire primarily armed with laughably ineffective weapons and vehicles, lead by dumbasses and whose military forces are mostly comprised of stupid midgets?
Also why are they fighting each other? Seeing as there's only what, a few hundred million humans left, you'd think the UNSC would consider the real potential future threat to be the Flood/Covenant/Alien whatever. When you think about it, it would make more sense for the SIV's to fight against non-human enemies, which would mean that a VR Firefight type mode which the Spartan's fight aliens in would make perfect sense!

Wait, you're complaining about the UNSC having virtual reality simulations? You mean, like the Virtual Reality simulations the U.S. military is developing? And they're fighting "Each Other" because another soldier is better for training against than an artificial intelligence attempting to mimic another species' combat ability (And that's what the SpartanOPS is for anyway).

Also, you're not giving the Covenant enough credit: "Grunts" are as large and strong as any human, and I have no idea what you've been smoking to think that Covenant weaponry is "Laughably ineffective" - especially compared to what the UNSC has to counter it: The basic Plasma Pistol is better than almost any human weapon.

Random weapon spawns? The worst of the lot. I don't think anyone even needs to explain how horrid this will be.

Mixing up the routine is a bad thing? What?

Instant respawn? Bad, considering the absolute suckyness of Halo's spawns.

Meh, if they make the respawn points varied enough and far enough apart, I'd find this to be a benefit.

Join games in progress? This would be great if it weren't for how Halo multiplayer matches are and have always been designed. They'll have to revamp the entire matchmaking system for it to work well.

None of these issues are exactly game breakers for me personally, but if they've already messed up this much stuff how much stuff will they ultimately mess up in the finished game? I think I'll wait for a couple more trailers.

They've not messed anything up yet.

 

[SajuukKhar]

Halo 4 needs a PC port done by Gearbox so they can make another Halo Custom Edition.

Halo Custom Edition was so badass because of all the good maps people made, so much better then that forge shit.

Also they modded in new vehicles and other stuff.

dual sword was the best, as were sniper rifles that shot rocket rounds at the speed of sniper bullets.

 

[Dogstile]

New halo is fucked purely because now you can see through walls. Seriously, has that worked in any game? I've always thought it was needlessly unfair.

 

[Vigormortis]

Me: Good God, Call of Duty is literally ruining the industry. It's grimy paws have been getting into almost every other online game out there. Even games that are nothing like COD.

Someone else: Nonsense. Call of Duty isn't ruining the industry. It's just a popular game. It's not like sci-fi games or such things are trying to copy it.

*reads list of features in the OP*

Me: Um...you were saying?


I've given up on trying to find a reason to play on Xbox Live. (let alone my 360 at this point) Seriously just a few steps away from just selling it all. The "exclusives" on that console are really not worth it any more.

Besides, need I remind anyone of the awful, awful, awful "first outing" by 343?

What Halo: anniversary?

It wasn't that bad.

Maybe not comparatively speaking, but the "additions" added in by 343 that weren't already a part of the game Bungie built were lazy and uninspired. Anniversary was basically Halo: CE with an awful new paint job and Reach-multiplayer-slim crowbarred together. Even then, 343 didn't really do it well.

I'm just saying, I really don't have hopes for Halo now that 343 is in the drivers seat.

Granted, my apathy towards Halo 4 could be a side-effect of the apathy I have towards the 360 in general, but I'm more inclined to think it's just another reason to have that apathy.

I will admit I haven't really been fond of any Halo game beyond CE, ODST, and Wars. Might be because I prefer the campaign to the multi-player, but still... I can't imagine any long-time Halo fan being "excited" for this list of new "features". At least, in it's entirety.

 

[Zen Toombs]

This one is starting to learn.

Rudimentary creatures of blood and flesh, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

The pattern has repeated itself more times than you can fathom. New video games rise, evolve, advance, and at the apex of their glory they are extinguished. Halo was not the first. They did not create the Fandom. They did not forge the fires of nerdrage. They merely found them - the legacy of my kind.

 

[I-Protest-I]

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Hey if you want someone to play halo/hang out with on xbox add Tuppy Trump me and my friends always welcome new people.

 

[Ix Rebound]

No Elites in multiplayer?

PASS.

actually i swore a saw an elite in a halo 4 screenshot, i cant find it but don't count them out yet

 

[TheSapphireKnight]

From even the few releases of have seen from 343 that explain some of the details. It is NOT going to be as bad as it sounds. Just relax people.