The Alex Mauer Situation

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RaikuFA said:
Smithnikov said:

>River City Ransom is indeed off of Steam thanks to this psycho ****. Conatus Creative are one of my favorite dev teams going right now, so this shit now burns me up personally.

>Mauer fired her own attorney. This is getting cartoon levels of inept/evil.
I bought that during the Steam sale, does it get deleted from my library?
No, they would be required to stop selling if they took it to court and lost, but they wouldn't force recall it, like with the oculus vs Zenimax case they had a much more serious claim that the oculus was based on stolen code, but could only really stop them selling new models not confiscate old ones. In a hypothetical case with a digital product there might be a line where a platform like steam would have to revoke consumer access as well but this bullshit claim isn't going to prompt Steam to do that.

This particular DMCA claim is based on nothing anyway so Steam will likely put the store page back up fairly shortly, people that already own the game shouldn't be effected.
 

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I wonder where the transgender issue really began. I kinda shrugged off the whole thing about her family seeking involuntary psychiatric care as a typical dramatic parental response at first.

But I later read that a former chief of psychiatry at Johns Hopkins had a commentary in the Wall Street Journal where he stated it was a mental disorder, similar to a "dangerously thin" person suffering anorexia who looks in the mirror and thinks they are "overweight," and that it does neither the public nor the transgender community any favors by promoting it as a civil rights movement that needs defending. It also mentioned a statistic that the transgender suicide rate post-reassignment is 20 times higher than non transgender people, and that they have since stopped performing such surgeries since most people (70-80%) with transgender feelings abandon them later in life.

It makes the case that perhaps surgery isn't addressing the root of the issue, if there is an issue at all.
 

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RaikuFA said:
Smithnikov said:

>River City Ransom is indeed off of Steam thanks to this psycho ****. Conatus Creative are one of my favorite dev teams going right now, so this shit now burns me up personally.

>Mauer fired her own attorney. This is getting cartoon levels of inept/evil.
I bought that during the Steam sale, does it get deleted from my library?
No, it should be fine. My own copy was unaffected.
 

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RaikuFA said:
Smithnikov said:

>River City Ransom is indeed off of Steam thanks to this psycho ****. Conatus Creative are one of my favorite dev teams going right now, so this shit now burns me up personally.

>Mauer fired her own attorney. This is getting cartoon levels of inept/evil.
I bought that during the Steam sale, does it get deleted from my library?
no right now it's just not available for sale. You could stil delete and re-install it as much as you want. They would need to revoke the key and give you a refund to remove it from your library.

Just as an example: http://steamcommunity.com/app/205590/discussions/
<here is a game I have that has not been on sale for about 5 years now, still in the library, still can download it if I wish,
and still a broken piece of crap.
 

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Smithnikov said:
>Mauer fired her own attorney. This is getting cartoon levels of inept/evil.
Its pretty clear that Mauer needs psychological help, though she is fighting it tooth and nail from the sound of it 'not in her right mind' is the very strong impression I'm getting from her behavior and decisions. I feel sorry for her, though given all the crap she's causing, I can very much understand why others (especially those directly affected) will be more angry.

hanselthecaretaker said:
The primary source of transition surgeries being 'undone' is families who were not supportive of someone being trans 'detransitioning' them after their death to try and ignore their child's true gender. Moreover, lack of support and denial of being gender identity by ones family and society in general is the primary reason those who are Trans (particularly children and teenagers) are more likely to suffer poor mental health and attempt suicide.

Of course, showing love and support of a trans child/teenagers gender identity and transitioning vastly improves their mental health and well-being... But people like to decry that as child abuse.

In this particular case, I'd like to imagine that Mauer being trans had no bearing on this at all... except, of course, transphobic shit-stains piled on with dead-naming and dragging up her birth certificate and pre-transition photo's because they cant be decent human beings when a trans person is involved, and that GENUINE persecution by vile little turds has probably fed into her general perception that she is genuinely the victim here, and should stay the course and fight on.
 

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inu-kun said:
So if I get it right, The whole contreversy is about a shitty person which is clearly in fault but gets treated as a victim (and generally far better than anyone else doing the exact same thing) solely because he is part of a minority group?
. No. It's because it's been established she has mental problems and needs help.
 

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erttheking said:
inu-kun said:
So if I get it right, The whole contreversy is about a shitty person which is clearly in fault but gets treated as a victim (and generally far better than anyone else doing the exact same thing) solely because he is part of a minority group?
. No. It's because it's been established she has mental problems and needs help.
I am merely an observer to this ongoing story but inu-kun's assessment seems to be the most accurate based on what I have seen and read. Has this Mauer person been formally and professionally diagnosed as someone with a mental disorder?
 

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NiGHTSJOD said:
erttheking said:
inu-kun said:
So if I get it right, The whole contreversy is about a shitty person which is clearly in fault but gets treated as a victim (and generally far better than anyone else doing the exact same thing) solely because he is part of a minority group?
. No. It's because it's been established she has mental problems and needs help.
I am merely an observer to this ongoing story but inu-kun's assessment seems to be the most accurate based on what I have seen and read. Has this Mauer person been formally and professionally diagnosed as someone with a mental disorder?
Depends: most of the people calling Mauer "he" consider trans folks to be mentally ill. (Which is ridiculous, so I wonder why that mistake keeps being made)

Past that, she's issuing DMCAs against videos using her music in an attempt to get people mad at the developers of said games instead of her. She might not be mentally ill, but she still isn't being rational. I mean, she's still getting death threats, she doesn't have anybody on her side in this...it's just that most people are befuddled instead of angry, because it doesn't make sense the way, say, the Fine Bros copyrighting "reaction videos" did.

I mean, her plan was apparently:
1) DMCA videos of games I did the music for
2) If the makers of those videos want them back, have them say bad things about the devs
3) ?????????
4) People will take my side.
 

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NiGHTSJOD said:
erttheking said:
inu-kun said:
So if I get it right,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1dmsHP2HEo The whole contreversy is about a shitty person which is clearly in fault but gets treated as a victim (and generally far better than anyone else doing the exact same thing) solely because he is part of a minority group?
. No. It's because it's been established she has mental problems and needs help.
I am merely an observer to this ongoing story but inu-kun's assessment seems to be the most accurate based on what I have seen and read. Has this Mauer person been formally and professionally diagnosed as someone with a mental disorder?
Her family is trying to get her medical attention and help, so that seems like a pretty big indicator that she does. So I'm not feeling inu-kun's attempts to just make this about a minority thing.


inu-kun said:
See above. I mean, you may want to get the full story before you go off making accusations.

Also it kind of matters because of all the transphobic assholes who come out of the wood work every time a trans person picks their nose in public.
 

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inu-kun said:
So if I get it right, The whole contreversy is about a shitty person which is clearly in fault but gets treated as a victim (and generally far better than anyone else doing the exact same thing) solely because he is part of a minority group?
Wait, WHO is treating her like a victim and "far better than anyone else doing the exact same thing"?

From what I've seen, Mauer is getting the crap she rightly has coming.
 

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What grinds my gears is that there's plenty people like her who did hurtful things (sometimes not even that, just expressing their opinion) get just as much bile and hate and no one protects them nearly as much. Did Jim make a special video of Digital Homicide? Is there in every meltdown story thread other people claiming "that the guy must be suffering mentally"? I mean why is there even people mentioning the person being transgender here despite not mattering at all in this thread? Why when Dreiko mistakes and calls her a dude people react as if he just murdered a person despite not mattering at all to the acts?
Huge difference between Alex Mauer and Digital Homicide though.

The Romaine brothers are just inept con-men and their dickishness, while lacking in sound judgement, makes sense from a certain POV. Jim was critical of their game, they escalated to attacking him personally, tried to take down his videos, then calling him out (resulting in one of the most unintentionally hilarious podcasts ever). Also they tried to sue 100+ Steam users & Jim personally

Their behaviour was idiotic and shortsighted but it still formed a semi-logical chain that an outside observer could comprehend. They targeted people whom they really believe infringed on their IP by doing letsplays of it. They wanted people who exposed their games as shit to stop doing that so they could continue to ply their shovelware.

Mauer's actions, OTOH, do not. She targeted people, initially not out of perceived unfair treatment from the youtubers themselves, but because she truly believed that she could use them to build a digital army to take on a dev that might or might not owe her money. AND she thought that those people would somehow be okay with her threatening their livelihoods or be cowed into submission. She then seemed to even abandon that pretext, assume the world was out to get her and just continue to go after people just because. It all just shows a disconnect from reality that the other situation doesn't...... as much.
 

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Smithnikov said:
inu-kun said:
So if I get it right, The whole contreversy is about a shitty person which is clearly in fault but gets treated as a victim (and generally far better than anyone else doing the exact same thing) solely because he is part of a minority group?
Wait, WHO is treating her like a victim and "far better than anyone else doing the exact same thing"?

From what I've seen, Mauer is getting the crap she rightly has coming.
Destructoid for one, being the only "major" gaming site to cover this at all. This was the article: http://archive.is/4thRG

Since then, things have... evolved, and Jonathan Holmes has been forced to issue some updates: http://archive.is/oIJ8O

Also, the article was moved from the main site to his blog by the EiC.
 

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Not really, as long as it doesn't come from an actual person who can diagnose her with mental troubles it's pure conjecture that people took as face value because it flips everything to the nice framework of "victimhood".

Really, this story emphasizes "No bad tactics, only bad targets". Nobody gives a shit about death threats and bile against assholes unless it distrupts the political narrative.
So basically you're saying her family is lying about her needing help. And no it doesn't. The damn video I linked is about a guy who wants her to get help but still take responsibility for her actions.

No it doesn't. I mean it really doesn't, you're working off of unfounded pretenses to support your own political narrative.
 

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Destructoid for one, being the only "major" gaming site to cover this at all. This was the article: http://archive.is/4thRG

Since then, things have... evolved, and Jonathan Holmes has been forced to issue some updates: http://archive.is/oIJ8O

Also, the article was moved from the main site to his blog by the EiC.
Well shit.

Emphasizes why I'm not a Destructoid fan and probably never will be now. anyone else?
 

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erttheking said:
inu-kun said:
erttheking said:
Not really, as long as it doesn't come from an actual person who can diagnose her with mental troubles it's pure conjecture that people took as face value because it flips everything to the nice framework of "victimhood".

Really, this story emphasizes "No bad tactics, only bad targets". Nobody gives a shit about death threats and bile against assholes unless it distrupts the political narrative.
So basically you're saying her family is lying about her needing help. And no it doesn't. The damn video I linked is about a guy who wants her to get help but still take responsibility for her actions.

No it doesn't. I mean it really doesn't, you're working off of unfounded pretenses to support your own political narrative.
Somehow, I believe your reaction might be different if it turned out someone on the opposite side (say, Milo Yianoppolis) had/has mental issues.
 

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Honestly, the first rule of business is you should never work with somebody you don't trust.

I don't see how anyone could trust a person who's clearly insane. So, ultimately, I'm not really surprised when said insane person acts insane.

Hopefully it all gets resolved soon enough, and said insane person is put somewhere where they can't send death threats and abuse people.

As usual, "Games journalism" is being completely terrible about the whole affair, but, I mean, who even respects the idea of a "Games Journalist" any more at this point?