The Band(s) That Let You Down The Most

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pillota

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Dommyboy post=18.72834.774574 said:
Pantera. They had their glory days, now they moved to heavy death metal, grindcore and screamo. The Pantera band I knew and love is long gone... or is it?
I am sorry to disappoint you but Pantera NEVER played death metal-they started as a glam metal band.Then after Phil Anselmo joined they changed their style into groove metal with thrash elements.After Dimebag Darell's death(their magnificent guitar player;RIP dude)Pantera disbanded.Phil Anselmo has many projects,including Down,Viking Crown,Superjoint Ritual and many more.Vinnie Paul(the drummer and Dimebag's brother)plays in Hellyeah.
 

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AFI. When I heard Miss Murder I wanted to throw my TV out the window. It sounded like a combination of Fall Out Boy and Britney Spears, nothing like their old music.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for growing up and experimenting, but selling your soul to an audience that will forget you in 2 weeks, instead of being true to the people who have followed you to the beginning is heartbreaking.
 

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AFI was mediocre from the beginning, and Sing the Sorrow was horribly emo and cliché...
 

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When Our Lady Peace released Gravity, I was REALLY disappointed with how mainstream it sounded.
 

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Trivium- The crusade. Was a good album, but Acendancy kicked its ass hard. Crusade lacked the combination of brutality and technical prowess that Acendancy had, and just had the technicality. The sound of it was very mainstream, but als a good album non the less.

Metallica - St Anger. Nothing to say here. Leave it to rot and appreciate the Kill em all - black album period. The new album is a sucess too.

Also, I will have no ill word said in regards to Sepultura - Roots. Sure Chaos AD was amazing, but I much preferred Roots.
 

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Trivium, Slupknot, Bullet For My Valentine and Metallica for me.

Ascendancy, Volume 3 and The Poison were absolutely cracking albums and all the sequels to those were piss poor by comparison.

And just St. Anger for Metallica. Need I say more.
 

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I'll give you cliche but I don't agree on the emo thing.
Sing the Sorrow is one compared to all the rest.



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I never understood the appeal to Bullet for my Valentine. I always had to look up the lyrics to their songs because their voices were so screechy and then I just gave up.
 

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Breaking Benjamins Phobia CD just didn't appeal to me after the glory that was saturate and we are not alone here.
Linkin park I understand changing your music but don't try to be political and all that(also watch the what i've done music vid and he reminds me of bono.
 

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chomesuke post=18.72834.774728 said:
Linkin park: no rap, please!
LP always had rap in their music o_O

Anyway, I'd have to go with these:

Linkin Park - Minutes To Midnight isn't bad, I like most of it, but it's not them. It doesn't fit them, and it was disappointing to me considering I'm a huge fan of them and had been waiting roughly four years for something new from them. Also, Mike shot not sing...ever.

Blink 182 - One of my personal favorite bands, their music was good all the way to the end. But they broke up over some stupid shit involving Tom being a major douche and that was upsetting.

Angels & Airwaves - I was actually excited when I found out there was a new band with Tom from Blink and one of the guys from The Offspring (Another favorite band of mine). I expected a much more punk/alternative sound...what I got was a bunch of sad electronic sounding music with five minute intros because Tom wants to feel like an artist.

Story of The Year - Their first album (Page Avenue) was awesome, everything after that (In The Wake of Determination and The Black Swan) has been absolute shit.

AFI - Everything before Sing The Sorrow (By that I mean before they were emo, specifically when they were on their old record label) was really good. I like one song on Sing The Sorrow (Girls Not Gray) and one song on December Underground (The Interview) everything else is awful. Miss Murder made me want to gag.

Green Day - I don't need to say much here. They were great when they were talking about smoking weed and insomnia. There's nothing worse than a punk band that goes political.
 

motokemu

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sneakypenguin post=18.72834.775202 said:
but don't try to be political and all that
It's their music; an expression of what they think. Why wouldn't they want to be political?
 

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ianuam post=18.72834.774582 said:
Nightwish after Tarja, well you just have to listen to their new stuff.
I actually really like some of their new stuff, for example I looove the song The Escapist (heheh). But really they aren't worse just different.
 

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I think there is good political-themed music, but all the recent stuff seems to be terrible. I mean Rage against the Machine were awesome because their criticism had a bit of depth to it, but you look at bands like Green Day and Linkin Park and their message seems to consist of:
"we hate America! - George Bush is an idiot! - Everyone's just in it for the oil!"
and then run out of ideas and cut into the chorus.
 

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System of a Down: mesmerise and hypnotise are their worst albums. and they came right after their best, toxisity, so my expectations were high

The Human Abstract: their debut album blew my mind, then their guitarist left. they went from tech metalcore to scene metal. disappointed 100%

Pantera, Alice in Chains, and Acid Bath: someone died and the band disbanded. depression on two levels
 

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Whiskyjakk post=18.72834.775235 said:
I think there is good political-themed music, but all the recent stuff seems to be terrible. I mean Rage against the Machine were awesome because their criticism had a bit of depth to it, but you look at bands like Green Day and Linkin Park and their message seems to consist of:
"we hate America! - George Bush is an idiot! - Everyone's just in it for the oil!"
and then run out of ideas and cut into the chorus.
I agree with you. Rage was a great political band, but they actually understood what they were talking about and they started out as being political. Bands like Linkin Park and Green Day (More specifically Green Day) need to stick to what they know and what they do best. And that ain't politics.
 

motokemu

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When you put it that way, yeah you have a point. Linkin Park did come a little too late and sounds a lot like Green Day in that aspect. Most bands don't really have more to say than "I hate America". Reality: America is what has made you famous and America is what bought your billion dollar home and 5 cars. If you want to make a statement that really means something I would like to see you living in an average home, have an average car and helping out people less fortunate than yourself.
Then again Rage is out protesting while LP and GD are sitting in their comfy sofas watching the protest on TV
 

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Jobz post=18.72834.775206 said:
Green Day - I don't need to say much here. They were great when they were talking about smoking weed and insomnia. There's nothing worse than a punk band that goes political.
If you don't like a punk band for being political, punk's not for you ;)
 

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Bocaj2000 post=18.72834.775237 said:
System of a Down: mesmerise and hypnotise are their worst albums. and they came right after their best, toxisity, so my expectations were high
I am sure that if you give these two albums a second chance,you'll get to like them.When i was 14-15 i thought they sucked,but with every listening i found some trully nice tracks like Soldier side,Holly Mountains,Radio/Video,Cigaro...you get my point ;)
 

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Permit my chronic snobbery to surface once again when I mention Muse at this point.

Now, don't get me wrong, I really like Muse. Origin of Symmetry is (though most of the band's fanbase is loath to admit it) one of the best prog albums of all time. I admire that they are trying to breathe life into an old, stuffy genre that wasn't going anywhere except its own arse.

But it wasn't prog in the common sense of the word - i.e, singer Matt Bellamy has yet to write a half-hour piccolo-fest about a wizard in a language he made up himself - because it has the blues of "normal" rock still present, which was what the original prog bands of the '70's tried to remove from their music. This is why Absolution, the third album if you don't count live-album-and-B-side-collection Hullaballoo, was so bloody brilliant. It had some big stompy tunes amidst all the weird guitarwork that sets them apart. I defy anyone not to headbang to Stockholm Syndrome and Hysteria.

Which is sort of why their latest opus, Black Holes And Revelations, was, whilst not being a total disappointment, definitely felt a bit below-par.

Take A Bow, the album opener, seemed to be an exercise in weird bleepy noises coming from Matt's guitar and synths. Think Late Of The Pier's debut album compressed into about three minutes. And then through that album away because it is crap.

Starlight was a slightly stiff piano ballad in desperate need of a certain je ne sais quoi, something to set it apart from the legions of other piano ballads cluttering the market. Yes, I'm looking at you, Keane, with your lack of guitars and your ivory keyboards and your tweeds.

Supermasive Black Hole, City Of Delusion and closer Knights Of Cydonia all come under the same heading - lovably strange. SMBH shone, a beacon of dance-pop thunder amidst the dross of that particular genre. COD had a swagger to it that gives credit to the somewhat unsubtle lyrics, like a rock version of Old Labour (the Labour that was actually left of centre). KOC was just epic, custom built for stadiums around the globe, knocking Stockholm Syndrome of the spot of traditional finale. It felt a lot shorter than its six minute length.

Assassin showcased Dom Howard's drumming talent, and Exo-Politics, Map Of The Problematique and Invincible saunter through almost lacksadaisically, despite the heavier guitarwork and basslines. The latter trio seem almost to be extensions of the same song, or at least the same idea - giving a touch more credence to the "ZOMFG MUZE IZ LIEK SOOOO PR0G THEY MUST BEE CRAPPY COS THEYRE GEENSIS!!!1!" response from the uninitiated. Or idiots.

However, Soldier's Poem and Hoodoo (the latter less so) let the album down somewhat, highlighting Matt's weakness as a songwriter - really slow stuff. Shorn of the "traditional" guitar blitz and frenetic bass, Hoodoo seems slightly scared of itself, and suffers. But fear not, as it comes back to Muse's trademark pomp for the latter half. But Soldier's Poem seemed like half-thought-out filler material, and clocking in at about one and a half minutes it probably was.

So not as good as their earlier work, but not nearly the absolute cockslap it could have been - and for an example of new-album cock-up syndrome, look no further than Editors, whose second album was really quite inferior to debut The Back Room.
 

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Linkin Park
What the f happened? They were awesome (even with the rap; Shinoda is one of the reasons i liked that band) but then Mike Shinoda left, for some reason (Fort Minor)...then things went down hill...alot...so far infact, they hit the other side of reality. I was into all the hype and excitment with the news of them "reforming" and was counting down the days till the album...I'd have rather had my groin repeatedly stamped on by an angry hobo (who I would have rather given the money).