Slight clarification, warnings shouldn't remove any badges. They are essentially a way of sending a moderator private message that saves a note on the user's profile as well.Lord Krunk said:Firstly, I will explain the lowest form of moderator wrath:
[HEADING=2]Warnings: Tier 4[/HEADING]
Warnings are not a form of Moderator Wrath, as such, but a warning that is placed on your user record for further reference, should you break said rule you were warned about again. This can happen on the thread in which you have posted on, or via PM - be advised that these are generally given if the crime was not intentional, or merely an obvious mistake (in judgement or otherwise) made by the user.
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Please note that once you receive any form of moderator wrath, then these badges will be unavailable to you. Harsh, but fair.
Also note that having a thread of yours locked does not result in your inability to receive the badges.
Duly noted. I'll have it fixed up next chance I get.Kross said:Slight clarification, warnings shouldn't remove any badges. They are essentially a way of sending a moderator private message that saves a note on the user's profile as well.Lord Krunk said:Firstly, I will explain the lowest form of moderator wrath:
[HEADING=2]Warnings: Tier 4[/HEADING]
Warnings are not a form of Moderator Wrath, as such, but a warning that is placed on your user record for further reference, should you break said rule you were warned about again. This can happen on the thread in which you have posted on, or via PM - be advised that these are generally given if the crime was not intentional, or merely an obvious mistake (in judgement or otherwise) made by the user.
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Please note that once you receive any form of moderator wrath, then these badges will be unavailable to you. Harsh, but fair.
Also note that having a thread of yours locked does not result in your inability to receive the badges.
So you feel the rules are unfair? Come now lets discuss exactly what you mean by "valid opinion". I'm oh so eager to hear why these rules are unfair.beddo said:I don't agree with this. Especially when people are subject to an infraction when stating a valid opinion that just happens to disagree with the arguably arbitrary views of others.
You've possibly already broken these rules by 'trolling' or 'flaming' me.Sleekgiant said:So you feel the rules are unfair? Come now lets discuss exactly what you mean by "valid opinion". I'm oh so eager to hear why these rules are unfair.beddo said:I don't agree with this. Especially when people are subject to an infraction when stating a valid opinion that just happens to disagree with the arguably arbitrary views of others.
Wow, you post a lot considering you've not been on here long.Sleekgiant said:So you feel the rules are unfair? Come now lets discuss exactly what you mean by "valid opinion". I'm oh so eager to hear why these rules are unfair.beddo said:I don't agree with this. Especially when people are subject to an infraction when stating a valid opinion that just happens to disagree with the arguably arbitrary views of others.
Usually I'd give some insightful comments to show how wrong you are, but since you think I am flaming you I'll just leave you to make mistakes.beddo said:You've possibly already broken these rules by 'trolling' or 'flaming' me.
That seems like an easy get out to me. You can't argue that you know better yet won't say why because you cannot validate that opinion to others.Sleekgiant said:Usually I'd give some insightful comments to show how wrong you are, but since you think I am flaming you I'll just leave you to make mistakes.beddo said:You've possibly already broken these rules by 'trolling' or 'flaming' me.
Huh. Isn't that why I created this thread in the first place?beddo said:When I say a 'valid opinion' I mean an opinion that a person could reasonably hold without having the sole purpose of offending others or merely being argumentative. For example, I could have an opinion that the BNP are racist, which I do, however, that group could find my comment offensive and it would then be against the rules.
If I justifiably believe a group behaves in an immoral, unethical or objectionable way, these rules stop me from voicing that opinion because they allow punitive measures to be taken on the basis of 'offence' which is entirely subjective.
Quite simply I believe the rules are too vague and allow moderators to treat a commenter unfairly if they disagree with their opinion and hide it under the 'it's offensive or inappropriate' rule. I would like to see much clearer and defined rules and a way of redressing the unbalanced power of moderators and administrators by having greater transparency and a more impartial system to deal with infractions that are contested by the user.
Perhaps but recent events have shown me that this is exactly what goes on.Lord Krunk said:Huh. Isn't that why I created this thread in the first place?beddo said:When I say a 'valid opinion' I mean an opinion that a person could reasonably hold without having the sole purpose of offending others or merely being argumentative. For example, I could have an opinion that the BNP are racist, which I do, however, that group could find my comment offensive and it would then be against the rules.
If I justifiably believe a group behaves in an immoral, unethical or objectionable way, these rules stop me from voicing that opinion because they allow punitive measures to be taken on the basis of 'offence' which is entirely subjective.
Quite simply I believe the rules are too vague and allow moderators to treat a commenter unfairly if they disagree with their opinion and hide it under the 'it's offensive or inappropriate' rule. I would like to see much clearer and defined rules and a way of redressing the unbalanced power of moderators and administrators by having greater transparency and a more impartial system to deal with infractions that are contested by the user.
While these days I would have worded it differently, I covered it in greater depth on page 2 as well. [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/jump/18.112832.2028045]