The best elder scrolls game

[ToastiestZombie]

Morrowind really, it's from a time when EVERY RPG was slow and boring. I played a few minutes of Morrowind, I purchased a long sword from a shop then very slowly made my way to where I thought I was supposed to go. Just so happens there's random high level monsters there, and even the low level ones got me because of all the crappy dice rolling in the background. I'm sure the story is of Shakespearian quality, but the actual GAME part of Morrowind is terrible to me, it's just not fun at all and instead focuses on making a highly technical luck game. I play video games to experience new worlds, meet new characters and fight in awesome ways, Morrowind only does on of those for me (new worlds). Yet, if someone somewhere made Morrowind in the Skyrim engine, without all the technical dice rolling bullshit combat, I'm sure I would love it to death. So as you may of guessed, my vote goes for Skyrim.

 

[TaintedSaint]

morrowind by far, No pansy ass hand holding when questing you had to use your brain to figure out where to go. The world was so.. Alien way more interesting to explore compaired to Oblivion and Skyrim (I still love oblivion and skyrim btw)

 

[silent-treatment]

I've played the newest three, so out of those three, I have probably spent the most amount of time on Morrowind, just because of how huge it is, but I went back and tried to play it a little while ago (after playing Skyrim)played it for like 30 minutes and gave up. The combat is very unresponsive, and getting a strike to land in the earlier levels is like pulling teeth. Back in the day I had nothing else to compare it to so I just stuck with it, but I have now been spoiled by SR so...

Though all that though I still wont say Skyrim because the world seemed much smaller then Morrowind. It might just be because of the lack of fast travel (which ruined Oblivion for me along with the dumb number of Gates you have to clear in that game) and the trickiness of Slit Strider system (which doesn't connect every city together like the wagon seems to in Skyrim (I never use it) so you have to either get directions, or trial and error that shit).

Which this reminds me of another thing about Morrowind that was better. No compass heading telling you exactly where you need to go. It was better back in the day when the game would start up, you get off the boat and the game gives you vague instructions on what to do and says "have fun" and leaves you alone. I mean maybe they shouldn't repeat some of what they did. Like I remember in the Main Quest in Morrowind there is a mission during the Tribe section of the game where you need to go find a temple to get some bow and the instructions to get there are literally "go to the shore, head east until you find a rock (one of many) then head due south until you find the temple." It did't matter how many times I replayed that fucking game I ALWAYS had to seek outside maps to find that damn place.

Basically as a functional game, I would say Skyrim is the better game, but Morrowind is the better experience. There is a story that is actually important, the factions are awesome (MORANG TONG *****), and the game actually expects something out of you. But the dang game is unplayable now . If Bethesda were to re release Morrowind, experience as is, and updated the combat system to Skyrim's (seriously do not touch ANYTHING other than the combat system...and graphics if you have time but that isn't as important) then I would buy. Twice.

Seriously.

DO IT BETHESDA DO IT!!!!!!!

captch: that's right

damn straight

 

[The_Echo]

I haven't played Arena or Daggerfall. I would like to, but I haven't managed to get them to run...

I'm going to have to say Skyrim is the best overall. I absolutely hated, hated the way combat worked in Morrowind. I'm not 100% sure how it worked, but all I know is that I couldn't get past a team of two rats because I could, despite being centimeters away, almost never land a hit. This was in the first city; some sidequest for a woman who couldn't get into her attic I think. Suffice to say, I ragequit. Maybe I should just go back to it later.

Frankly, the best thing Oblivion had going for it was the Dark Brotherhood. (Oddly enough, that same guild is the biggest complaint I've found so far in Skyrim.) Everything was pretty frackin' ugly in Oblivion, voice acting sucked, yada yada yada, all the usual complaints.

So yes. The best Elder Scrolls, as far as I know, is Skyrim.

 

[Snotnarok]

Morrowind for sheer diversity of race (by that I mean races hated/liked eachother and had their own feel to them) and landscapes for sure.

Skyrim for just being 10x more solid. The game has a lot going for it art wise and gameplay wise.

Oblivion doesn't qualify because of ...many reasons, I'd say bland art design, there was maybe 3 different landscapes, 4 voice mediocre voice actors and Patrick Stewart, animations just really off it just felt like a beta for a much better game.

 

[someonehairy-ish]

I liked Morrowind but I didn't play it much, and when I did play it the combat felt barely functional. Oblivion was good, I got a hundred or so hours out of it but it felt too much like generic fantasy. Skyrim was a little more unique, had pretty good combat, looks gorgeous, has better levelling systems and monster scaling, has stuff like decapitations and slow time with the bow and arrow...
Yeah it has to be Skyrim for me.

 

[Bvenged]

I'm gonna' be a douche and say:

Ni!

I can't give an true answer as I missed out on Morrowind and Daggerfall, and played Arena 10 year too late; so my judgement of them is clouded by the sands of time (and technological advancement).

But then again I have played Oblivion and Skyrim within the right time-frame, so of them two (relative to the time they came out) I would say Skyrim, though the mods made Oblivion PC better for me than Skyrim Console, which has no mods.

Best Bethesda game? Fallout 3.

If I could rewind the clocks I'm sure I would say Morrowind, it is very well designed and built. certainly more RPG-ish than the last two TES games, not that they aren't good western RPG's (they are some of my favourites).

 

[Jynthor]

Best Elder Scrolls RPG: Morrowind
Best Elder Scrolls Action game: Skyrim

you hadn't played Daggerfall, have you?


Honestly, hasn't aged too well, but if you are a fan of old school no apologies RPG's, then its a great game.

It is also free.

Only problem though, learn to love fast traveling in the later games, because it can take the better part of two real life weeks to travel across the Dagger Fall game map with NO FAST TRAVEL.

Dont get me started on how almost everything is trying to kill you either.

[sub] or the fucking Rats in the starting area, seriously, fuck those rats.[/sub]

Yeah my Daggerfall experience wasn't that great.
I joined the Mages Guild once I got out of the starter dungeon and had to go to a dungeon for a quest. Obviously I got lost because; Randomized dungeons. Then I thought to myself: "Do I really want to go through this for every single quest in the game?" My answer was no.

 

[accipitre]

I want to say Morrowind. But I just went back and replayed it for an hour or two, and damn... the mechanics really were just terrible. I think I'd say Morrowind anyways, but I've got to say: Morrowind with Skyrim-quality graphics and fluidness, combined with Morrowind-quality story, setting, style, and the Morrowind stats system would be just about the best RPG you could make.

 

[Mariakko]

Morrowind is greatest, the story and quests were so much fun compared to Skyrim. Oblivion is second. I want to play Daggerfall but every time I do it feels awkward to use. I'm sure If I gave it time I'd like it too.

 

[Link55]

Morrowind is greatest, the story and quests were so much fun compared to Skyrim. Oblivion is second. I want to play Daggerfall but every time I do it feels awkward to use. I'm sure If I gave it time I'd like it too.

I have played Daggerfall and it's fun no doubt but haw could it make you feel ackward.

 

[WFox]

Best Elder Scrolls RPG: Morrowind
Best Elder Scrolls Action game: Skyrim

Pretty much this. Morrowind had an awesome story and was just great from a narrative perspective. I got immersed in the history of Morrowind and the Neravarine.

Skyrim is absolutely beautiful, and has better magic and combat, it's a lot of fun but doesn't feel as deep in the narrative.

Morrowind re-done in Skyrim's engine? Oh yeah that would be awesome as hell... after a no-cliffracer patch/mod. Hell they might not be so annoying in Skyrim's engine.

Actually Cliffracers in Skyrim would be awesome. They're Dragons' natural foe- and drove them out of Morrowind. How sweet would it be to see a flock of those bastards punishing a dragon, instead of harrying your character every 5 minutes?


OT: I started the series with Morrowind. It was the first RPG I'd ever played and I've been playing them ever since. Overall, I probably got the most enjoyment out of Morrowind, though I am not blinded by nostalgia- the combat in Skyrim blows Morrowind out of the water. That being said, Morrowind was a much more unique world and story than either Oblivion or Skyrim. The Shivering Isles expansion proved that Bethesda is still capable of creating settings other than the bland medieval European-esque stuff they had going on in Oblivion, but then they stepped back with Skyrim (beautiful, sure- but the still bland, or at least unoriginal).

My hope is that Elder Scrolls VI will move on to one of the more exotic provinces, and not one where they can just go "It's like Vikings, but with real Dragons!"

 

[Chunga the Great]

Well considering that I can't get into Morrowind due to the laughably terrible animations, the fact that Oblivion had only 7 voice actors, and Skyrims mediocre story, I'd say Skyrim. The Steam Workshop integration makes mod so ridiculously easy to install that the other games, even if they do also have great mods, just can't compare.

(Those are the only 3 I've played so....)

 

[Gatx]

My first was Morrowind but I never finished any of the quest lines for that. While I enjoy many of the new features in Skyrim (like kill animations that make assassin characters much more satisfying to play), the dreary landscape (in my opinion), and the fact that all of my shirts are attached to my pants (yes, I'm still miffed about that) make me go with Oblivion.

 

[Darkmantle]

Skyrim, no contest.

I HATED Morrowind.

I know how you feel buddy. I honestly don't know how people liked that game.

must be a lot of masochists into rpgs.

 

[Gottesstrafe]

Hard to decide. Daggerfall had the biggest map, Morrowind was the best RPG, and Skyrim had the best gameplay.

Morrowind was the most immersive though. The locations were exotic and unique, the characters memorable, and the political factions complex and engrossing enough to warrant multiple play throughs. Unlike it's later iterations, stats actually accounted for something. You couldn't be a straight up warrior and mystifyingly Head of the Mages guild, you had to actually work at it. Equipment was more varied too. You could equip clothing, armor, and cloaks and mix and match between them. Whereas Oblivion and Skyrim decided to make it one or the other and fused parts of them together, in Morrowind you could have a full set of armor and a black cloak on to give yourself a ring wraith look if you so desired. Limiting fast travel also made the world appear bigger, and encourage exploration and strategic packing.

That being said, the combat was boring and was more reminiscent of it's D&D origins. For all the complaints I've heard about the combat in Oblivion and Skyrim, I have to say it's much better than their predecessors where you'd essentially stand face to face whacking each other until one of you fell over dead. The fact that each of your actions was tied to a to-hit-roll made it more tedious. I find the newer fighting system to be more rewarding to proactive players who actually take the time to study the terrain they're fighting on and remember to block (especially since blocking used to be a passive ability), where actually hitting something is not tied to stats and enemies respond to the force behind your blows.

 

[el derpenburgo]

It's great to see I'm not completely weird; greetings fellow lovers of Oblivion! The game came out on my birthday, it was almost destiny that I should love it.

As for Skyrim, I could not stand playing for more than an hour at a time, and even then I never got past the first big town. I always assumed it was because I modded the crap out of Oblivion and thought of it not so much as a game but a creative medium, hence destroying my ability to appreciate the immersion of any Bethesda-designed engine forever. Same thing happened to Fallout 3. I knew how quests were stored, how items were distributed, how NPCs behaved, so it felt like I already played Skyrim and nothing could surprise me. Did anyone else feel like this?

*Apologies for potential threadjacking*

 

[poxyrom]

My favourite would have to be Oblivion. It was the game that really got me into gaming. I've played Morrowind and I see why people would think it's the best, but I never really got into it. I guess because there's no real action at the start.
I adored skyrim, but something was missing. It was a bit too dark for my liking. I liked the cartoony look that everything has in oblivion, and the landscapes are a lot nicer. Everything was so much more bright and vibrant.