Well, I think this whole thing is fairly reasonable. In short Marvel Comics didn't want a character from a competing company running around calling himself by their company name. When Marvel formed, I don't think they originally foresaw that possibility. I also wouldn't have put it past DC to have been interested in reviving that character in part BECAUSE of that fact.
I honestly don't think that battle is what makes comics wierd. What makes comics wierd in a business aspect is how the companies fight tooth and nail over garbage like this, like any other industry, but then also turn around and do all those crossovers and things like the Amalgam universe stunt, entirely for the fans... or at least they used to, to be honest with things moving into the Hollywood arena I'd be surprised if we see anything major on that level for a while.
To be honest, while "Captain Marvel" is a good piece of Nerd trivia, I think Superman himself has more wierd factoids like that built around him, which less people are aware of. Among other things, Superman himself is arguably ripped off from a science fiction novel called "Gladiator". Remember that the original Superman couldn't fly or anything, he just jumped really high:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gladiator_(novel)
While that was never acknowleged, you'll notice that Marvel has another recurring, but still fairly obscure alien character CALLED "Gladiator" who by and large exhibits all of Superman's powers (including flight as opposed to jumping). Marvel ALSO has an entire alternate universe team called "The Squadran Supreme" who were around long before the entire "Supreme Power" reboot where the characters are all equivilents to members of The Justice League. Indeed during I think "Earth/Universe/Paradise X" (an elseworlds type story series) they also go out of their way to call Hyperion "Earth's Superman" and he also more or less possesses Superman's catalog of powers. Where Gladiator's weakness is his towering ego, Hyperion is vulnerable to a rare radioactive isotope in a stereotypical "kryptonite" type fashion.
Nothing especially relevent, it's just that comic back and forths are legendary. Heck, they even made a huge joke out of the DC/Wildstorm character "Burnout" (from Gen13) and how he's a giant rip off of "The Human Torch". In this case though they eventually had a crossover where Gen 13 met "The Fantastic Four" and Burnout and The Torch went up against each other, with fairly predictable results if you know crossover conventions.
I agree that a lot could be said about Ms. Marvel, however she's one of those characters that I think has been so tainted by feminist politics with stupidity on all sides of the fence that I'd rather they just discontinue Carol Danvers all together. Sad, because she's a fine character, but she just brings enough annoying baggage to the table nowadays that I think it's time to pass the mantle permanantly, and has been for a long time. Look up "The Rape Of Ms. Marvel" at some point, or just some long-term character biographies. It's complicated, and you'll see what I mean. No matter what side of the political spectrum your on the whole situation pretty much defines stupidity.
But then again I'm also one of those people who has gained an inherant dislike of She-Hulk for differant reasons. Another interesting piece of Trivia is when the Avenger "Starfox" who is the Eternal/God "Eros" (god of male sexuality) is pretty much convicted of rape due to his being inherantly irresistable to women. Especially messed up when you find that there is generally less of a problem when women have some kind of power set based around that. In an attempt to be politically profound (Marvel likes to try and do that) they instead basically ruined several of their characters in ways that they just haven't been able to ever overcome in my mind. I mean having She-Hulk practice law in any capacity right now makes me think of where she originally came down there. "Well yes, you are god's gift to women, being well... pretty much a god. But by being too perfect and radiating too much super powered sex appeal you are effectively a rapist. The fact that you can'talways help it, and are pretty much a GOD doesn't change this". Uh-huh ooookaaay then.
Rambling, and well off the point, Bob just got me thinking. Everything else aside, he's good for that.
I honestly don't think that battle is what makes comics wierd. What makes comics wierd in a business aspect is how the companies fight tooth and nail over garbage like this, like any other industry, but then also turn around and do all those crossovers and things like the Amalgam universe stunt, entirely for the fans... or at least they used to, to be honest with things moving into the Hollywood arena I'd be surprised if we see anything major on that level for a while.
To be honest, while "Captain Marvel" is a good piece of Nerd trivia, I think Superman himself has more wierd factoids like that built around him, which less people are aware of. Among other things, Superman himself is arguably ripped off from a science fiction novel called "Gladiator". Remember that the original Superman couldn't fly or anything, he just jumped really high:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gladiator_(novel)
While that was never acknowleged, you'll notice that Marvel has another recurring, but still fairly obscure alien character CALLED "Gladiator" who by and large exhibits all of Superman's powers (including flight as opposed to jumping). Marvel ALSO has an entire alternate universe team called "The Squadran Supreme" who were around long before the entire "Supreme Power" reboot where the characters are all equivilents to members of The Justice League. Indeed during I think "Earth/Universe/Paradise X" (an elseworlds type story series) they also go out of their way to call Hyperion "Earth's Superman" and he also more or less possesses Superman's catalog of powers. Where Gladiator's weakness is his towering ego, Hyperion is vulnerable to a rare radioactive isotope in a stereotypical "kryptonite" type fashion.
Nothing especially relevent, it's just that comic back and forths are legendary. Heck, they even made a huge joke out of the DC/Wildstorm character "Burnout" (from Gen13) and how he's a giant rip off of "The Human Torch". In this case though they eventually had a crossover where Gen 13 met "The Fantastic Four" and Burnout and The Torch went up against each other, with fairly predictable results if you know crossover conventions.
I agree that a lot could be said about Ms. Marvel, however she's one of those characters that I think has been so tainted by feminist politics with stupidity on all sides of the fence that I'd rather they just discontinue Carol Danvers all together. Sad, because she's a fine character, but she just brings enough annoying baggage to the table nowadays that I think it's time to pass the mantle permanantly, and has been for a long time. Look up "The Rape Of Ms. Marvel" at some point, or just some long-term character biographies. It's complicated, and you'll see what I mean. No matter what side of the political spectrum your on the whole situation pretty much defines stupidity.
But then again I'm also one of those people who has gained an inherant dislike of She-Hulk for differant reasons. Another interesting piece of Trivia is when the Avenger "Starfox" who is the Eternal/God "Eros" (god of male sexuality) is pretty much convicted of rape due to his being inherantly irresistable to women. Especially messed up when you find that there is generally less of a problem when women have some kind of power set based around that. In an attempt to be politically profound (Marvel likes to try and do that) they instead basically ruined several of their characters in ways that they just haven't been able to ever overcome in my mind. I mean having She-Hulk practice law in any capacity right now makes me think of where she originally came down there. "Well yes, you are god's gift to women, being well... pretty much a god. But by being too perfect and radiating too much super powered sex appeal you are effectively a rapist. The fact that you can'talways help it, and are pretty much a GOD doesn't change this". Uh-huh ooookaaay then.
Rambling, and well off the point, Bob just got me thinking. Everything else aside, he's good for that.
