The Big Picture: Groan Saga

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Subject7

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The clone saga is actually responsible for me hating comic books. I was pretty young but even I knew crap when I saw it.
 

DoctorM

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Bob, thanks I love your Comics are Weird rants. It reminds me why I love comic characters, but hate comic books.
 

Jetsetneo

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Finally! Some lighthearted Bob! But yeah clone saga sucked, except I was a tween then and Ben Riley WAS SO KEWL! At least when he had the hoodie, but thats mostly because I was a kid and he was easier to draw than the actual Spider-man :p
 

head desk tricycle

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Why do I keep hearing this line that the comic had written itself into a corner with MJ? There's almost too many solutions, not the least of which is a simple break-up; their relationship was in constant jeopardy anyway, and it wouldn't be the first girl Spider-Man broke up with who was aware of his secret identity. And that's assuming that it's even a problem; even if Mary Jane had never existed (ha), Spider-Man would still have loved ones to protect by maintaining his cover. And even if you're just averse to Peter's monogamy, you can't deny that it's a natural extension of the premise, and that it really should work. In fact, I can think of at least one instance of it being imitated (ever seen Batman Beyond?).
 

PrinceofPersia

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Urameshi13 said:
The Clone Saga was the worst Spider-Man arc? Have you forgotten about One More Day, or did you just erase it from your mind like other Spidey fans have done?
I think he considers that just a continuation of what Marvel does in the Clone saga. Man am I ever glad I stopped reading both Marvel and DC. Give me manga and mangwha any day! At least with them if their bad I can laugh it up.
 

PrinceofPersia

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Dice Warwick said:
See, this is why I read Japanese Manga. Their is a beginning, a middle, and a end. (and no, I don't read DBZ) We get a good ass story, and we get to eventually move on.

American comic books needs to take a hint and start retiring their character so that they can move onto new ones. If they die, let them stay dead, and have a brand new character take their place, it can even be part of their organ story. Spider-man can retire, and later have him return as a mentor for a new hero.
OH MY GOD! I totally agree, that is why I stopped reading Marvel and DC in the 90's thanks to Viz Media and other copies for their translations. The funny thing is I ran across the superhero RPG Mutants and Masterminds that takes your idea to heart, and I thought that it would have been great if the American comic books industry would take that as their model.
 

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MovieBob said:
Groan Saga

MovieBob fills everyone in on the facts of Clonage/90's era Spiderman.

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The same happens in the 2010 era as well: Fall of the Hulks. Yugh. Seriously: Lyra should never have become mainstream, A-Bomb is ridiculous, Hiro-Kala should never have existed, and Red Hulk punching The Watcher and breaking Hulk's arm... don't get me started.