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shadowmagus

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This is the second week in a row you've baited the crowd. Your flame-shield must be made of something not of this world.
 

jonyboy13

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So Bob completly ignores the 800+ comments proving him being a troll who doesn't do even the basic research before posting videos? Lovely.

How could you call someone who's academy award nominated a great film maker based on that? I recall you saying that all nominations and winners are rigged.

"For a western developed?"... You just insist on trolling don't you?
Yes, Uncharted doesn't have a mind blowing story but what's the point of laughing at ALL western developed games?

This show went from a fun weekly time laughing at comics to trolling so he can has moar comentz.
 

jrcillian

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I don't get this "Nate Drake is a douchebag" thing that Bob is talking about. Witty, snappy dialogue suddenly turned him into some evil creature? Seeing some of Bob's reviews this just seems hypocritical and somewhat out of character. I also don't get why this story, one with a beginning, a middle, and an end, is suddenly so bad. Neither seem to make sense here, Bob.

To be fair, why is Nathan Fillion our only choice for Nate Drake again? Is our Firefly darling needing our love for a similar role?
 

Mooshman

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At least games are starting to attract bigger directors and actors than previous.

Yes there's no Nathan Fillion, yes Mark Wahlberg was terrible in the Max Payne movie...
Yes I don't understand why Joe Pechie and Robert Di Nero are in the movie to give it a mafia twist...
Yes I know the subject matter is about as close to the game as the Super Mario Movie was...
Yes the movie will be a huge let down to the fans...

The only game based movie I'm worried about is the inevitable soul destroying Bioshock Movie.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1230526/
 

Dr Snakeman

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darthotaku said:
I've seen alot of people bashing Moviebob about his "For a western developer" line, and I think it's funny that they bring up the same five games. Probably because those few games are the exception. Most games that I play for a good story aren't western made games because western games put more emphasisi on making a profit rather than making a touching story and gameplay.
Right, beacuse spiky-haired adolescents moping around for hours on end is totally good storytelling.

Sorry, pal, but even though Western games with good storylines are in the minority, there ain't much better in the other hemisphere.
 

Safaia

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Um, isn't the Uncharted series played out like a movie to begin with? Like, isn't that part of the entire point that it is a National Treasure knock off in game form? I haven't played much more than the demo, not my cup of tea, but from what others have told me you could strip out the interactivity and not much would change.

Don't know, just drawing an opinion from a demo and my friends.
 

twm1709

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Thing is most mainstream games are so much like movies these days that watching a movie about a mainstream game is the equivalent of watching someone else play that very game for 2 hours.
 

DTWolfwood

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o snap throwing cliffy-b's face on indiana jones as a douchebag, that is some burn XD

Be nice if the character's background was similar. Not something completely different is all. Nothing like slapping a videogame name on something that has little relevance to the games. i.e. Resident Evil.

love it or hate it, at the least the Jolie Croft movies kept Lara a british aristocrat with a thing for guns and bury treasure.

Prince of Persia was a good videogame adaptation :p persians with brit accents lolz
 

Dr Snakeman

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omegawyrm said:
OK, I don't actually think there's a consensus on Scott Pilgrim, I just wanted a good lead in.
Well, it's as close to consensus as you're gonna get. I mean, if you didn't like that movie, you should really just stop watching movies.
 

Zhukov

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Dr Snakeman said:
Zhukov said:
I'm not even gonna touch that. Because if I did it would just consist of me yelling, "Bioshock!" over and over.
And me screaming "Mass Effect! whenever you pause to take a breath.
Funny thing is, Bioshock and Mass Effect are both games he's praised in the past.

He's said they should make a Mass Effect movie. And if memory serves he once declared, quote, "...and I fucking loved Bioshock!"

So yeah. I dunno. Maybe he's just trolling for traffic. Given the previous topic, that wouldn't surprise me.
 

Flamma Man

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darthotaku said:
I've seen alot of people bashing Moviebob about his "For a western developer" line, and I think it's funny that they bring up the same five games. Probably because those few games are the exception. Most games that I play for a good story aren't western made games because western games put more emphasis on making a profit rather than making a touching story and gameplay.
*inhales*

System Shock 2, Bioshock, Half-Life 2, Portal, Mass Effect, Dragon Age, Baldur's Gate, Grim Fandango, Planescape: Torment, God Of War, Dues Ex, Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem,and many, many more.

Also, you're talking about a "touching story and gameplay" when you have Squall as your avatar?

Yeesh.

Both western and eastern developers have equally good and shitty writers, no other is better than the other. I'm really getting tired of this pointless argument.

We have Portal and Bioshock, while the east has Silent Hill 2 and Okami. Do we really need to have a contest of who's better?
 

Draconalis

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Mario had his movie chance... why is he in the center of that "Never had a chance" picture?
 

Hungry Donner

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In my opinion a good game movie needs to be part of the series rather than an attempt to recreate a particular game. It also needs to be a good movie in it's own right, most game movies are crap whether or not they're butchering another IP.

I think Escape From Butcher Bay is an example in the other direction. The game itself is good, the changes in pacing are well handled, the stealth segments are great, and the cut scenes managed to be over the top without falling flat. It's not a perfect game but I still found it to be a lot of fun. It also fits in to the series nicely, even better than the second movie I'd say given all of the fruity changes and inclusions it had.

There are some Star Wars games in the same boat - they're good because they gameplay itself is fun and they do justice to the series without trying to turn themselves into A New Hope: The Game. There are probably two dozen Star Wars games that feature the Battle of Hoth but most don't make you recreate it as Luke Skywalker. Good games let you control your character, recreating a movie takes this away.

I'm not surprised that the gaming industry figured out how to do a good movie game before the movie industry figured out how to do a good game movie. Hopefully in the near future someone will purpose a movie that ties together the events of two games, or better yet explores the setting and series without trying to manhandle the main characters of the games themselves. Most Star Wars games don't have you control the main characters, they give you new ones. A good game movie might have the important characters on screen but the movie's actually protagonist will be someone else.
 

mireko

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In what universe is Metal Gear Solid a good or even an interesting story? It's one of the worst movies I've ever seen, and I've seen Manos.

darthotaku said:
I've seen alot of people bashing Moviebob about his "For a western developer" line, and I think it's funny that they bring up the same five games. Probably because those few games are the exception. Most games that I play for a good story aren't western made games because western games put more emphasisi on making a profit rather than making a touching story and gameplay.
Yeah, no.

There is no East/West divide when it comes to the quality of storytelling. Eastern games tend to prefer a different narrative style, but that's pretty much it.

And really, I can't remember playing that many Japanese games with great stories in recent years outside of Atlus's games. I know I have a Tales of Vesperia avatar, but while that game has a good story, it's nowhere near the masterful writing of Persona 4 or Planescape: Torment.

You should consider the possibility that opinions may differ on what constitutes a good story.




Mooshman said:
At least games are starting to attract bigger directors and actors than previous.

Yes there's no Nathan Fillion, yes Mark Wahlberg was terrible in the Max Payne movie...
Yes I don't understand why Joe Pechie and Robert Di Nero are in the movie to give it a mafia twist...
Yes I know the subject matter is about as close to the game as the Super Mario Movie was...
Yes the movie will be a huge let down to the fans...

The only game based movie I'm worried about is the inevitable soul destroying Bioshock Movie.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1230526/
I'm really uncertain when it comes to Mark Wahlberg. On one hand, The Happening. On the other hand, The Fighter. On one hand, Max Payne. On the other hand, The Departed.

I wish he would pick a level of talent and stick to it.
 

Casual Shinji

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Dr Snakeman said:
omegawyrm said:
OK, I don't actually think there's a consensus on Scott Pilgrim, I just wanted a good lead in.
Well, it's as close to consensus as you're gonna get. I mean, if you didn't like that movie, you should really just stop watching movies.
*raises hand* Present!

That movie didn't really rock my socks off in any way. Damn good editing though.
 

Dectilon

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My only problem with the Uncharted thing is that Hollywood feels they need some recognizable name to staple onto every movie. I wouldn't have said no to a modern Indiana Jones movie, and I probably wouldn't say no to Russel's idea either. It's just the circumstances that annoy me.

I noticed that you specifically said 'western developed' games have horrible stories. Are you suggesting there's a larger percentage of japanese games that don't have terrible stories? Let's not confuse pure text mass with quality, or overblown stereotypes with emotional depth.

Unless that's not at all what you meant, in which case, never mind. :)
 

Jarhed

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The Uncharted games are fun and all that, but their writing is not good by anyone's standards let alone the standards of "Western" video games.