The Big Picture: PC Gaming Is Dead - Long Live PC Gaming!

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Exodus666

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Sorry Bob, but u are WRONG.

The biggest reason PC games are migrating to the consoles is piracy.
This is an issue that will cause less and less games to be made on the PC for now.

But u can pirate xbox and PS3 games as well, most ppl just dont know about it yet.

PC players tend to be more tech savvy, which is why the pirating trends has been prevailent among PC games first.

But its coming to consoles!


The less PC games u make the more insentive the pirates have to focus more and more on consoles, and techincally there is nothing that says consoles cant be pirated as much as PC.


SECONDLY.

I own an Ipad, ive had one about a week after release.
ITs great and I love it, but its NOT replacing my PC, it just doesnt have that function.
No, its not a matter of the Ipad requiering more horsepower its simply two different objectives that overlap less then one might think.


PC is going nowhere, though Laptops will be ofc be more popular.


Consoles however, requires a TELEVISON.

Being tied to a fast approaching archaic piece of technology is not a good thing for consoles, no matter how many gimmicks they want to throw in there.

Fact of the matter is there is only so long we will be willing to have two different screens for checking Facebook and playing video games, and the PC is designed for both, the consoles are not.


-Exo
 

duck-man

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Well, the question isn't Why would I need a PC? It's Why would I need anything But a PC
The advantages are endless (In my opinion :D, it's all customisable so it does anything. Anything.)
The disadvantage: it's immobile, Unless it's a laptop (which are at Least good for all non-gaming concerns), and I suppose it's less simple, so Perhaps it works to section things off as 'This is a pad sized computer that does everything but calls (or so I'm told)' 'This is a mobile phone that does everything but having a good input/output system' 'This is a console that is dedicated to games and general home entertainment'.
I dunno, seems inefficient and a waste of circuit boards.
I suppose that it creates smaller markets for developers to focus on. But that's always a pain for people who don't see why they can't pick and choose from everything with just One operating system.
P.S. not expecting anybody to read this, not with this number of comments, Still, Fun to write it down!
 

DestinyCall

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PC gaming isn't dead. As MovieBob said, consoles are BECOMING pcs. In a few more years, the differences between them will be immaterial. Gaming will becoming one! Long live gaming!
 

SirAxel

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It's not just Angry Birds developer, Rovio Mobile, that foresees dark times ahead for console gaming, Eat Sleep Play boss David Jaffe thinks that outlook is pretty bleak as well. Jaffe believes that we're coming to the end of console gaming, and that while there will be a PlayStation 4, there won't be a PlayStation 5.
Read the article: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/108498-David-Jaffe-Predicts-Next-Console-Generation-Will-Be-the-Last

anyway trololololo
 

Allan Foe

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Silly, silly old Bob. *smileyface*
"PC is dying! But we'll still be using laptops!
P.S. Also -- NO KEYBOARDS!"
I don't need to point out the contradiction in that, do I?

With a sentiment like that this video should have been named "ATX Desktop Is Dead -- Long Live Laptops!" You talk about about "The Big Picture", but you fail to see the little details my friend. It's really only about touch-pad vs mouse & keyboard, and no the latter are not replaceable wherever any kind of general productivity is concerned.

Still these videos are always mentally stimulating, keep up the good work!
 

newwiseman

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I disagree.

If only for modding communities 'PC' gaming will continue to thrive. People have been saying it been ding for years because game sales for PC aren't any where near the number of PC that are in the market, but this is a loaded statement as it counts every PC in the market as having gaming potential with new releases. If instead we total PC game sales against the number of high end graphics cards sold you'll see PC gaming is still going strong, even if fewer big name publishers are making games for them.

Studios like Majong (Minecraft) will always have a home on the PC and games for the PC will always be made, to think that will ever change is a little silly. The fact is tablets and netbooks for the price just don't have the battery life or power to play high end games on, and there will always be high end games.

I think the main reason that I disagree with the progression to cloud gaming is my problem with the cloud concept. You can't play when your network / power goes out, and you don't own your saves or your games, and I don't see the subscription based model working out in the long run for publishers. But who knows what will happen, regardless I'm already digging in my heels for the long run.
 

gussy1z

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if consoles are becomeing more like PCs.. what will be the point in oning a console if you have a PC?
 

Synonymous

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There's no way at this point I can add any useful insight that hasn't already been posted, so I'll just note that I was disappointed that the "call me a heretic" line wasn't illustrated by an image from Exorcist II, preferably of "I will spit a leopard" James Earl Jones.
 

gingerale

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Well to be exact nano-processors are already here. So maybe we'll be getting some casual outdoor augmented reality mmorpg's that require nothing but yourself and some sort of a headset and an input device. \o/

Heck, if they'd bother to solve the battery issues they could do that with N3DS alone.
 

Rabidkitten

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This isn't going to happen as fast as it should or we'd like to think it will. PCs are still in a business sense very necessary. The problem is, is that office, photoshop, visual studio, high end server software, and all the "work" stuff that is used to make this society run usually requires a certain work set up that demands the latest in computing tech. You still need that work station to get this crap done on, and sitting on your coach isn't working YET. It will, but not yet, and not for another 10-20 years I'd say. Businesses are starting to realize the value of people working from home, which will run down the number of office computers. So most computer jobs will be done from home in the future, and people will soon realize that these jobs can be done from the comfort of a bean bag chair which saves the company money. The tech isn't totally their yet, some of the more powerful applications can't run on something that can be anywhere in the house, but soon it will.

So you are correct, but it's not happening over night, and its not really going to fully see its dawn in this generation.

The real drain here is platform, we have lots of platforms running on all the same hardware. Its retarded. Seriously, can we just pick a universal OS for all systems, and just have each piece of made software run on everything. NOPE not going to happen, THANKS APPLE, MICROSOFT, SONY, NINTENDO, GOOGLE, and anyone else making platforms for screwing the pooch on this one!!
 

Ack-ack

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:O oh my! I didn't know PC's were dying. Oh well, i'll go play final fantasy X on my PC now, before it dies completely
 

Marik Bentusi

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PC gaming hasn't felt any different for me in all those years concerning "dead or alive". I notice more games with controls that make it obvious they're console ports, but I'm sure consoleros also have to deal with games that were originally done for the PC - and I mean you have to start SOMEWHERE, right?

So yeah, from my point of view I never understood those people saying PC gaming is dead. Not one bit.
 

templargunman

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Pc gaming is dead... except for rts games, everything else can be done as well if not better on a console, but console controllers suck balls at running rts games. Anyone play civ rev? I thought it was fun, but not a very good rts. Also, consoles need to find a way to be upgraded continuously, until then, games like shogun 2 and crysis 2 (it will look like shit on consoles compared to a fully upgraded pc) will never really be able to switch over.
 

Stavros Dimou

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First of all,PC gaming is not as expensive as some want to make it be.
To buy a new computer might be more expensive thatn buying a new console,but most of as have a computer that the only pieceg that is missing from it to play modern games with respectable frame rate is a graphics card.
But even so,if you consider how many money you save each time you buy a game or playing online or dowloading mods,you will find out that pc gaming might actually even be less expensive that console gaming.
Just think that every new pc game is anywhere from 20% to 70% cheaper than a new console game.
If you buy up to 10 games a year,you will end up saving somewhat between 100 to 500 euros/dollars a year.
If you add to that the money that you save each time you download a mod,which is like console's dlcs and the money you save from playing FREE online,you will find out that with all the money you save in a 2 years period you can buy a monster graphics card and keep money.

But even if all developers would decide to stop making any new games for pcs,pc gaming wouldn't die even then.
Because all console games will eventually end up running on pcs via emulators.
And even so,new exlcusive games will be created for pcs from the modding community that will make use of already existing editor softwares to create new and original games.
PC gaming will never die.
 

minimacker

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Well, I sort of can't afford an iPhone, mobile laptop and the Xbox 360 + Kinect. If I did, they would be obsolete fairly soon.

Of course, my computer would be obsolete soon enough too, but I can upgrade it through parts and not an entirely new product.
 

mr_rubino

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What shock. An interesting and hopeful look to the future, answered mostly by spoiled PC gamers complaining about the title, because they didn't watch the video.
 

ascorbius

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I for one will lament the loss of the freedoms to create that the PC brought as a platform in its current incarnation.

You can't develop coding skills on an XBox, Tablet or a Phone. You need a PC/Laptop and as the development tools for consoles are all locked away, no-one will have the spark to say "Hey, I can do that!".

As the Home PC is becoming less and less ubiquitous, the access to the tools used to create becomes more limited. This reduces opportunities to discover or expand upon programming skills - reducing the pool of software engineers available in the future.

The UK experienced a major boom in Software Engineers in the mid 80s because of the availability of cheap(ish) home computers like the ZX Spectrum, C64 and the BBC Micro, these enabled a generation to learn how to code. The current PC is an extension of that.

With the home PC replaced and consoles, tablets and cell phones fulfilling the roles it used to perform - access to development tools will only be available at colleges and universities.

It makes me sad. Currently, if you know you want to code, you get a PC.. but how does someone have that moment when they know they want to code?

This point may have been made before but we're already 28 pages into this.. so apologies to all.
 

walsfeo

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Internet Explorer, really Bob? You make the internet sad.


Seriously though, you missed a huge point here Bob. What is PC Gaming? You declare it dead without even saying what PC Gaming means, why it's considered essentially different than any other kind of electronic gaming.

PC gaming can't just be about the form factor of the PC can it? What else is special about PC gaming that makes it a unique game experience?

The big picture of PC gaming has more to do with freedom to mess around with your game, a dedicated hobbyist activity, as well as community and mods, than the form of the PC.


And yeah, enough about flame wars - or is mentioning them in the video just a way to defuse them before they even start?