The Big Picture: PC Gaming Is Dead - Long Live PC Gaming!

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"...the PC has in its favour that people don?t have to define themselves as gamers to buy/own one. When you buy a console, you are self-proclaiming yourself a gamer. On PC, it?s something that can happen by organic stealth..." Quote for this Rock Paper Shotgun article: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/03/21/windows-gaming-experience/
 

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Actually I'll break this down better:

The PC provides the most efficient input/output system of any device, its only drawback being the lack of mobility. Other objects provide that mobility, at the cost of functionality, input ability, and/or output quality. If people drop any of the aforementioned devices, it will not be the most functional. The PC is the most functional, most basic, most all-in-one of any device.

Perhaps mouse controls will evolve, targetting input will evolve.
Perhaps keyboard controls will evolve, text input will evolve.
Perhaps monitors will evolve, output will evolve.

The PC will still remain. People will not start buying more devices to do what one can accomplish.
 

Cheesysuitcase

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Right, a rant about how PC gaming will die based on un-educated economic guesses. PC gaming is not dead it is the hub for all Indie games and modding community and saying that PC games are not dead is contradicting yourself. PC gaming is mods, indie games, and mouse and key board. and don't think for a second that Natal or Play station move can ever rival the mouse. I've tried the WII and good luck playing a RTS or anything higher then 360p on that.
 

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Bob is right that PC gaming is going to die along with the PC, but I doubt this is going to happen this decade.

PC gaming has been declared dead for several years now, but AMD/ATI and Nvidia still pump out insanely powerful high-end graphics cards and the release schedule for PC looks damn good this year.
 

isandhlwahna

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I thought this was funny.

http://www.techtree.com/India/News/Console_Games_are_Dying_Angry_Birds_Developer/551-114775-585.html
 

beema

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I think you're right in some ways about why PC's as we traditionally know them are dying out, and therefore PC gaming along with them.

But other than that

sneh

I love my PC and my games on it and consoles will never hold a candle to it. I cannot f'ing stand thumbsticks or floaty wiimote controls. End of story. Plus 720p looks like complete SHIT compared to the resolution on my PC.

btw Bob, I guess your rant was limited strictly to personal home use? Well you are neglecting the entire business/commercial world. I'm highly doubtful PC's will disappear as quickly as you seem to indicate. Try doing something like data entry, graphic design, or heck even GAME DEVELOPMENT on a tablet or cell phone. Good luck with that. Every game is developed on a PC.
 

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Oh my god. This is hilarious. Look at all the but hurt PC Elitist who are so mad. Jesus. Seriously, I hope no one going to have a heart attack.

The worst part is that they one's that not attacking Bob, which is immature, is attacking consoles. It's like, Well, consoles fucking suck. And I'm left standing, so?...

Get over it guys, it's just his opinion. Go out in the sun and go for a walk, it'll be better when you come back trust me.
 

Mystyco

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I Wrote a nice forum post about why what this show was about but apparently the forum doesn't like me enough to let me post it.

PC Gaming won't be playing batman's parents in the next batman movie, let's keep it up to that.
 

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"This generation's game consoles [...] are PCs, just with severely limited operating systems"

So is he saying both consoles (which he says are gimped PCs) and PCs are dying?

How can you state that "PC gaming is dead" while claiming "PC games are not dead"? Isn't that quite contradictory?

It seems Bob simply made a bold statement with zero substance, simply to get more viewers. Sensationalism much?
 

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By his logic consoles wont be around either in the future, so whys the episode called "PC gaming is dead"? theirs some bad points and random criticism towards PC's for no real reason, 90% of witch could could have easily been said about consoles. I guess he just hates PC gamers (or more the stereotypical PC gamers he mentioned.) or was looking for more views/comments than usual.
 

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The latest thing in a long line of things that I've completely disagreed with Bob over. If I wanted cheap scare-mongering and ill-informed opinions I'd just read the Daily Mail. Farewell, Bob.
 

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Shycte said:
The worst part is that they one's that not attacking Bob, which is immature, is attacking consoles. It's like, Well, consoles fucking suck. And I'm left standing, so?...
Have you read this thread or are you just projecting because nobody is saying that, at all...all people are doing is proving Bob's comments incorrect; Bob's videos are known, when discussing gaming to be...lacking in critical thinking or analysis, but this rant is just laughable - I mean he has said some incredibly stupid things on the GameOverthinker [the Metroid : Other M episode again springs to mind] but this is just a whole new level of inaccuracy.
Of course this time the rant is about PC games and how crazed and delusional its fanbase is apparently, look as Bob re-defines words, claims its death and then posts a childish disclaimer - all whilst backing up his wild claims with a distinct lack of economic evidence.

His arguments are provably false; in fact the vast majority of this thread has been people dedicating themselves to prove just that - if you'd read even a couple of pages on this thread you'd have seen it, though of course you're to busy obsessing over the whole "PC elitists" angle.

Get over it guys, it's just his opinion. Go out in the sun and go for a walk, it'll be better when you come back trust me.
You do realize the guy is getting paid money for this video right...? A video that is designed entirely to provoke people with staw-man arguments and exaggeration. It's not his "opinion" when he makes wild claims and insults backed up with broken logic with no facts or evidence to back up his sensationalist claims. Then again your post and attitude suggests you haven't even seen the video...
 

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D_987 said:
Shycte said:
The worst part is that they one's that not attacking Bob, which is immature, is attacking consoles. It's like, Well, consoles fucking suck. And I'm left standing, so?...
I think people have given up actually attacking Movie Bob, at this point expecting him not to make a crazed and delusional rant about the gaming industry, occasionally claiming Nintendo is superior and anyone who doesn't like playing the exact games Bob likes is retarded [though Bob loves Nintendo's repetitive library of the same few games and nothing else] is just expected. It's what he does. Of course this time the rant is about PC games and how crazed and delusional its fanbase is apparently, look as Bob re-defines words, claims its death and then posts a childish disclaimer - all whilst backing up his wild claims with a distinct lack of economic evidence.

His arguments are provably false; in fact the vast majority of this thread has been people dedicating themselves to prove just that - if you'd read even a couple of pages on this thread you'd have seen it, though of course you're to busy obsessing over the whole "PC elitists" angle.

Get over it guys, it's just his opinion. Go out in the sun and go for a walk, it'll be better when you come back trust me.
You do realize the guy is getting paid money for this video right...? A video that is designed entirely to provoke people with staw-man arguments and exaggeration. It's not his "opinion" when he makes wild claims and insults backed up with broken logic with no facts or evidence to back up his sensationalist claims. Then again your post and attitude suggests you haven't even seen the video...
While I am very tempted to just say "umad" and leave you here while I go to sleep, that would be the best thing to do so let's not.

I did see the video, he did some fair points and some unfair. I'm not saying that I agree with him because I'm not. I'm just saying that 37 pages prove that this matter way more than it should to some people.

I could go on, but I'm not going to. You said that he was making money from this video, which is true. He shares his thoughts on a subject and he gets paid for it, that's go to be the greatest job ever when you think about it.


Funny when you think about it.
 

D_987

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Shycte said:
While I am very tempted to just say "umad" and leave you here while I go to sleep, that would be the best thing to do so let's not.
You think your previous comment was the "best thing to do" then?

I did see the video, he did some fair points and some unfair. I'm not saying that I agree with him because I'm not. I'm just saying that 37 pages prove that this matter way more than it should to some people.
Perhaps, or maybe it just means something to a decent majority - and said video has been posted on other forums whom come here to mock its creator - I see a decent number of posters with post counts in the 10's on this thread.

I could go on, but I'm not going to. You said that he was making money from this video, which is true. He shares his thoughts on a subject and he gets paid for it, that's go to be the greatest job ever when you think about it.
Depends how moronic your thoughts are - if you can't back up your ludicrous claims as Bob cannot you're going to get mocked, as is occurring in this thread - you mention Glen Beck later in the thread - and that's pretty much identical to this situation - it's someone talking sensationalist nonsense to try to gain more views - it worked, but I'd like to think The Escapist are smart enough to realize this kind of coverage does nothing but damage their reputation [I use the word lightly] as a "reputable" source of insight into gaming culture.
 

Phanixis

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Perhaps Bob needs to stick with reviewing movies.

Some of the speculation is interesting, but the underlying logic seems horribly, horribly flawed. I would ask if I was the only one who noticed, but from the 37 pages worth of post that appear mostly critical from the samples I have read, it appears everybody on the escapist has noticed. Nevertheless, I feel like contributing my two cents.

Bob's arguments essential boil down to the fact that as technology progresses, computing power is becoming cheaper, faster, more portable and wireless. So we are basically getting better hardware for our PC gaming hardware for less, and this is supposed to kill PC gaming? Bob, did you even listen to your own video? You're claiming PC Gaming will die because we will have even better technology to run our games with. How do you miss such a lapse in logic? Will you next claim mountain biking is dead because you expect bikes to become lighter and cheaper?

Then again, if you can't make the distinction between a PC and a Desktop, I suppose we should expect confusion to abound. Bob uses these terms interchangeably, and never once seems to acknowledge the difference between them. A Personal Computer refers to any general purpose computer that can be programmed or reconfigured to perform whatever function is needed by the end user, and is hardly limited to bulky desktop computers. At the very least, considering how PC Gaming is the topic at hand, Bob should of included any platform capable of running PC games as a Personal Computer, such as laptops, as every third poster has pointed out. After all, the point isn't what form the PC will take in the future, but the fact that as long as it can run games, PC owners have every reason to buy games for them. Whether it takes the form of a box or some futuristic pocket computer the wirelessly connects to all its peripherals is wholly irrelevant. As long as it can run games(and by definition it can run games if the user configures it for that purpose), users will use it to run games.

One last thing. Toward the beginning of the video, Bob makes a comment that suggest PC gamers only became PC gamers because they were unable to afford real gaming systems like the Nintendo and were thus stuck with their PCs as their only gaming system. I mention this because it illustrates Bob's complete ignorance of the subject material at hand. Bob, PC gaming rigs were and still are more expensive than any console system, primarily due to the fact that you are purchasing better hardwire. This was particular true during the Nintendo years, where a simple hard drive would put you back than a complete NES systems including cartridges. Simply put, nobody was choosing PCs over consoles do to lack of money. You would know this if you had bothered to carry out any research on the subject matter before posting this very speculative and uninformed opinion piece. You might want to stick with movies in the future Bob.
 

Goliathvv

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Something isn't entirely clear to me: what do you consider "pc gaming"? I mean, what's your definition of "pc gaming" in a few words?
 

Lissa-QUON

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Yea...this video is flame bait of some kind. If it isn't I am rather shocked and saddened.

I also know that this has been said 500 times already, but I have to say it before I have an aneurysm

A laptop IS a PC. It uses similar if not the same parts, it runs the same OS that desktops can, it can do everything a desk top does to varying degrees. So THAT part of your argument I'm going to rule as invalid.

Personally I don't play too many console games, I never got seriously got into it. I hate playing shooters with the analog sticks, and the whole Wii motion controls for anything that isn't Boom Blox drives me nuts. The only "console" I own is a DS which I use for travel or to kill time in waiting rooms.

Also I'm a broke artist - I need a computer that can run the Creative Suite and other various odds and ends smoothly without issue. I have yet to meet a tablet PC that can do that and I would rather not have to replace a laptop every 3 years when I could just plug in more RAM or change out the graphics card of a desk top model. I do intend to buy a laptop in the future but more for basic travel usage - not to replace my behemoth of a desk top.

So for me, using my work station to play games makes sense. I already have the system for work, paying the odd 10-60 bucks on a game makes more sense to me than dropping a few hundred plus dollars plus cost of the game on another brick that can do the same thing to a lesser degree.
 

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i would have to agree that the pc as we know it is dying, but dissagree with the view that it will be superseeded but tablets and notebooks rather than evolve into something like a virtual reality room (taking the place of home theatres).