The Big Picture: PC Gaming Is Dead - Long Live PC Gaming!

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TheEndlessSleep

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Shycte said:
Get over it guys, it's just his opinion. Go out in the sun and go for a walk, it'll be better when you come back trust me.
It's our opinion too...

What makes our opinion less valid than his?

That's what argument is all about.

You can't simply dismiss the opposite side of the argument as wrong, that's how 6 year old children argue.
 

DanDeFool

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Sorry, but this is foolish. Your argument includes the strange delusion that people will go out of their way to buy more objects that do individual tasks (many of which include monthly fees), rather than sticking to a single, easy to use hub where all these tasks can be done at once.

The PC isn't dead. It isn't even declining. Nothing that currently exists is more mobile that includes the same functionality WITHOUT sacrificing quality.

People are often under the delusion that technology will magically get better in every area, without thinking about the implications of that assumption. We were told that we would have flying cars, weren't we? People who said that saw growth in technology and just assumed that it would continue. Voice recognition software has been crappy for how many years? It's still crappy. A friend of mine was bragging about how good his phone was at recognizing his voice. Speaking clearly into it, he managed to get it to recognize 3/4ths of a sentence. That is terrible. People just assume it will get better.

Cell phones can't replace PCs. Inputting information into a cell phone is like pulling teeth. Functionality is limited.
Tablets won't replace PCs. Information input is still worse, internet usage is iffy, monthly fees related to internet usage are annoying. If they replace anything, they may replace laptops. Kind of.
Consoles won't replace PCs. Information input is terrible. If they ran the programs you mentioned, it would take 10-20 times as long to complete the same task. You would throw down your controller and go to your PC before you can say, "Well, that was a bad purchase."
There's no reason you couldn't design a tablet or a smartphone to connect to a monitor, keyboard, and mouse.

At this point it's just a matter of design for functionality. The only reason tablets can't do the things you discussed isn't because it's impossible, but because those devices are intended to be used on the go, and people still have the computers they use at home.

It's kind of like landlines vs. cellphones. There's nothing a landline can do now that a cell phone can't do, (except be called by telemarketers) so more people are getting rid of their landlines and just using their cellphones. As soon as mobile devices have the same flexibility as PCs as far as peripherals and applications (which could, hypothetically, be achieved with Bluetooth or similar technology), PCs may become well and truly obsolete.
 

Shycte

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TheEndlessSleep said:
Shycte said:
Get over it guys, it's just his opinion. Go out in the sun and go for a walk, it'll be better when you come back trust me.
It's our opinion too...

What makes our opinion less valid than his?

That's what argument is all about.

You can't simply dismiss the opposite side of the argument as wrong, that's how 6 year old children argue.
I'm not saying that anyones opinions are worth more than anyone else. I'm just saying that people are talking this way too seriously.
 

Shycte

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Shycte said:
While I am very tempted to just say "umad" and leave you here while I go to sleep, that would be the best thing to do so let's not.
You think your previous comment was the "best thing to do" then?

I did see the video, he did some fair points and some unfair. I'm not saying that I agree with him because I'm not. I'm just saying that 37 pages prove that this matter way more than it should to some people.
Perhaps, or maybe it just means something to a decent majority - and said video has been posted on other forums whom come here to mock its creator - I see a decent number of posters with post counts in the 10's on this thread.

I could go on, but I'm not going to. You said that he was making money from this video, which is true. He shares his thoughts on a subject and he gets paid for it, that's go to be the greatest job ever when you think about it.
Depends how moronic your thoughts are - if you can't back up your ludicrous claims as Bob cannot you're going to get mocked, as is occurring in this thread - you mention Glen Beck later in the thread - and that's pretty much identical to this situation - it's someone talking sensationalist nonsense to try to gain more views - it worked, but I'd like to think The Escapist are smart enough to realize this kind of coverage does nothing but damage their reputation [I use the word lightly] as a "reputable" source of insight into gaming culture.
Holy shit, this does matter a lot too you doesn't it?

Yeah yeah, anyway. I'm not the one who should talk here since I'm not a PC Gamer, so this actully doesn't mean anything for me. I just wanted to point out that this is just one guys making a claim that's been made a zillion other times and it wasn't exactly right then either. Now Bob says it and we have 37 pages, and acording to you, even people from other pages.

So like I said, people are talking this way to seriously than they should.
 

D_987

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Holy shit, this does matter a lot too you doesn't it?
"too you"? It obviously matters to you, seeing as how you're constantly responding - I'd much rather be posting about an issue than posting about how wrong it is for other people to hold a strong opinion on a subject I don't understand, or has no relevance to me - which is exactly what you're doing.

Yeah yeah, anyway. I'm not the one who should talk here since I'm not a PC Gamer, so this actully doesn't mean anything for me. I just wanted to point out that this is just one guys making a claim that's been made a zillion other times and it wasn't exactly right then either. Now Bob says it and we have 37 pages, and acording to you, even people from other pages.
You really don't get it? It has nothing to do with the point being made, but the way the point was made, that has gotten people so annoyed - the video is designed to provoke. Then again I find it rather "hilarious" you had such a strong need to post on a thread about people caring so much; it's like you have an inadequacy issue and just wanted to post for the sake of it.

So like I said, people are talking this way to seriously than they should.
No they aren't - this is exactly the kind of video people should be opposing - lazy research, moronic points made and an overall sense of arrogance despite the previous two points leading to a video that makes The Escapist look bad, the contributor [who's "expertise" lies in film] look bad and the community look bad for allowing it.

Your whole argument stinks of immaturity to be honest - people are able to hold opinions on whatever they wish - just because its not interesting or relevant to you does not mean the same it true of other people. It's how they express those opinions, [something Bob did incorrectly] that you should care about.
 

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Heck of a way for a lurker to make his first post... but.

I agree with Bob and yet I don't agree with him. I'm filled with mixed emotions listening to this video. I tried to write a large paragraph, but I think I can sum my feelings down to this:

I'm a Gamer, my gaming system of choice is PC. I do not see any difference between me and my fellow console gamers. Were all doing the same great activity, each in there own preferred way.

We shouldn't fight each other, we should be fighting bad game design, poor pricing, over priced DLC, and all the other faults of the games industry, together.
 

Shycte

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D_987 said:
Shycte said:
Holy shit, this does matter a lot too you doesn't it?
"too you"? It obviously matters to you, seeing as how you're constantly responding - I'd much rather be posting about an issue than posting about how wrong it is for other people to hold a strong opinion on a subject I don't understand, or has no relevance to me - which is exactly what you're doing.

Yeah yeah, anyway. I'm not the one who should talk here since I'm not a PC Gamer, so this actully doesn't mean anything for me. I just wanted to point out that this is just one guys making a claim that's been made a zillion other times and it wasn't exactly right then either. Now Bob says it and we have 37 pages, and acording to you, even people from other pages.
You really don't get it? It has nothing to do with the point being made, but the way the point was made, that has gotten people so annoyed - the video is designed to provoke. Then again I find it rather "hilarious" you had such a strong need to post on a thread about people caring so much; it's like you have an inadequacy issue and just wanted to post for the sake of it.

So like I said, people are talking this way to seriously than they should.
No they aren't - this is exactly the kind of video people should be opposing - lazy research, moronic points made and an overall sense of arrogance despite the previous two points leading to a video that makes The Escapist look bad, the contributor [who's "expertise" lies in film] look bad and the community look bad for allowing it.

Your whole argument stinks of immaturity to be honest - people are able to hold opinions on whatever they wish - just because its not interesting or relevant to you does not mean the same it true of other people. It's how they express those opinions, [something Bob did incorrectly] that you should care about.
Aggresive much?

I think you are jumbing to conclusions about what I beileve and what I don't beileve. I don't like it much when people do that mind you.

With that said I bid you my humble goodbye.
 

GameMaNiAC

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I tend to ignore most of the things Movie Bob says. He's been so wrong so many times I've lost count. When PC gaming dies so will the console gaming because when that happens, something entirely new will come along to replace PCs and consoles in gaming world. Maybe a holodeck.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
 

Ascarona

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zeropike said:
I'm a Gamer, my gaming system of choice is PC. I do not see any difference between me and my fellow console gamers. Were all doing the same great activity, each in there own preferred way.

We shouldn't fight each other, we should be fighting bad game design, poor pricing, over priced DLC, and all the other faults of the games industry, together.
This, a little late to make your first post indeed but it's content makes up for that. There's so much hate between platform fans it's rediculous.
 

D_987

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Shycte said:
Aggresive much?
When replies are as mocking, troll-like and childish as yours aggressions is more than warranted.

I think you are jumbing to conclusions about what I beileve and what I don't beileve. I don't like it much when people do that mind you.
I'm not "jumbing" to conclusions - I'm taking what you have previously stated and forming a basis of your character around it.

To be honest I don't like it when people post on threads for the sole purpose of being an annoyance; you've said nothing of interest, or relevance, to the topic - and clearly have nothing of interest to say beyond the already previous discussing comments.

With that said I bid you my humble goodbye.
Glad to see you've realized your mistake.
 

tamerman

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I think your wronge moviebob.

There are three things a home computer will always have that a portable one just wont.

1. Unlimited power life
2. Stable and reliable internet connection
3. more space for you to sit and look strait ahead of you, and type without your hands rubbing against one another due to tiny keyboards.
 

Genixma

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No need to apologize to people. Especially the people from Alienware. They may advertise on here but the majority of what I've heard is that they give out expensive faulty machinary and have an even crappier customer service and even charge you if you want to send the faulty machine back. Sure they send out the good machine once in a blue moon but it seriously isn't worth enough to cover it's behind for the rest of the bad stuff.
 

SniperMacFox

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SniperMacFox said:
Wonder how long it'll take before people realise that MovieBob meant that you don't need PC's themselves anymore, by that he means that with every other portable device on the planet the days when gaming on the PC has to be restricted to a great hulking behemoth are gone, that there a few situations when games have to be on this device in order to get the most out of it.

I've got a friend organizing a Starcraft 2 laptop party which is not only physically possible but it also reduces the chances of one of us getting severe back pains from lugging around your average system.

In much less words, Moviebob is saying that PC systems aren't needed any more to play games and that games aren't "needed" exclusively for PC systems either. He just likes to mess about with fanboys too much.
Shhh...common sense has no place in this thread. Go back to your corner and think about what you just did!
But... But I... *sighs* fine...
*Crosses his arms and sits in the corner*
 

Brian Hendershot

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SniperMacFox said:
Brian Hendershot said:
SniperMacFox said:
Wonder how long it'll take before people realise that MovieBob meant that you don't need PC's themselves anymore, by that he means that with every other portable device on the planet the days when gaming on the PC has to be restricted to a great hulking behemoth are gone, that there a few situations when games have to be on this device in order to get the most out of it.

I've got a friend organizing a Starcraft 2 laptop party which is not only physically possible but it also reduces the chances of one of us getting severe back pains from lugging around your average system.

In much less words, Moviebob is saying that PC systems aren't needed any more to play games and that games aren't "needed" exclusively for PC systems either. He just likes to mess about with fanboys too much.
Shhh...common sense has no place in this thread. Go back to your corner and think about what you just did!
But... But I... *sighs* fine...
*Crosses his arms and sits in the corner*
Good. Now you can come out when you have learned how to engage in a pissing contest and wave your opinions around as if they are facts like everyone else! Also. NO DESSERT TONIGHT!
 

TitsMcGee1804

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I had my own arguments on why pc gaming isnt dead, then I looked at the comments and saw 38 pages full of new arguments that made me even more certain...(most of them anyway :p)

...i LOVE my PC!!!! yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!

btw I own a PS3, and dont really use it tbh, i dont hate it, I just dont use it
 

Matsuringo

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Bob, I'm a long time fan. 99.9% of everything you've ever said, I've felt is very insightful and I've easily agreed upon the point, even the painful ones I had yet to realize that conflicted with something I like.

I just have to ask, is this actually you? Who made this video?

This video sounds more like something I'd read on a daily basis on 4chan's video games board. Uneducated opinions and generalizations abound.

I won't go into much argument over this, 1300 people before me had something to say and I think that's enough (hell you probably won't even read this personally), but if you think PC gaming is dead, I have two simple names for you:

Steam
Minecraft

If you think PC's in general are dead, I have two more names for you:

Intel
AMD

Good day, sir.
 

grumbel

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Samurai Goomba said:
A laptop. Is. A. PC.
A PC and a Gaming PC are two very different things. While your average laptop will run Office and FarmVille without a problem, it will have a much harder time playing Crysis or any other "gamer game". The amount of PCs in the world has after all never been the problem of the PC gaming market, the problem is that a lot of those PCs are not very good for modern games.