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Kilaknux

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Sulu said:
There are many reasons why I voted for them and I actually despise the people who say "racist nazis" just because the BNP dare to say anything negative about immigration. It isn't racist to dislike mass immigration! It isn't racist to kick out the ILLEGAL immigrants who cheat the system. It isn't racist to be patriotic.
It is, however, racist to deny the holocaust and claim that it was all a conspiracy by Jewish people - "There is no doubt that hundreds, probably thousands of Jews were shot to death in Eastern Europe, because they were rightly or wrongly seen as communists or potential partisan supporters. That was awful. But THIS NONSENSE ABOUT GAS CHAMBERS is exposed as a total lie." - Nick Griffin, 1997,http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6X8QQwU00Jk&feature=related

It is racist to make disparaging comments about an entire race for no reason beyond bile and hatred - "Without the White race nothing matters [other right-wing parties] believe that the answer to the race question is integration and a futile attempt to create "Black Britons", while we affirm that NON-WHITES HAVE NO PLACE HERE AT ALL AND WILL NOT REST UNTIL EVERY LAST ONE HAS LEFT OUR LAND." - Nick Griffin

Oh, and, patriotic? - "Churchill was a fucking **** who led us into a pointless war with other whites [the Nazis] standing up for their race." - Mark Collett

"He's a fucking traitor." - Mark Collett on the Prince of Wales

"The Royals have betrayed their people. When we're in power they'll be WIPED OUT and we'll get some Germans to rule properly." - Mark Collett
 

Bretty

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I beleive that unless the British Gov't do something to fix our country, health care costs and free housing.. we are going to have even more issues in the future.

The BNP is now actively on the scene because are fed up with paying for imigrants health care and housing. I can give you many instances of the problems but unless asked I cannot be arsed to type it all.

I have never and will never vote BNP... BUT... I really cant blame those who do.
 

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Woodsey said:
Oh I've just remembered something which I actually can't believe I forgot about.

They've got a youth thing going on , and there's this puppet called Billy Brit.

Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnwFmquvv38&NR=1

Trust me this shit is real.

The ones in the related videos are anti-BNP spoofs though.
I remember watching that on HIGNY...it was hilarious at the time.
What worries me though is the whole idea of targeting children, and it's a very convincing argument to an eight year-old.
"Your daddy is out of work because the nasty black people took his job. Vote for us. Get rid of the nasty black people".
 

Woodsey

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Supreme Unleaded said:
I dont even know what BNP is so i can't really comment.
They're a minor party, the initials stand for British National* Party.

I'm guessing you're not from Britain? They're pretty prolific in the news at the moment, but I don't know how much British politics are covered abroad.


*Nazi
 

Woodsey

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-leVOqj93BE&feature=related

This is even better than the puppet thing.

He's shaking hands with a former member of the KKK, and giving a speech (according to the video's info box to other ex-members of the KKK).

Sulu said:
There are many reasons why I voted for them and I actually despise the people who say "racist nazis" .
I think maybe you should watch that. Unless of course you're denying that the KKK are racist?
 

JWAN

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Well, I cant say as I approve of their message but they have the freedom of speech and you have the freedom of ignoring them.

Its like the KKK or the Black Panthers

they make a big deal out of everything the best thing you can do is ignore them and walk away. The more publicity you give them (like the author of this article) the more free advertising they get.
 

Sulu

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I think probably the main reason I voted BNP is because I was sick to death of the bashing of this party. People rave about democracy and then tell everyone "Hey don't vote BNP!" which is facism.
 

Sulu

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Woodsey said:
I think maybe you should watch that. Unless of course you're denying that the KKK are racist?
Theres a far cry between burning people and disliking jonny foreigner! :p
 

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Woodsey said:
Supreme Unleaded said:
I dont even know what BNP is so i can't really comment.
They're a minor party, the initials stand for British National* Party.

I'm guessing you're not from Britain? They're pretty prolific in the news at the moment, but I don't know how much British politics are covered abroad.


*Nazi
Yeah, im an American (sadly), and I don'twatch most news stations because there to focused on celebraties. I listen to NPR and they only broadcast BBC at like midnight, so I can't listen to it even though its pretty much the best news there is.
 

Sulu

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Glefistus said:
They're all racist morons. There nation would go to hell in a hand basket if they honestly stopped immigration and started forcing emigration. Let me guess, the only people in the BNP are chavs and skinheads, right?

Sulu said:
I think probably the main reason I voted BNP is because I was sick to death of the bashing of this party. People rave about democracy and then tell everyone "Hey don't vote BNP!" which is facism.
^stupidest thing I have EVER heard. "The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter." ~Winston Churchill
Good ol' Winston, I really like him.

I would raise you the stupidest thing I have ever heard with your first statement. I am neither a chav or a skinhead, I have a good education and have a full head of hair!
 

Faps

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Sulu said:
I voted BNP and will now tell you why.

I believe that British people should get jobs over immigrants. I believe that people shouldn't come to this country, get asylum then get benefits that I pay for. The BNP also look to keep our national identity and values, I will not live in a country with such tripe as Sharia Law.

They also look to stop this mass asylum surge because it is just too easy to cheat the system! All you have to do is say "I will die if I go home" and you get asylum, benefits and a council flat all paid for by the British public - they also get told not to work so as to not benefit the economy whatsoever.

There are many reasons why I voted for them and I actually despise the people who say "racist nazis" just because the BNP dare to say anything negative about immigration. It isn't racist to dislike mass immigration! It isn't racist to kick out the ILLEGAL immigrants who cheat the system. It isn't racist to be patriotic.
You do know that the vast vast majority of immigrants and asylum seekers to this country go on to be productive members of society paying taxes and contributing to the country as a whole.

Yes there are a small minority who exploit the system who are sadly focused on by the media who portray all immigrants and asylum seekers as this.

There is absolutely no chance of Sharia law being used in this country, the lawyers are extremely happy the way things are and the idea of them loosing control over a section of law just doesn't cross their minds.

If you want a group of people to focus your anger at you should look at the generational unemployment that infects the poor housing estates of the UK, these people far outnumber the immigrants and asylum seekers. In a nice bit of irony it's these people who are the strongest supporters of the BNP and alike.

Also, what is our national identity and values?
 

Woodsey

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Sulu said:
Woodsey said:
I think maybe you should watch that. Unless of course you're denying that the KKK are racist?
Theres a far cry between burning people and disliking jonny foreigner! :p
Oh right ok then, it's fine for a political party to sit down and discuss with one of the most racist and sickening groups in history. My mistake.


Oh wait, no, you're mistake.

How can you possibly accept that? The man in charge of your chosen party (whatever fucking party it is) should be condemning racist c*nts like that man. And yet, he's giving a fucking speech to them.

And there really isn't much of a 'far cry' as you put it, especially when they're all but openly racist already.
 

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Yeah, I dislike Illegal Immigration and the abuse of the system. I also dislike my knees, but if I wanted to get rid of them I'd have to chop off my feet as well and I love them!

I just created the stupidest analogy in this thread.
 

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Kilaknux said:
Sulu said:
There are many reasons why I voted for them and I actually despise the people who say "racist nazis" just because the BNP dare to say anything negative about immigration. It isn't racist to dislike mass immigration! It isn't racist to kick out the ILLEGAL immigrants who cheat the system. It isn't racist to be patriotic.
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Hats off to Kilaknux for pointing out these facts... hats off to you.

I do have a problem with Illegal immigrants getting into the country, I'le admit that, I even have problems with the immigration we have now, Briton is getting very full and over populated as it is, we can't bare the weight for much longer... I however don't hate the immigrants, I understand why they feel the need to come here, I feel sorry for them I truly do, I do wish that other countries would start taking some of the weight off of us, I'm not saying the other countries aren't trying but I think they need to try harder to share the load.

The BNP don't want this, the BNP are an unjustified(Unjustified in the sense that they can't blame it on religion like them ignorant idiots) version of the KKK in my eye's, if they ever got into power they seem like the type of people to start mass genocide or slave trade again. There Nazi's yet stupid, stupid, ( Stupid that makes so angry that I can't emphasise how angry this make me feel over a keyboard) dirty bastards will believe there doing the right thing "Getting dem Immigrants out"
 

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Sulu said:
Glefistus said:
They're all racist morons. There nation would go to hell in a hand basket if they honestly stopped immigration and started forcing emigration. Let me guess, the only people in the BNP are chavs and skinheads, right?

Sulu said:
I think probably the main reason I voted BNP is because I was sick to death of the bashing of this party. People rave about democracy and then tell everyone "Hey don't vote BNP!" which is facism.
^stupidest thing I have EVER heard. "The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter." ~Winston Churchill
Good ol' Winston, I really like him.

I would raise you the stupidest thing I have ever heard with your first statement. I am neither a chav or a skinhead, I have a good education and have a full head of hair!
I can't change your opinion or stop you voting BNP however i hope you realise that the BNP want to deport everyone who is not 'Pure British' as in white born in Britain. that is the law-abiding, legal immigrants as well, with good jobs who pay their taxes just like you do. We all immigrated out of Africa originally.
 

Woodsey

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Sulu said:
Woodsey said:
Well you know how the Nazi's persecuted the Jews?

Well the BNP want to persecute everybody who isn't white, even if they are British. They are openly racist (watch the video I just posted).

You're right, it isn't racist to be patriotic. But then again, you're not patriotic.

I don't mind if they persecute those who live in London. I hate going to that city and it's suburbs. It is a strange feeling to feel like you are in a different country in my own capital.

You know the Israelis are persecuting the Palestinians? And yet you don't call the jews in israel racist..
Because that's got nothing to do with the topic. If that's what I wanted to talk about I would of named my topic "Are the Jews in Israel racist?"

Besides, I don't know enough about that subject matter to go into it. Especially when it's got fuck all to do with this discussion.
 

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Glefistus said:
Sulu said:
Glefistus said:
They're all racist morons. There nation would go to hell in a hand basket if they honestly stopped immigration and started forcing emigration. Let me guess, the only people in the BNP are chavs and skinheads, right?

Sulu said:
I think probably the main reason I voted BNP is because I was sick to death of the bashing of this party. People rave about democracy and then tell everyone "Hey don't vote BNP!" which is facism.
^stupidest thing I have EVER heard. "The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter." ~Winston Churchill
Good ol' Winston, I really like him.

I would raise you the stupidest thing I have ever heard with your first statement. I am neither a chav or a skinhead, I have a good education and have a full head of hair!
A good education, however, is still not an indication of intelligence.
Amen.
 

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Faps said:
Also, what is our national identity and values?
To be open minded. To give the benefit of the doubt. To not judge people on the colour of their skin or the random piece of land they were born on. I always saw these are British values. Yet the BNP throw them out of the window.
 

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Glefistus said:
Sulu said:
Glefistus said:
They're all racist morons. There nation would go to hell in a hand basket if they honestly stopped immigration and started forcing emigration. Let me guess, the only people in the BNP are chavs and skinheads, right?

Sulu said:
I think probably the main reason I voted BNP is because I was sick to death of the bashing of this party. People rave about democracy and then tell everyone "Hey don't vote BNP!" which is facism.
^stupidest thing I have EVER heard. "The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter." ~Winston Churchill
Good ol' Winston, I really like him.

I would raise you the stupidest thing I have ever heard with your first statement. I am neither a chav or a skinhead, I have a good education and have a full head of hair!
A good education, however, is still not an indication of intelligence.
Truest statement ever.
 

ModDom

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I'm not worried about the BNP - they are a fringe party and, in my opinion, always will be. I even heard that in one area the Mad Raving Loony Party got more votes than them, which is surely saying something.
I still have a crack at a BNP sympathiser every now and then and was deeply annoyed when I heard they got a seat in the EU. The BNP are certainly rascist - why would you not allow membership to your party purely because of skin colour?