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DannyBoy451

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antiwheat said:
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I still don't support them, and I think they have made some bogus decisions, but I think it has to be made clear that they are in no way affiliated with the BNP.
Okay, they certainly are nothing like the BNP but as a person with English parents I think some of the things Alex Salmond says are downright racist. Scottish being discrimitory against English is still racism and it sickens me how people think this is okay. If any of the things he said were aimed at Muslims or people of other ethnicities he would be shouted down but because it is English people, it's totally fine.

One thing I remember him saying was when somebody asked who he'd back in a football cup, he said something along the lines of "If anyone but England wins, I'll be happy". This may seem like a harmless enough remark but when our leader constantly speaks bull like this, I find the people are more willing to believe it. I meet loads of otherwise great, intelligent people who say they hate the English yet when asked what for or whether they've actually met an English person, more often than not they tend to shut up.
I'm an English-accented guy, with English parents, and I grew up in Scotland so naturaly I've had to take shit because of being labeled as English.

But the overwhelming majority of Scots arn't really serious about hating English people, it's more a card that assholes will pull on you if they don't like you in the first place.

As an English person living in Scotland you just need to learn to take a joke, don't be so butthurt about it, and don't take it as racism.
 

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Amnestic said:
Okay, that's two people in 7 posts. Come on guys. They're/Their/There. The rules are very simple. You people drive me up the walls with those mistakes.

Though at least you didn't write the ever hilarious "your an idiot."
I know the feeling, that really does irritate me. As for the BNP. The day they get in, is the day I start an all out revolution here in the UK.
 

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olikunmissile said:
Amnestic said:
Okay, that's two people in 7 posts. Come on guys. They're/Their/There. The rules are very simple. You people drive me up the walls with those mistakes.

Though at least you didn't write the ever hilarious "your an idiot."
I know the feeling, that really does irritate me. As for the BNP. The day they get in, is the day I start an all out revolution here in the UK.
Can I join??, we can disguise our self's using Guy Fawkes masks.
 

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olikunmissile said:
Amnestic said:
Okay, that's two people in 7 posts. Come on guys. They're/Their/There. The rules are very simple. You people drive me up the walls with those mistakes.

Though at least you didn't write the ever hilarious "your an idiot."
I know the feeling, that really does irritate me. As for the BNP. The day they get in, is the day I start an all out revolution here in the UK.
Yep. As someone above said, for England under the BNP, see V for Vendetta. And we will win.
 

Boaal

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Even if the BNP aren't racist, a laughable idea t best, their followers certainly are!
 

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mightybozz said:
It's right above me, so ain't gonna bother repeating it all, just letting him know he's been noticed and agreed with.

My God, my parents read the Daily Mail and actually seem to believe some of it, and it's just patently ridiculous the way they can link almost any new article to immigrants. They seem to blame immigrants for everything from wheelie bins to testicular cancer. It's scary that the Sun seems to have better journalism than the Mail, when the Mail at least looks like an adult paper. It amazes me when you see wars, disasters, financial chaos on other newspaper front pages, and the Mail is leading with a tale about immigrants getting a free hat, or someone getting the wrong colour of wheely bin.

They and most papers vastly exaggerate the amount of immigrants in the country and how much they get in terms in of benefits. I'm always suspicious of the tales of families on benefits saying they're pulling in over £100,000 a year in benefits, when I know from my own experience when unemployed I was getting about £45 a week and nothing else, which could maybe be inflated by not paying NI and income tax etc, but still, it's a long step from what I experienced to these families supposedly living in luxury. I'm also sick of the constant witch hunt on people on benefits when MPs and bankers have screwed more out of this country than entire cities of benefit fraudsters. I do believe the majority of people on benefits are there because they need to be, and sure we should deal with the bad apples, but not blame all of them for the few.

I also agree that immigrants should be allowed to work here, I'd even be fine with allowing them to work for just benefit rates, as they'd still be better off than what they'd escaped, if they're seeking asylum. Skilled workers can obviously be placed where they'll do the most good, unskilled workers, well there's more than enough cleaning, litter collection, gardening, etc that needs doing, and doesn't even need a good basis in English language. Then we offer education in English and help them to integrate. Then they can truly become a useful member of our society.

For me, if someone is contributing to Britain, they're British enough for me. (unless they're French, of course)

^ sheesh, yes, it's a joke!
 

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Cmwissy said:
Ahh, yes I knew someone would have to say this, and I knew it would have to be me, I know I will get flagged/reported, but I must say the truth.

Most of englands - probably not Britains crime is committed by people of non-British origins

I would risk looking racist to save the life of poor little girl #1156

And no I am not racist you knee jerked lemon scented pussy wipes, I'm just making a truthful observation.
Again, who are people of non-British origin? First generation immigrants? They make up less than 1% of the population - are you seriously saying that you think over 50% (as in "most") of England's crime is committed by that <1%? The statistics don't add up - I therefore won't label you a racist, but you are obviously not very good at reasoning.
 

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antiwheat said:
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It's a shame that acts and plots of terrorism only serve to give parties like the BNP leverage. People say them having any support is minor, but it's still growing. Can you imagine if most of the terrorist acts came to fruition? Griffin would be dancing a jig. But I guess regardless, they still wouldn't get enough support to get into office.
Honestly, I wouldn't be too sure. If Scotland can elect a racist party with a racist leader (SNP and Alex Salmond respectively), I don't see why Britain as a whole wouldn't eventually do the same.
I was thinking about it. If enough bombings and acts of terrorism happen, there will be enough fear circulating through Britain for them to become a credible threat. That's what I think.
 

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Cmwissy said:
Ahh, yes I knew someone would have to say this, and I knew it would have to be me, I know I will get flagged/reported, but I must say the truth.

Most of englands - probably not Britains crime is committed by people of non-British origins

I would risk looking racist to save the life of poor little girl #1156

And no I am not racist you knee jerked lemon scented pussy wipes, I'm just making a truthful observation.
Ok, I'll bite. Source? If you're going to make that kind of claim, especially if you insult us and call it a "truthful observation", you must be getting that information from somewhere. So, show me an article or survey from a credible source that backs up the line I emboldened, or I call bullshit.
 

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bluepilot said:
I do not think it is racism

It is just that people are losing jobs and do not see why other jobs should go to non-British people over natives. Also, they do not see why taxes payed by British people should give non-British welfare and free health care. Immigration barriers are poorly controlled so immigration allows a lot a crime such as people traffiking to occur..remember when they `lost` all those blank passports

It is easy to see why people are upset and see immigration as a threat. It is more panic and despiration that calls for a scapegoat instead of solving the root of social problems.

I hope the BNP never makes it anywhere. It will be a sad day for Britain when tyranny like that takes over. Judgement over reason and force without measures.

More steps do need to be taken over immigration though. To protect those sold into prostitution and slavery `legally` and prosecute those who pay for sex with children or a `slave`.

But how can the balance be achieved between human rights and the need for barrier control? There upon lies the problem. That is why people get away with their slave trades.
So you would have any immigrant legal or not, be barred from this country?
Any immigrant, legal or not, deported?
Any son of an immigrant, legal or not, deported?
Any Non-White British Citizen, legal or not, deported?
And have these people http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsmRH1XAQeg in charge of Britain?

You need to think about your political views a bit more.
 

mightybozz

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All of this hate is stirred up by the evil, bigoted and maliciously ignorant reporting by Rupert Murdoch's papers.
The crime figures depend on how you define non-british origins of course. But would you object if the victims are mostly non-british or in poor areas (which they are - I've been in plenty of courtrooms)?
 

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Sulu said:
I voted BNP and will now tell you why.

I believe that British people should get jobs over immigrants. I believe that people shouldn't come to this country, get asylum then get benefits that I pay for. The BNP also look to keep our national identity and values, I will not live in a country with such tripe as Sharia Law.
well, i'll disagree with your first point by saying that the jobs should go to the best. not to whoever happened to be born in britain, the person best qualified for that job.

i must admit i think that the paying for immigrants should be more like a loan to help them get set up. i think it would work better that way provided the system wasn't abused. and they wouldn't need to be thrown out of the country.

and while i'm not sure what that law you are referring to is, i doubt that it applies here. people know that the law changes when they go to a different country. they came here anyway. thus, they shouldn't mind. however, your approach to it is very racist, so don't be surprised at people saying that.

They also look to stop this mass asylum surge because it is just too easy to cheat the system! All you have to do is say "I will die if I go home" and you get asylum, benefits and a council flat all paid for by the British public - they also get told not to work so as to not benefit the economy whatsoever.
like i said, that should be more like a loan. i haven't heard of them being told not to work, but if it's true then i think that's just a flaw in the system.

There are many reasons why I voted for them and I actually despise the people who say "racist nazis" just because the BNP dare to say anything negative about immigration. It isn't racist to dislike mass immigration! It isn't racist to kick out the ILLEGAL immigrants who cheat the system. It isn't racist to be patriotic.
i don't believe patriotism is a valid form of government. be patriotic if you want i guess, but if patriotism decided to focus around hatred, then it instantly becomes worthless.

and unfortunately, if you care to look at some of their materials [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnwFmquvv38], you will see that they are very racist.
 

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If they are misunderstood they are evidently happy to be so as they seem to have done little to change their press.

BNP is an inappropriate name as British does not mean racist.
 

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mightybozz said:
olikunmissile said:
Amnestic said:
Okay, that's two people in 7 posts. Come on guys. They're/Their/There. The rules are very simple. You people drive me up the walls with those mistakes.

Though at least you didn't write the ever hilarious "your an idiot."
I know the feeling, that really does irritate me. As for the BNP. The day they get in, is the day I start an all out revolution here in the UK.
Yep. As someone above said, for England under the BNP, see V for Vendetta. And we will win.
Ironically Adam Susan seemed a much nicer man than Nick Griffen, even a very talented authors factitious interpitation of an evil fascist racist was bettered by an factual one.
 

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Me dad used to go to the NF (National Front, extremist version of BNP) and supports the BNP now, :p, and I don't really believe in there ways but I can see why people are starting to support them, becuase they are fed up with foreigners stealing jobs and parliamentary partyies such as Labour and Conservative doing bugger all about it, like bus drivers being made redundent for some polish person who will work for a lower wage, for me it's UKIP becuase I hate the EU, they just let anyone come in as they please, like rapists, murderers and thieves becuase their country is part of the EU, it makes Britain feel like the dumping ground of Europe. Anyway back to subject, the BNP and NF are racist and always will be, but Britain is a white nation and whites should be the majority of the population but you need some people of different ethical backgrounds otherwise there would be no charcater in the country.
 

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Azraellod said:
I don't believe patriotism is a valid form of government. be patriotic if you want i guess, but if patriotism decided to focus around hatred, then it instantly becomes worthless.

and unfortunately, if you care to look at some of their materials [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnwFmquvv38], you will see that they are very racist.
"Patriotism is the Virtue of the vicious" Oscar Wilde
 

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Sulu said:
I think probably the main reason I voted BNP is because I was sick to death of the bashing of this party. People rave about democracy and then tell everyone "Hey don't vote BNP!" which is facism.
Advising others to make good political choices isn't fascism.
 

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FolkLikePanda said:
Me dad used to go to the NF (National Front, extremist version of BNP) and supports the BNP now, :p, and I don't really believe in there ways but I can see why people are starting to support them, becuase they are fed up with foreigners stealing jobs and parliamentary partyies such as Labour and Conservative doing bugger all about it, like bus drivers being made redundent for some polish person who will work for a lower wage, for me it's UKIP becuase I hate the EU, they just let anyone come in as they please, like rapists, murderers and thieves becuase their country is part of the EU, it makes Britain feel like the dumping ground of Europe. Anyway back to subject, the BNP and NF are racist and always will be, but Britain is a white nation and whites should be the majority of the population but you need some people of different ethical backgrounds otherwise there would be no charcater in the country.
Damn all those rapists and murderers stealing our jobs, the white rapists are best!