The BNP are misunderstood...
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The BNP are absolutely right. All the white-folk who committed crimes against me (The only ones who've committed crimes against me) are obviously just dirty foreigners using voodoo.
Robert Lomas, the guy who stabbed me in the arm with a switchblade? Secret Israeli. Shhhhhh.
Sarcasm aside, the old and ignorant are still around. Give it a few years. By my calculations in around 10 years time the BNP's votes will have halved, due to mainly its core audience dieing of old-age.
With every new generation comes a bit more of social acceptance, we just have to wait. I'm happy to, but then again I'm a born chess-player, so I tend to think about the long-game rather than what's right around the corner.
Robert Lomas, the guy who stabbed me in the arm with a switchblade? Secret Israeli. Shhhhhh.
Sarcasm aside, the old and ignorant are still around. Give it a few years. By my calculations in around 10 years time the BNP's votes will have halved, due to mainly its core audience dieing of old-age.
With every new generation comes a bit more of social acceptance, we just have to wait. I'm happy to, but then again I'm a born chess-player, so I tend to think about the long-game rather than what's right around the corner.
No answer me, would you want them to be free if they raped you or your mother or a sibling or your girlfriend. You wouldn't would you?
One point I'd like to make on the whole 'foreigners are taking our jobs'.
It's more that they're DOING our jobs, because most of us won't.
Growing up in the 80s, I know most of our 'corner shops' (small stores selling cigs, newspapers, snacks and candy, etc, usually run by one family), ended up in the hands of immigrant indian families. Of course many brits were all outraged that those 'dirty pakis are stealing our jobs and our corner shops' as I used to hear regularly.
However, I'm of the firm belief that it was far more likely that they'd come from a country with a really forceful work ethic, and a 7 day week starting at 4am and finishing around 7pm wasn't something to fear.
Marcus Brigstocke spoke on this, saying that the difference between the British builders he'd had and the Polish builders he employed on his last job was amazing. That the boss of them asked him if they could return on the Bank Holiday monday to complete the task. OF course it may have been exaggerated for humourous effect, of which I've entirely failed to pass on, but still, I think with the amount of rules about working conditions, people just are not willing to work 14 hour days, or pick fruit for a couple of a pounds an hour etc.
I'm also not saying it is right that we should make them do these things, but at the same time, I think we should allow them work instead of just housing them and paying them benefits.
Surely a good test as to whether they're here to work, or here to claim asylum, or just here to leech off the state is to get them working a 40 hour week for their benefits. Anyone who's escaped a death sentence in another country isn't going to mind, anyone who's 'come here for a free ride' as the Mail seems to think of anyone who looks a bit foreign, won't like it and will leave.
Unfortunately, there's an army of lawyers and a whole bunch of employment and human rights laws in the way of my plan, I'm sure. I also realise it's not 'fair', but it's surely better than what they left behind, right?
It's more that they're DOING our jobs, because most of us won't.
Growing up in the 80s, I know most of our 'corner shops' (small stores selling cigs, newspapers, snacks and candy, etc, usually run by one family), ended up in the hands of immigrant indian families. Of course many brits were all outraged that those 'dirty pakis are stealing our jobs and our corner shops' as I used to hear regularly.
However, I'm of the firm belief that it was far more likely that they'd come from a country with a really forceful work ethic, and a 7 day week starting at 4am and finishing around 7pm wasn't something to fear.
Marcus Brigstocke spoke on this, saying that the difference between the British builders he'd had and the Polish builders he employed on his last job was amazing. That the boss of them asked him if they could return on the Bank Holiday monday to complete the task. OF course it may have been exaggerated for humourous effect, of which I've entirely failed to pass on, but still, I think with the amount of rules about working conditions, people just are not willing to work 14 hour days, or pick fruit for a couple of a pounds an hour etc.
I'm also not saying it is right that we should make them do these things, but at the same time, I think we should allow them work instead of just housing them and paying them benefits.
Surely a good test as to whether they're here to work, or here to claim asylum, or just here to leech off the state is to get them working a 40 hour week for their benefits. Anyone who's escaped a death sentence in another country isn't going to mind, anyone who's 'come here for a free ride' as the Mail seems to think of anyone who looks a bit foreign, won't like it and will leave.
Unfortunately, there's an army of lawyers and a whole bunch of employment and human rights laws in the way of my plan, I'm sure. I also realise it's not 'fair', but it's surely better than what they left behind, right?
No that's fine.Macksheath said:
It's just that we have a "Greens" and they are... just... awesome.
I quite agree good sir. I think the whole "immigrants taking our jobs" and acting lazily is groundless. Eastern Europeans work damn hard at their jobs, i think because since the collapse of the USSR, they have been striving for their own "European Dream" and are self-made workers.SenseOfTumour said:
Many migrants from third world countries lucky enough to get a good education train to become doctors and work with the NHS and live in the UK.
True, there are many migrants not so skilled, and come to Britain because their country is a shit hole, but not all of them will "leech" off the welfare state, many will try and make a life for themselves.
You my friend, you are my double, where in the UK are you located?Woodsey said:
Why I'm not supporting the BNP? Most of the family on my mum's side (including me) will be kicked out of the UK, due to our Polish heritage (My Great-Grandfather came over from Poland during WWII). Also, I know at least 2 of my friend's have Polish heritage, and Quite a few of my friends are Asian and Anglo-African (boo-yah for proper terms)
To put it in simple terms: Not only will they stop immigration, they're going to reverse it. If the MPs fiddled with expenses, these will fiddle with them 10 times as much.
EDIT: Actually, here's an odd fact. My friend (one of the ones with Polish heritage) said that his mum's co-workers voted for the BNP. Now, what's confusing is that they're black. Yes, it confused me aswell. They said that it was to get rid of the scum in the UK, obviously not realising the fact that to the BNP, they're the scum.
I've heard of this happening.Megacherv said:
Many people don't pay any attention to current affairs, and many may actually be totally unaware of what small parties stand for. The BNP use this lack of knowledge.
Their leaflets go on about easy targets almost most people are worried about - illegal immigrants, terrorism, crime, saving £9 billion a year by not giving money to Europe. That looks attractive. And when the BNP leaflets refer to protecting British jobs, they don't mention that the BNP's definition of "British" means whites only. Consequently some British blacks and Asians may erroneously think the BNP are offering to protect them too, and many whites don't realise that the BNP want to kick non-whites out.
It's things like that that are worrying. And I think that's why people voted for them; everyone's pissed with the big 2 (or 3 on how you look at it) - so they just go to the ones with the immigration policy (if that's what you can call their bullshit) and don't look at anything else.Megacherv said:
And err.. I lived in the country's arse in Norwich (Norfolk): where webbed fingers and toes feature without prejudice!
I've got a few relatives who live in Golcar, you have to go to them 'gimme six'Woodsey said:It's things like that that are worrying. And I think that's why people voted for them; everyone's pissed with the big 2 (or 3 on how you look at it) - so they just go to the ones with the immigration policy (if that's what you can call their bullshit) and don't look at anything else.Megacherv said:
And err.. I lived in the country's arse in Norwich (Norfolk): where webbed fingers and toes feature without prejudice!
Hahahaha Yeah I had a case of this, my brothers friend is Indian(he was born in the UK but his mum wasn't) and he was walking around with a BNP shirt shouting "Kick them immigrant basterds out" and such... that was total mind fuckery on me, I tried to tell him what the BNP actually stand for but I don't think he understood me.Agema said:
Apparently Griffin is now going for another election as the MP for my borough. A couple of friends are planning something and someone at my college applied for a sniper rifle licence.
Seriously.
Seriously.
Quick solution to this problem...
Ok less of the quick more of the fun.
We give this party and all its supporters a land of their own. Don't care where.
Then we watch as the lack of immigration leads to their entire population becoming inbred mutants incapable of running their country. Then we invade and claim them as slaves to work on our cotton plantations...
Actually, I'm starting to think there may be some hypocrisy involved in my plan.
Ok less of the quick more of the fun.
We give this party and all its supporters a land of their own. Don't care where.
Then we watch as the lack of immigration leads to their entire population becoming inbred mutants incapable of running their country. Then we invade and claim them as slaves to work on our cotton plantations...
Actually, I'm starting to think there may be some hypocrisy involved in my plan.
I'd be quite happy giving the BNP their own little sceptred isle. A place where they can all fuck off to so the rest of us can leave in peace and harmony with anyone we want regardless of their racial background.
St. Kilda? South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands? Rockall?
St. Kilda? South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands? Rockall?