The same probably counts for that poll. Fact is, even though miss Croft is all bimbo-like, she pretty much paved the way for the powerful female lead, despite Metroid being an older franchise.seekeroftruth86 said:
The Boss Deserved Better
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You know, it may be all about how we can project ourselves onto characters that define them for us. Characters like Wander and MC are very easily defined subjectively, rather than on their own literary merits, and that makes it more significant when we do define them.
Some characters, however, seem to use that as an excuse for poor writing (i.e. Bella from Twilight).
I believe there's a thread on that subject...
Some characters, however, seem to use that as an excuse for poor writing (i.e. Bella from Twilight).
I believe there's a thread on that subject...
Well, both the Master Chief and the Boss are poorly written characters, so I'm surprised that either of them were on the list at all.
Oh, it's a Gaming Magazine? That explains it.
Oh, it's a Gaming Magazine? That explains it.
its about popularity. i walk into some random gamers' room and ask them, "Hey, you know who The Boss is?" they'd be all "is that a guy from some show about the mafia?" you'd be like "no! geez! she's from MGS3! a video game!" and they'd reply, "oh. the only video game character i know is master chief."
yeah, i would definitely say he defined a decade.
yeah, i would definitely say he defined a decade.
I don't think the OP actually read the title of the article, or didn't understand it, but it says "30 Characters That Defined a Decade". Maybe you read it as "30 BEST CHARACTERS, EVER, OF ALL TIME".
Master Chief and GLaDOS define the gdecade as what it was. Master Chief was the nearly silent protagonist that helped bridge the gap for counter-strike, half-life playing PC FPS players to consoles. Games like Call of Duty and Battlefield Bad Company 2 wouldn't be the console juggernauts that they are weren't it for Master Chief.
GLaDOS defined the slapstick, random humor of the decade. Without GlaDOS the game would have been memorable, despite the puzzles. However, the puzzles opened doors for puzzle games that take relatively simple concepts and expand them to mind-bending levels. Games like Braid and Super Meat Boy wouldn't near the amount of popularity if the puzzle genre didn't get the spotlight from GLaDOS and Portal.
What did The Boss do? The Boss offered a tragic story in a series of games that were already known for equally tragic things before the decade. The only thing The Boss did was raise the bar for other Metal Gear games.
Master Chief and GLaDOS define the gdecade as what it was. Master Chief was the nearly silent protagonist that helped bridge the gap for counter-strike, half-life playing PC FPS players to consoles. Games like Call of Duty and Battlefield Bad Company 2 wouldn't be the console juggernauts that they are weren't it for Master Chief.
GLaDOS defined the slapstick, random humor of the decade. Without GlaDOS the game would have been memorable, despite the puzzles. However, the puzzles opened doors for puzzle games that take relatively simple concepts and expand them to mind-bending levels. Games like Braid and Super Meat Boy wouldn't near the amount of popularity if the puzzle genre didn't get the spotlight from GLaDOS and Portal.
What did The Boss do? The Boss offered a tragic story in a series of games that were already known for equally tragic things before the decade. The only thing The Boss did was raise the bar for other Metal Gear games.
Well although you have to admit that the Halo series was very influential on video games, I don't really think Master Chief as a character was that influential. Now I don't know why they put him there, maybe they had a good reason, but he wasn't much of a character. More of just a vessel for players to put themselves in. The same could be said for Gorden Freeman, maybe Link and Mario as well (although those two maybe not). None of them display much in the way of character, and they weren't really ground breaking in and of themselves. Sure the series are some of the most popular out there and the characters are iconic, but I'm sure there are others from their respective series that are much better characters in and of themselves.
So I have to agree with the OP, Master Chief shouldn't be so high up on a list of the most influential characters of video games. I could see Halo being high up on the list of most influential video games, but Master Chief isn't that interesting of a character.
So I have to agree with the OP, Master Chief shouldn't be so high up on a list of the most influential characters of video games. I could see Halo being high up on the list of most influential video games, but Master Chief isn't that interesting of a character.
If you define impacting a decade as being one of the most recognizable characters created in recent times then Master Chief should be farther ahead of The Boss. Yeah, lots of people who like games know of The Boss but my mother has never touched a console in her life and she recognizes Master Chief.
The Halo series is one of the definitive series of our time, Master Chief is practically as eponymous as Sonic or Luigi (not Mario yet, but close). You may not like the games or the character but they have had more impact (affecting how other shooters are designed, being instantly recognizable) then MGS has regardless of your personal preference.
The Halo series is one of the definitive series of our time, Master Chief is practically as eponymous as Sonic or Luigi (not Mario yet, but close). You may not like the games or the character but they have had more impact (affecting how other shooters are designed, being instantly recognizable) then MGS has regardless of your personal preference.
As poorly written as they are, this has nothing to do with defining a decade (actually, it kind of does). Double Rainbow guy is more recognized than so many much more important people. This says a lot about the time in which we live in.katsumoto03 said:
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On a side note, this thread should be used to define this decade. Without even reading what the list is about, people have jumped to conclusions and voiced their opinions that are unrelated to the actual subject matter.
I did not think that the list was from best to least. I thought that it was just a list of the best characters, in no particular order.
^This. I was going to say exactly this, it's saying how much these characters impacted the decade. Arguably, Master Chief and the subsequent Halo games have impacted the FPS genre to the point were everything began to model it. For this reason alone, Master Chief most certainly has a bigger impact (although not a better back-story or history) than Boss.Treeinthewoods said:
Remember those "Worlds of Power" books? My favorite was Blaster Master. Now THAT's what I call plotting and characterization!Fronzel said: