The British Accent - A lesson on ignorance.

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Cmwissy

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Hope Chest said:



Look at a globe, or an atlas; you see the little lines dividing up the place? That's because they're separate countries

Answer me, right now - do you think Britain, or the UK is a country?

Or better yet - look at the Wikipedia articles on said countries; they are countries, not regions, states or provinces, they are countries regardless of government.

You're grouping up four countries and calling them the same


I mean, sure--there's an issue here. But to call people "ignorant" because they disagree with you? Especially when you don't even know how the governments of the countries you're talking about work?
Yes, anyone who calls four countries the same and think Britain is a country is ignorant.


Britain, or the UK - Is not a country

Regardless of government.
 

thepj

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ennit joost, oop nurth they speek in very diffortant accent. boot we doont ool weere falt-caps and moine for cool noo, weera very divoorse folk wit' a reeche culturaltadooshun
 

forty_licks

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I'm from Surrey.

I love my BBC accent.

I do not Believe the "r"'s and unnecessary, as I am currently living in Bath. I have this conversation frequently.


But I do get a bit annoyed at being said to have a British accent, when you wouldn't say someone with a Scottish accent had a British one, when technically they do.
 

Ph0t0n1c Ph34r

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M4rsch said:
Gee this is true for virtually any accent/dialect.

US is different because they don't really have those. They only got Texanian Cowboys and Mississipi wankers.
Surely you jest sir? You have the clean cut Middewest accent, Michigan's Yoppee, Philedelphia, Boston and New York (plus Brooklyn and Queens), California ( North AND South) Alaskan and te numerous Hawain accents. Lots of different accents. just cause the only accents you hear at the cinema is Midwestern dosnt mean it's the only one.
 

Susan Arendt

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*shrug* Same could be said of American accents. Seems like someone trying to sound "American" defaults to Brooklyn or Tennessee. I assure you, we don't all sound like that.
 

TheGreenManalishi

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Loop Stricken said:
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I wish I was more brummy than I currently am.
Oh Lord, you do not. Not unless you want to be instantly assumed to be an idiot.
Where I presently live, in Somerset near Taunton, I hear almost every accent from around the country, except the native familiar West Midlands accent I long to hear more often. It would also help distinguish me from the people I associate with, who all tend to talk the same.
 

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If I may just stick my head back in and say "Ohai", I think *British Accent* may now be a generic term for any one of 200+ accents that are notable in the British Isles. I have one, it's awesome ^^' until I start supporting Australia in the Ashes. GO AUSSIE!
 

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Cmwissy said:
Insanum said:

The point was that people think Britain is a country.
...It is. It is a combination of smaller countries. The UK Includes NI, But Britain is England, Scotland & Wales.

Although the americans will class a Scottish accent as a scottish accent, a british accent as an English accent, A welsh accent...No idea.
 

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Cmwissy said:
Xanian said:
It's British because it comes from Britain...so while there are many, it still falls under the same flag, now doesn't it.

All countries have a plethora of accents...huzzah.
You have an Earth-accent.

See how that doesn't make sense?
If we could prove there was life on other planets, or started colonizing Mars, it would probably make a lot of sense when a person from mars and a person from earth talk to each other.

Though, if you really want me to "Not make a fool of myself" by recognizing and categorizing every accent I hear coming from the mouths of Europeans, I expect you to do the same for me. Tell me the difference between a Washington and an Idaho accent. Get ready, cause you've got 50 states worth of accents to learn(yes, I've been to most of them now, and the natives of those states all speak differently)!

or...

we could just use accepted generalized terms, like "British accent" or "American accent" and realize that we aren't saying that all people from these areas sound the same, but that your accent originates from said area.
 

Cmwissy

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Hope Chest said:
I can find you maps with lines dividing up the U.S.: does that mean the U.S. is fifty countries?
Really? I don't have that on my map; just a little yellow line, instead of the big bold one I was obviously talking about - you witty, witty person.



Sure, NOW you say regardless of government--when you didn't know the facts, you were singing a different tune.

Which...would be fine: none of us know it all. However, if you're going to go around calling people ignorant, you should at least know enough about the subject you're talking about not to make a gross error like that.
Yes, I was wrong - many apologies.


So? Why shouldn't we? We group Indian Tribal Reservations and the States together as the country of 'America'.
Are these 'Indian Tribal Reservations' formal countries attached to the US? - No, Didn't think so.

Britain/the UK is a country that is a collection of smaller countries. It's that simple.
I can say, safely, without any moral or fear of being suspended, that you are an idiot.

It's a sovereign state, a political alliance, not a 'country made of smaller countries' (are there even such things?)

Honestly, is it not common knowledge that Britain/the UK is not a country?

What kind of person are you?, all I can think of is Miss Texas calling Europe a country.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_state.

Honestly, wtf dude, I thought you had some sense about you until

Britain/the UK is a country that is a collection of smaller countries
Honestly...


jboking said:
BRITAIN ISN'T A COUNTRY - THE US IS.

Insanum said:
Honestly - all of you... just.

 

ryukage_sama

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Cmwissy, when your government stops telling the rest of the world that Britain is fact a real, existing geographical region with a shared unified, government, a common currency, a common figurehead and political leadership, then I will stop referring to the landmass which includes England, Scotland, and Wales as Britain and those therein as British. Tell me what word describes someone or something from the anywhere in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland (Kingdomian?, Utiking?, United?), and I will consider expanding my vocabulary.
 

Cmwissy

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ryukage_sama said:
Cmwissy, when your government stops telling the rest of the world that Britain is fact a real, existing geographical region with a shared unified, government, a common currency, a common figurehead and political leadership, then I will stop referring to the landmass which includes England, Scotland, and Wales as Britain and those therein as British. Tell me what word describes someone or something from the anywhere in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland (Kingdomian?, Utiking?, United?), and I will consider expanding my vocabulary.
It is a real, existing geographical region with a shared unified, government, a common currency, a common figurehead and political leadership, but It isn't a country; It's made up of several.

Just like some parts of Europe or in somewhat the UN.

Refer to them as British, I do not care; however don't think that Britain is a country and England/Scotland/Wales/Ireland as 'states, regions, or sections'.


EDIT: I never had a problem with the term British, however, stereotyping four countries to one accent, country and culture; is... how do I say this bluntly yet eloquently...Retarded.
 

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Yea it does seem kinda like some people are quick to judge accents. I have a Scottish accent (apparently - I can't tell myself) but the first thing people say when I talk over a headset or anything is "are you Irish? That sounds like the accent".

But sadly accent laziness is part of Britain too - I had a guy from England picking a fight with me after I wiped out his team twice in search and destroy on modern warfare 2. He accused me of camping (when I killed his team in 3 seperate buildings, go figure...) and attacked my "yankee accent and connection giving me an unfair advantage"

+1 ignorance for not being able to tell an accent from just over the border