The contrast between drug effects and advertised effects

[Aesir23]

While I myself have never taken any drugs (and I don't plan to except for Ritalin, but I have ADD so that's needed), when my Mother was young she had tried Cocaine. She told me it made her feel very paranoid and she basically spent the entire time sitting in a corner.

My next door neighbour was addicted to some crazy stuff for a long time. My brother and I have talked to him about it but never too in depth. Though he does have scars all over his arms from scratching himself up while he was high.

You do realise that ritalin is a methamphetamine analogue yeah? Chucking ritalin at kids who have 'ADD' bothers me. Drugging them up as opposed to teaching them how to focus. Positive change always comes from within.

Yeah, I know. Which is why I said "except for Ritalin."

I started taking Ritalin for my ADD in third grade because I guess my ADD was pretty out of control but my former teacher said she noticed a big improvement after I started taking it. I still take it because if I go without it then my mind is distracted by every little noise (such as talking) and I simply can't concentrate on what's in front of me. Which makes it very hard to do schoolwork.

 

[Susano]

Ketamine is fun and cheap but can be dark if you fall in the k-hole, it's the strongest hallucinogenic I've ever had (Stronger than acid or 'shrooms) though it doesn't last too long. Last time I went there I was seeing in TRON vision, blue outlines on everything that glowed in response to sound.

No.
Just no.
Sorry that I may be biased from personal experience, but my sis had ketamine for an operation (it's horse tranquilizer). She was basically "high" for about a week. Then when it wore off, 3 seizures in a row and then a coma for 4 hours. We thought she was going to die. when she woke up the entire of the left side of her body was unresponsive. Now she has epilepisy which she never had before and her brain is deteriorating. So 'cause of this, Ketamine is the only one I really have a problem with. ^^

 

[ADarkHorse]

Ketamine is fun and cheap but can be dark if you fall in the k-hole, it's the strongest hallucinogenic I've ever had (Stronger than acid or 'shrooms) though it doesn't last too long. Last time I went there I was seeing in TRON vision, blue outlines on everything that glowed in response to sound.

No.
Just no.
Sorry that I may be biased from personal experience, but my sis had ketamine for an operation (it's horse tranquilizer). She was basically "high" for about a week. Then when it wore off, 3 seizures in a row and then a coma for 4 hours. We thought she was going to die. when she woke up the entire of the left side of her body was unresponsive. Now she has epilepisy which she never had before and her brain is deteriorating. So 'cause of this, Ketamine is the only one I really have a problem with. ^^

I'm sorry for your sister, that sounds horrible.
A recreational dose would be much smaller, weaker than liquid form and you'd normally sweat it out in about 30 minutes to an hour, though I understand and respect your stance.

 

[Susano]

Ketamine is fun and cheap but can be dark if you fall in the k-hole, it's the strongest hallucinogenic I've ever had (Stronger than acid or 'shrooms) though it doesn't last too long. Last time I went there I was seeing in TRON vision, blue outlines on everything that glowed in response to sound.

No.
Just no.
Sorry that I may be biased from personal experience, but my sis had ketamine for an operation (it's horse tranquilizer). She was basically "high" for about a week. Then when it wore off, 3 seizures in a row and then a coma for 4 hours. We thought she was going to die. when she woke up the entire of the left side of her body was unresponsive. Now she has epilepisy which she never had before and her brain is deteriorating. So 'cause of this, Ketamine is the only one I really have a problem with. ^^

I'm sorry for your sister, that sounds horrible.
A recreational dose would be much smaller, weaker than liquid form and you'd normally sweat it out in about 30 minutes to an hour, though I understand and respect your stance.

Ok I guess. Admittedly they did mix it with other anesthetics, I'm just saying I'd never touch the stuff.

 

[gravitron89]

Ketamine is fun and cheap but can be dark if you fall in the k-hole, it's the strongest hallucinogenic I've ever had (Stronger than acid or 'shrooms) though it doesn't last too long. Last time I went there I was seeing in TRON vision, blue outlines on everything that glowed in response to sound.

No.
Just no.
Sorry that I may be biased from personal experience, but my sis had ketamine for an operation (it's horse tranquilizer). She was basically "high" for about a week. Then when it wore off, 3 seizures in a row and then a coma for 4 hours. We thought she was going to die. when she woke up the entire of the left side of her body was unresponsive. Now she has epilepisy which she never had before and her brain is deteriorating. So 'cause of this, Ketamine is the only one I really have a problem with. ^^

What kind of surgery was it if she was on ketamine for a whole week?

 

[Hattman]

Just to everyone: Last time I checked salvia isn't illegal.

 

[SmartIdiot]

Most advertised effects of drugs are made by people who have never tried them. This would annoy me, except it's funny when you see someone try something for the first time and they're not quite sure how to behave. I've seen people smoke a joint and think they're hallucinating, taking pills and dance non-stop (even when there's no music... although that's not uncommon) and take cocaine then turn into an motormouth with a giant ego (despite not actually feeling that way when I speak to them).

As a rule, I don't take chemical drugs anymore, I need a clear head right now. However I have tried...

Cannabis: Who hasn't? Seriously, who hasn't? I'm certain that 99% of the earths population has tried this. It's a good, fun thing to do. This is the one thing I still do, I'd say to all those who haven't tried it (if any of you exist) it's akin to sitting next to the fireplace in winter with a glass of wine. It's relaxing and in higher doses makes you hungry and tired, no one should have to apologise for that.

Ecstacy: Again, many people have done this. It's great fun with the right people, sometimes an overwhelming sense of empathy depending on the kind of batch you get and how many you take. Tendency for ridiculously introspective conversations at higher doses, keeps you awake for a day or 2, otherwise pretty much harmless. The comedown varies from person to person. Personally I just can't hack it anymore, that and the last time I took ecstacy I did a couple of very stupid things which I'll save for another time...

Cocaine: MOST OVER-RATED DRUG EVER. I would have to say out of everything I've tried, cocaine is the worst. No I didn't develop a problem and live on the street for a while, if I did I'd have something to write about. Cocaine is shit. You take it, gets you high for 10 minutes/half an hour, becomes moreish(note:moreish not addictive) so you take more until the stash is used up. Taking it all night leads to a lot of hot air about nothing followed by nosebleeds then a comedown period of about 6 hours feeling 'meh'. Over-rated, too expensive, why do people have problems with this one?

Magic mushrooms: Great laugh, recommended to take with a friend. I saw a post earlier on stating the giggles you get at lower doses, yep, I was laughing for about an hour once. It is more like an active kind of stoned. However if you sit still and just watch things it's quite a dreamy feeling. Had a couple of bad experiences with them, though that was most likely a result of personal problems I had at the time that didn't aid the trip in any way. As previously mentioned, good idea to take with someone else.

Speed: What can I say? Motormouth syndrome again and a very tidy house afterwards. Speed is like an intense and focused hit of caffeine that makes you get shit done and talk at 100mph while you're doing it. Not bad, I can say out of all the powdered things I've tried I felt least lousy after this one.

Think that's about it for the moment.

 

[Zykon TheLich]

On the other hand, your description of what heroin does for you is fascinating. Did you feel that way from the first time you did it? Is that achievable through smoking alone, or is IV use required? Also, with the drugs that you don't seem so enthused about, is it possible that you were given an over-hyped impression of them, but not of heroin? Or is it just that it is THAT good? Did you try them after you did heroin? Lots of questions.

I think the whole thing was Russel Brand, read his next post, there's no mention of heroin:

Oh I thought I would add. I have taken magic mushrooms, lsd, lsa, mdma, methylone, valium, weed codeine, sleeping tablets, NOS, speed, ketamine, mescaline and a large handful of legals.

also:

SNIP
The best way to answer your question (reading between the lines a bit and judging by your list) is by directing you to someone who has said it much better than I ever could.

"Ever since the first couple of times i'd taken it in my early twenties, I'd always maintained a great interest in heroin. SNIP etc

I could answer all your questons, but not on an open forum.

 

[FallenJellyDoughnut]

I don't have to take coke or heroin to know its gonna fuck you up, though having said that the amount of stuff you hear about weed and LSD is just stupid, their both mostly harmless and in my case have even benefited me.

Lol I could make a joke involving the major mispelling of most of the last words which implied that it is a result of the drugs you were taking therefore disproving your belief but it would be corny, so I will say this: Boobs.

 

[DazZ.]

I'm not going to go into a massive list of everything I've tried, but had no bad experiences at all. Except skatting out because a bouncer started questioning me about what I'd taken, all was right in the end though.

Every experience was nothing at all like what school or anyone had said about drugs in the past, but as I was messing about with people who had done before so I got a detailed explanation of exactly what it was like, then if it sounded all right gave it a go.

Only time I had something that sucked was after clubbing till 7 in the morning, coming home and then just wanting to carry on partying, which me and my flatmates did for about an hour, then I attempted to sleep all day but all I could think of was dancing. All my dreams were really real and as if I was still in the club, kept waking up and going "oh I'm home".
I had taken way more than I should have though.

Also remember dancing about thinking "my fucking god, I feel seriously amazing, I could get addicted to this", some reason that didn't bother me and I just carried on happily without sketching out.
I've never done the drug since and don't feel the need to, I was just curious to what it was like, same as most drugs and I don't feel the need to do any any more because I'm happy enough with the experiences I've gained that I can talk about the subject and know what I'm on about, instead of people who just go "drug users are idiots".