The curious case of Devil May Cry

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The Catalyst

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Durxom said:
Lt_Bromhead said:
Dark2003 said:
Word - I don't think Devil May Cry 2 was a bad game. It just had to follow on from pure awesome.
Well at least DMC2 added some awesome stuff to the series, such as Bloody Palace, Twosome Time, Fireworks and some other stuff.
Was "Million Stab" in the second one?
 

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I played all the DMC games except 2 (cause i heard it was shit). I recently went back to playing DMC 1 and realized its unplayable now after playing DMC 3 and 4 so much. No matter how long i stuck with it to try and re-learn the old controls, it was just so stiff and rigid, I couldn't stand it.
And I would like to say that I liked Nero. I thought his gameplay was very well done. Dante is of course no slouch and they finally allowed you to change styles and weapons on the fly, which was my biggest problem with DMC 3 (aside from the fact i would have had to rebuy the game in order to play as Vergil)

In a nutshell, i wouldn't touch DMC 1 anymore despite its nostalgia factor. DMC 3 and 4 is where its at now. One thing is for sure though, Devil May Cry 5 better have Vergil in it. We need some ice cold badassedry in order to chase Dante's witty and cocky badassedry.


Still can't beat DMC 3 on Dante Must Die...i feel so worthless.
 

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People argued that DMC3 wasn't the best? I'm shocked!

But please, this is a stupid thread. Best game is an opinion and I"ve known peope who thought DMC2 was the msot fun. YEs. Can't account fr taste. DMC3 as the best installment is not set in stone and can't be while humanity exists.
 

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The Catalyst said:
Durxom said:
Lt_Bromhead said:
Dark2003 said:
Word - I don't think Devil May Cry 2 was a bad game. It just had to follow on from pure awesome.
Well at least DMC2 added some awesome stuff to the series, such as Bloody Palace, Twosome Time, Fireworks and some other stuff.
Was "Million Stab" in the second one?
No, that was still DMC3 I believe...forgot another 1, DMC2 was the game that introduced Rebellion as Dante's Sword

On another note, I hate how they made MvC3's Dante wear his DMC3 outfit. I liked Dante's style in that game, I like his personality...I hated his outfit, and his stupid man bra...I wanted his sexy cowboy outfit..
 

Lt_Bromhead

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Plurralbles said:
People argued that DMC3 wasn't the best? I'm shocked!

But please, this is a stupid thread. Best game is an opinion and I"ve known peope who thought DMC2 was the msot fun. YEs. Can't account fr taste. DMC3 as the best installment is not set in stone and can't be while humanity exists.
I know... This is an oppinion thread. Was seeing if there was anyone else who had the same oppinion. Wasn't trying to convert anyone...
 

Lt_Bromhead

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Durxom said:
The Catalyst said:
Durxom said:
Lt_Bromhead said:
Dark2003 said:
Word - I don't think Devil May Cry 2 was a bad game. It just had to follow on from pure awesome.
Well at least DMC2 added some awesome stuff to the series, such as Bloody Palace, Twosome Time, Fireworks and some other stuff.
Was "Million Stab" in the second one?
No, that was still DMC3 I believe...forgot another 1, DMC2 was the game that introduced Rebellion as Dante's Sword

On another note, I hate how they made MvC3's Dante wear his DMC3 outfit. I liked Dante's style in that game, I like his personality...I hated his outfit, and his stupid man bra...I wanted his sexy cowboy outfit..
Got to say, I think the DMC4 outfit was the best. But it only works with the character model, because they beefed up his shoulders a bit. His previous incarnations are all too thin and spindly to handle such an epic costume.
 

The Catalyst

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Durxom said:
The Catalyst said:
Durxom said:
Lt_Bromhead said:
Dark2003 said:
Word - I don't think Devil May Cry 2 was a bad game. It just had to follow on from pure awesome.
Well at least DMC2 added some awesome stuff to the series, such as Bloody Palace, Twosome Time, Fireworks and some other stuff.
Was "Million Stab" in the second one?
No, that was still DMC3 I believe...forgot another 1, DMC2 was the game that introduced Rebellion as Dante's Sword
Which was the best thing to come out of the second installment...
 

rokkolpo

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DMC3 special edition!

why yes i do get gay for vergil why'd you ask? (i want him back in 5 and they could do it, timeline is bananas)

anyways haven't played the other games but have gathered enough info to agree with most people here and say 3-1-4-2 (just like the screwed up timeline)
 

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i played 2 first so i actually thought it was a good game then i played the other games and i realized that they fucked up but still it was fun to play, but i would say 3, 4, 1, 2
3.cause it was well awesome as hell
4.cause it had great damn visuals all new combos and gampeplay and it was just fun
1.cause it was the original so it didnt know where it was going yet
2.dante is just a serious dick, not funny or cocky just serious and dickish
 

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DMC1 is really the only true DMC to me. I'm not really sure why, but it's the one I enjoyed most.

The rest all diverged from the original story too much and, as the games went on, Dante became more and more of a prick.

In the first, Dante was just an overconfident tosser with some mommy issues and that made him easy to relate to. Sort of like the Prince from Prince of Persia. Sure, he's a bit of a prick, but he's like that because he has parental issues and is pretty much searching for himself.

In all the others, he was either a blank slate of cardboard (2) or an extremely overconfident dickhole who's extremely hard to like (3)
 

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Lt_Bromhead said:
I've been a DMC fan for quite a while. However, I feel I may be running against the common grain in my oppinion of the series simply becasue of which one I feel is the best game overall.

Many self-styled hardcore DMC fans believe the first one is the best and most definitive game in the series, by a combination of gameplay, characterisation and other such factors.

In my oppinion, however, DMC 3 should claim the title of the best game in the series. Don't get me wrong, 1 was a kick-ass game, but I think 3 just clips it. Let's not forget, however, that the fourth one would have been in with a good chance if only Nero had been omitted from the game. All the best bits of the previous games with a few nice extras thrown in (ability to switch styles at will, for example).

I can't be the only one that thinks the games are thus, in ascending order of awesome;
Two, Four, One, Three.
Uhh, actually it's the common opinion among DMC fans that DMC3 genuinely is the best in the series. Almost nobody debates that. While DMC1 was pretty good and has the quintessential storyline of the bunch, both its story and its mechanics are pretty darn clumsy due to its being a really early PS2 game. DMC3 is widely regarded as having perfected the formula, developing further on the style-based combo system, incorporating different play-styles and skill-sets into Dante's lineup as well as different weapons, and showcasing far superior cinematic direction, voice acting, and overall storytelling. It's not exactly an epic masterpiece as far as writing goes, but it's damn fun and manages to have a fair amount of emotional sway to it as the player learns about Dante's struggle with his twin brother. It's also technically the first game in the series chronologically.

DMC2 is the curious one, because it wasn't even developed by the proper Devil May Cry team. Series creator Hideki Kamiya et al had absolutely nothing to do with it; Capcom put a different group on it and didn't even tell them there was a Devil May Cry 2 in development until release, hence why it just straight-up sucked.

DMC4... is a bit unnecessary. Nero brought with him a lot of interesting mechanics, Dante's new weapons are awesome, the bosses were top notch, but the story just wasn't there as much as it was in 1 and 3 and nobody really liked Nero's "rescue the princess" scenario. It didn't help that the second half of the game is basically just the first half in reverse. Lazy.

My order from least to best is DMC2, DMC1, DMC4, and DMC3, personally, but that's mostly because 4 has the most familiarly Devil May Cry gameplay elements for me.

Infernai said:
I agree that i believe Devil may cry 3 to be the best of the series, Devil may cry 1 came in second, after that was Devil may cry 2. Number 4...kinda felt more like an expansion/mission pack rather then an entire new game to me. They could have done ALOT more then they did, and what did we get? Repeated bosses, repeated levels, and...oh yeah, we have to fight those bosses AGAIN just to get to the last boss.

On that note, if you are all curious about where devil may cry 5 went...well, Capcom is afraid of making money and a game that would sell like hotcakes, so we won't see it for a while. Until then, we have to make do with him fighting deadpool in marvel vs capcom 3.

Belladonnah said:
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Best DMC game is Bayonetta.
crudus said:
Best DMC ripoff. Still an awesome game regardless.
How is it a ripoff if its made by the same Director/Creator of the first Devil May Cry? Is the Metal Gear Rising a Metal Gear Solid ripoff? Is Warcraft 3 a ripoff of Starcraft?
-_- Bayonetta is never allowed to be mentioned Alongside Devil may cry...EVER, you hear me? While gameplay is similiar, they are in essence two different games, set in two different universes, set with two different characters...and the BIGGEST two differences: One fights angels, one fights demons. And one fells the need to be stripperiffic to get our attention and have us play the fucking thing, the other is just pure unfiltered badass.

And yes, Metal gear Rising is ripping off Metal gear solid and Warcraft 3 ripped off starcraft!
Nooo, Metal Gear Solid Rising is a completely different game with a completely different type of action, and StarCraft's game mechanics were derived from Warcraft 1 and 2.

Bayonetta, while kind of sort of similar to DMC, uses Las Vegas burlesque shows as its inspiration for game mechanics where DMC tends more towards extreme sports; where DMC is about performing strings of tricks and is sort of like the Tony Hawk of action games, Bayonetta is about choreography and building spectacle and trying to finish every single foe off in the most extravagant manner possible. It's not even a terribly subtle difference given the huge difference in the two games' weapon schemes. DMC: Two swords, two guns, one style for support, flip between weapons on-the-go. Straightforward, plain. Bayonetta: Mix and match weapons on arms and legs, corresponding to punch/kick type moves (light/heavy attacks).

Every weapon significantly alters the moveset it's attached to, creating a huge mixture of potential combos from just two decisions and in turn significantly altering the way you move and choreograph attacks. While it's not very straightforward in terms of fighting style and, yes, Bayonetta is a FAR more obnoxious character, and, yes, the story of Bayonetta is COMPLETE nonsense, and, yes, the heavy/light attack scheme is lifted straight out of Ninja Gaiden and God of War before it (albeit with a BIG twist), I can guarantee you that Bayonetta, like all of Kamiya's works except Devil May Cry, is a game the likes of which you've never seen before and will never, ever see again. I suggest you learn to appreciate that.
 

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NickCaligo42 said:
Lt_Bromhead said:
-_- Bayonetta is never allowed to be mentioned Alongside Devil may cry...EVER, you hear me? While gameplay is similiar, they are in essence two different games, set in two different universes, set with two different characters...and the BIGGEST two differences: One fights angels, one fights demons. And one fells the need to be stripperiffic to get our attention and have us play the fucking thing, the other is just pure unfiltered badass.

And yes, Metal gear Rising is ripping off Metal gear solid and Warcraft 3 ripped off starcraft!
Nooo, Metal Gear Solid Rising is a completely different game with a completely different type of action, and StarCraft's game mechanics were derived from Warcraft 1 and 2.

Bayonetta, while kind of sort of similar to DMC, uses Las Vegas burlesque shows as its inspiration for game mechanics where DMC tends more towards extreme sports; where DMC is about performing strings of tricks and is sort of like the Tony Hawk of action games, Bayonetta is about choreography and building spectacle and trying to finish every single foe off in the most extravagant manner possible. It's not even a terribly subtle difference given the huge difference in the two games' weapon schemes. DMC: Two swords, two guns, one style for support, flip between weapons on-the-go. Straightforward, plain. Bayonetta: Mix and match weapons on arms and legs, corresponding to punch/kick type moves (light/heavy attacks).

Every weapon significantly alters the moveset it's attached to, creating a huge mixture of potential combos from just two decisions and in turn significantly altering the way you move and choreograph attacks. While it's not very straightforward in terms of fighting style and, yes, Bayonetta is a FAR more obnoxious character, and, yes, the story of Bayonetta is COMPLETE nonsense, and, yes, the heavy/light attack scheme is lifted straight out of Ninja Gaiden and God of War before it (albeit with a BIG twist), I can guarantee you that Bayonetta, like all of Kamiya's works except Devil May Cry, is a game the likes of which you've never seen before and will never, ever see again. I suggest you learn to appreciate that.
Ok, final time, the Rising/warcraft comment at the end was meant as sarcasm, not to self: Edit the post. Thats my fault, don't worry, i admit its not easy to tell sarcasm when typed.

Ok, second of all, I never really said i hated the game play of bayonetta, its actually got interesting gameplay. Fucking hate its lead character, its plot is stupid etc etc, but gameplay is rather alright, I agree with that.

What i will not allow, is it being compared with Devil may Cry: Reason being that, sure some similarities exist between them, but you can't really compare them because they are TWO DIFFERENT GAMES.

Finally, I am allowed to hate what i wish. Never said the guy who made it was bad, and i know for a fact your not beating my door down saying "YOU MUST LIKE THIS OR DIE", but i don't like bayonetta..simple as that, and i have nothing against anyone who does like it. Again, just don't think it really can be compared that much to devil may cry.
 

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Damn, people really love DMC3:SE...Well thanks to my computer that it was fun to crash onthe same day i bought the DMC3:SE and will i was mourning my computer my little brother decided that this round and frisbe look a like object would be a perfect frisbe. ARGH! The scratches!WHY!?...Erm... Ohh and my little brother mystersiely vanished that day...>.>
 
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crudus said:
Lokk if you don't want to do it fair enough. I know you obviously didn't enjoy the parts with Nero. Although I really don't see why it would feel like 5-8 hours especially when you could be doing it in about half that. If you don't want to do it fair enough but it is worth playing Dante.
 

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Haven't played the first one. I introduced myself to the series at 2. I don't think it's gotten much love here but I felt it was an awesome game, and it had something that 3 and 4 lacked.

From worst to best
4, 2, 3.
I'll reserve my judgment of 1 til I play it.