The Escapist Presents: Senior Creative Director, EA BioWare Keynote

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Senior Creative Director, EA BioWare Keynote

Paul Barnett, Senior Creative Director of EA BioWare shares some thoughts on game development and the golden ages of gaming.

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Bigeyez

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Funny and pretty informative. All in all I thought it was a great segment he did there. Awesome accent too. Thumbs up.
 

InsanityRequiem

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I personally enjoyed how he covered a lot of things in his discussion of gaming. Though the ending made me laugh good.
 

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um...were you guys watching the same thing I was? because all I saw was a guy pacing back and forth going on about some drivel and misusing analogy. seriously this guy is the Creative Director? he sounds like one of those "give me money and ill tell you the secret of happiness" con men.
no wonder they got problems over there...
 

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Interesting, but I think he was trying too hard to be entertaining. I won't say he didn't make me chuckle a few times, but I guess I was hoping for something more nuts and bolts of game design. Nothing I haven't already heard before and better from Extra Credits.
 

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Wow, did no one catch the part were he basically said he didn't care whether or not the consumer like his games? He says that unless your in the game making business your opinion doesn't matter to him, and he specifically says your opinion about the ME3 ending doesn't matter to him. He says this stuff around minute three.
 

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TheVioletBandit said:
Wow, did no one catch the part were he basically said he didn't care whether or not the consumer like his games? He says that unless your in the game making business your opinion doesn't matter to him, and he specifically says your opinion about the ME3 ending doesn't matter to him. He says this stuff around minute three.
oh yeah I saw that, as I mentioned he sounds more like a con man or spin doctor rather than someone who makes games (I know he's only one man but he is the creative director) and entirely wrapped up in himself

Eric Morales said:
Interesting, but I think he was trying too hard to be entertaining. I won't say he didn't make me chuckle a few times, but I guess I was hoping for something more nuts and bolts of game design. Nothing I haven't already heard before and better from Extra Credits.
well im glad he hit your chuckle buttons (and i mean it, I'm not being sarcastic :) ) but yeah I wanted something with at least some substance, instead we got drone drone drone...
 

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TheVioletBandit said:
Wow, did no one catch the part were he basically said he didn't care whether or not the consumer like his games? He says that unless your in the game making business your opinion doesn't matter to him, and he specifically says your opinion about the ME3 ending doesn't matter to him. He says this stuff around minute three.
EA is the anti-Valve. You can't be a high-ranking EA officer and still care for customers.
 

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zellosoli said:
oh yeah I saw that, as I mentioned he sounds more like a con man or spin doctor rather than someone who makes games (I know he's only one man but he is the creative director) and entirely wrapped up in himself
Thats because he IS a con man and thats why they kept him around even after axing the entirety of mythic.

He was pretty much the public face of Warhammer online and lied and spun to the people untill even the die hard fans wouldnt even believe him anymore.

He even went so far as to insult people as whiny bitches because people where not happy with the unbalanced classes. The fact that both factions aknowledged a severe inbalance with classes on both sides left them totaly cold because as he put it "they had the metrics to show that everything was allright"

Well we all know how Warhammer online turned out.

Its nutjobs like him that are the reason why Bioware and Co. detoriated from real artists to a studio that mass produces games with less and less quality.. and less and less "game" in it.
 

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This kind of behavior from game developers is extremely unsettling. It's okay for comedians to go onstage and insult every single person in their audience, but it's not for somebody who actually has to sell a product. Telling your customers that their opinions don't matter to you is not a way to make friends (and even bringing up ME3 should be an obvious bad idea). Way to PR, Bioware. Perhaps they ought to take a few pages out of the recently disseminated Valve Handbook in regards to customer relations.
 

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Eppy (Bored) said:
This kind of behavior from game developers is extremely unsettling. It's okay for comedians to go onstage and insult every single person in their audience, but it's not for somebody who actually has to sell a product. Telling your customers that their opinions don't matter to you is not a way to make friends (and even bringing up ME3 should be an obvious bad idea). Way to PR, Bioware. Perhaps they ought to take a few pages out of the recently disseminated Valve Handbook in regards to customer relations.
actually that's something I noticed and commented about before, in particular the developers response to criticism about AMY. it seems to be a current trend for developers (from the big names like EA and Activision to a few small Indi developers like Phil Fish, although that was more of tantrum but I think it relates) to react to criticism by (as I see it) attacking the general market, usually with insults, belittlement and just telling them that really their opinion doesn't matter (we make it and if you don't like it, your the one with the problem).
 

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I was kind of hoping the facebook comments were just pricks but this video has little reason to be on this site.

Was this guy trying to invoke more discussion about Fish but in a more properly placed manner?

He claims to be giving advice for Game devs but it is so much easier to watch Extra Credits for this advice.

Also this isn't EA buying Escapist ad space. This is something that the escapist thought would be nice to show us considering how much we love to complain about Bioware.
 

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Honestly it more sounds like HE does not care about non-game maker opinions, rather than the company as a whole.

Then again Bioware does not seem to care about what fans want either.
Because honestly...no one wanted to pay 60 dollars for a nice R/G/B color test on their tv/computers.
 

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I think you guys are taking him far too literally. It seemed obvious to me that he was being sarcastic and trying to be funny to a group of fellow industry people. It was a dude cracking in jokes with people in his fellow industries. I know people do the same at my workplace.
 

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He was also talking about being a game maker/developer, their interactions amongst themselves, and what their career choice is like. Not developer interaction with the consumer.

And if you even listened to the beginning, he even said he didn't like the ME3 ending.
 

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I actually want them to rip off and remake alot of old games. If we stay locked at 1080p on a 42" screen from 6-10 ft away for many years to come, I'd like them to remake some classics or games that were classic, but because of low-res textures or uncharmingly dated bitmap graphics. They're already doing it with games like Double Dragon and other games had long ago been eclipsed by newer and better version like Streets of Rage did with Final Fight. Now they just need a new Streets of Rage. Coming from the NES era (Vetrex and Calicovision were the first consoles I played not owned). Damn near anything above mediocre is amazing to me. I can marvel at how good Fallout 3 looks, then go to Crysis 2 and just get lost at looking at the graphical fidelity and wonder how difficult it would be to do that in Fallout. Mass Effect was great, I'll give him that, only the first JRPGs I played could compare, but the ending unfortunately didn't transcend the way the rest of the game did. I'm enjoying games more than ever this gen.

I don't find his keynote coherent really, but partially what I was getting out of it are that games are hard to make and in real life they are better than ever, even mobile games. Agreed on the parts I gleaned and I would stick up for Bioware, if only the caved and let the fans help them and completely change the ME3 ending.

He doesn't sound anti-fan exactly, but he's explaining how difficult it is to try to please everyone since gamers--people in general--have alot different trends more than anything, even if people stay relatively the same. And after the absolute end, I'm guessing he's calling out gamers who think they could do it better and COULD if they had the drive. He has a point. He's fine by me, but he needs to learn the difference between loving (though harsh) criticism and flat out hatin.
 

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TheVioletBandit said:
Wow, did no one catch the part were he basically said he didn't care whether or not the consumer like his games? He says that unless your in the game making business your opinion doesn't matter to him, and he specifically says your opinion about the ME3 ending doesn't matter to him. He says this stuff around minute three.
I caught that part when I saw "EA" in the headline. No real need to watch the video after you see that. Nobody at EA cares about the customer. Disc-locked content, online passes, server closures, Origin, single-player game bans, SecuROM, always-online DRM, and all the other evil things EA does to their customers in this industry should have been a big enough giveaway. They don't really need to admit it, although I suppose it's nice that this guy didn't lie about it.

Parshooter said:
He claims to be giving advice for Game devs but it is so much easier to watch Extra Credits for this advice.
People still watch Extra Credits? And furthermore, people would actually take anything they say seriously? I'd take Michael Pachter seriously before I took Extra Credits seriously. :|
 

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mjc0961 said:
Parshooter said:
He claims to be giving advice for Game devs but it is so much easier to watch Extra Credits for this advice.
People still watch Extra Credits? And furthermore, people would actually take anything they say seriously? I'd take Michael Pachter seriously before I took Extra Credits seriously. :|
How have Extra Credits offended you?