The First Pirate Bust Of 2009

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klc0100

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ChocoCake said:
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I honestly doubt its any were near 100% profit and just because the guys a pirate doesn't mean he's a burglar.
pigeon_of_doom said:
100% profit? Seeing the backup games are usually sold for very little I doubt he made a huge profit. Console chipping is usually done at a reasonable price too.

The guy isn't funding potentially violent criminal organisations or anything. Also I find it disgusting how the authorities made out they are protecting the consumer from "health dangers" or lack of quality control.
100% profit means that in his line of business, buying games, copying them, chipping 360s; he is making almost a complete profit. I am not saying 100% profit in that he is making millions of dollars, I am simply stating that he has almost no expense, only profit. But he is not making 100% entirely, as buying games and systems do come in effect.
When I think it through your right after he covers the cost of the original games and equipment he's swimming in green profit. £ that is not $ :p
 

Lord_Ascendant

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johnman said:
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what...the...

Well, that decides it then. I'm never going to the UK or any country that has more than 600 government thought police agencies.

EDIT: But I'm not supporting his Piracy. The guy is guilty. But I don't like the UK's spiderweb government, the way they control everything.
Oh and america doesnt? the country where someone only has to utter the word terrorism and problem solved?
Btw if you dont live in america then please ingore this. Sorry
You've somehow found a way to track me? Again? *rumbles* stupid tracking devise in my shoe....I'll have to incinerate them again.
 

pigeon_of_doom

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ChocoCake said:
100% profit means that in his line of business, buying games, copying them, chipping 360s; he is making almost a complete profit. I am not saying 100% profit in that he is making millions of dollars, I am simply stating that he has almost no expense, only profit. But he is not making 100% entirely, as buying games and systems do come in effect.
He still has plenty of expenses, the chips he needs to install cost a fair bit, discs, postage to customers etc. Of course not having to pay tax helps a bit. He wouldn't buy the games and rip them himself though, its all available for download.

I know far too much about this subject. I live in England too so I probably have these Organisations With Long Winded Names watching me through my telescreen for the next few months.
 

Samah

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Prior to the official raid, investigators set up a sting operation where they visited him to have their Xbox chipped and purchase pirated games. The console and games were then forensically examined to provide the evidence needed to obtain a search warrant.
Entrapment.

I *think* chipping is legal in Australia. Given that there's a store down the road from me that advertises it...
 

johnman

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Lord_Ascendant said:
You've somehow found a way to track me? Again? *rumbles* stupid tracking devise in my shoe....I'll have to incinerate them again.
Incinerate all you want - We know where you live. and where you keep your shoes. And where you buy your shoes.
YOU WILL NEVER ESCAPE US!!
 

darthzew

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Piracy must be dealt with. I think the law should be tougher on it, but on the vendors. The guys making money must be taken care of. I think it'd be a stupid move to crack down on illegal music when you've got worse crimes.
 

Jursa

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An unlimited fine... I wonder how many zeros are gonna be put on that paper :p
 

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Slayer_2 said:
I feel a bit sorry for this guy as he probably didn't know he was doing wrong, but it is still his fault.
He had four PCs, over 1000 copied titles and a web site dedicated to his business... I'm pretty sure he knew very well what he was doing.

It will be interesting to know how much prison time he will get. From the scope of his dealings I'd guess 3 to 6 months for a first time, individual offender should be more than enough to give him a good scare. Anything over a year would be excessive.
 

zoozilla

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"Such illegal activity can pose real health dangers for the public"

Maybe I'm just thick - how does this have anything to do will people's health?
 

Lt. Sera

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zoozilla said:
"Such illegal activity can pose real health dangers for the public"

Maybe I'm just thick - how does this have anything to do will people's health?
It hasn't got anything to do with it, just another random comment to make the guy look bad. In any case, people that make money off of pirating get no sympathy from me. Good riddance.
 

thenumberthirteen

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Do you think anyone's ever going to get an actual unlimited fine? I mean if you broke a law that came with an unlimited fine, and you broke the hell out of it. I mean really really broke it; you broke it, picked it back up, and broke it again. Obviously it would be legal to impose an actually infinite fine (i'm assuming), but would any judge do it?
 

mercutioviz

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Agreed. This guy is a scumbag thief and deserves to go to prison. Perhaps the article should have mentioned "counterfeiter" in the title since that's really what he is.
 

Zac_Dai

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What really annoys me about stuff like this is the stupidly high punishment for this and the bullshit crap about him being a "health danger".

Thats what pisses me off about this country the most, defraud corporations or the government and the justice system will be all over you, but if you rape, murder or steal from innocent people the police and the courts couldn't give a shit.
 

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Lt. Sera said:
zoozilla said:
"Such illegal activity can pose real health dangers for the public"

Maybe I'm just thick - how does this have anything to do will people's health?
It hasn't got anything to do with it, just another random comment to make the guy look bad. In any case, people that make money off of pirating get no sympathy from me. Good riddance.
I think they mean he's a health risk because when he chips he's tampering with electrical equipment and it obviously won't be standardised in terms of safety by anyone but himself. So if he screws up and causes an electrical fault it may result in a fire. I dunno the technical details, but it certainly seems possible, however unlikely.

And in my book, piracy is stealing. You wouldn't walk into a shop and pick up a copy of Gears o' Death 5 without paying. Profit or not, pirates are criminals.
 

Slayer_2

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Modifying systems in order to play pirated or imported games. It's a very grey area of law which is generally only enforced in conjunction with piracy charges.
Ok, thanks.