The Future of the United States of America
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On-topic: Amazing whatever- Do. Not. Under. Any. Circumstances. Do. The. Following:
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3. If your nation broke into civil war, I would lead a detachment of European armies to restore order and control to your nation. And steal everything of value.
On-topic: Amazing whatever- Do. Not. Under. Any. Circumstances. Do. The. Following:
1. Make multiple posts. It is against the rules.
2. Insult the British State, Crown or Nation in my prescence, lest you wish to bring destruction upon yourself.
3. If your nation broke into civil war, I would lead a detachment of European armies to restore order and control to your nation. And steal everything of value.
I propose a provision allowing for the mockery of the Queen's hats. They are so very silly.Fondant said:
Thats fine in theory, however in practice the banks aren't lending anymore and people are extremely worried about losing money, so it is very difficult to get people to spend.Hamsterlad said:
The United States has never been about democracy. In fact, democracy is something that would destroy America. Though the last eight years of facist rule (facism: when government is run by corporate interests) have put the US where it is today, that has been but one step on a long road. The problem is one of control.
The US government is not in control of the means to govern. It is not in control of its money supply (private banks have that). It is not in control of its armed forces, that control has slipped from the national assembly to the presidential office, where it is being used for the interests of large corporations rather than for any purpose that serves the nation. It cannot provide services to its people that justify its existence. All it has left is fear.
And that's the substance the US is abusing now. A little fear every now and then never hurt anyone, but the citizens of the United States live in fear of foreigners, neighbours, the government, pretty much everything. It's completely backwards. A government should be afraid of its people, it should tremble that it may anger the population. The US government is every day validated in that if they are feared, it matters not what they do to the country.
Basically, the outcomes can be many and varied. You can climb the hill on the backs of the poor, as you have done before. You can find another country to assert control over and economically destroy to feed your capitalism, much like Chile, Venezuela (shame you lost that one), Bolivia... or you could do what you dismiss offhand because of years of rhetoric and socialize. Make the government put people to work, give people incentives to do the work, tax the upper few percent properly and divide the burden more equitably, and make an economy that is not based on the stock market, but on the production of goods and services. There are a few areas that have no business outside of government control, namely health insurance and minting. Then re-educate roughly 80% of your lawyers into something useful, and give the courts the authority to hold people in contempt of court for junk lawsuits and fine them the opposition's legal expenses.
Many, many small changes are needed, but the overarching problem is and will continue to be that you need to make the government answer to you. It'd help if you realized that good politicians can be very boring, uninspiring people, and that receiving some oral stimulation from someone who is not your wife does not in fact make you less competent or able to lead. If you were able to open your eyes and realize that the world itself does not hold you in contempt for your wealth, but for the irresponsible, malicious and disproportionately harsh treatment of anything you cannot exert direct control over, I would start feeling a spark of hope for all of you.
The US government is not in control of the means to govern. It is not in control of its money supply (private banks have that). It is not in control of its armed forces, that control has slipped from the national assembly to the presidential office, where it is being used for the interests of large corporations rather than for any purpose that serves the nation. It cannot provide services to its people that justify its existence. All it has left is fear.
And that's the substance the US is abusing now. A little fear every now and then never hurt anyone, but the citizens of the United States live in fear of foreigners, neighbours, the government, pretty much everything. It's completely backwards. A government should be afraid of its people, it should tremble that it may anger the population. The US government is every day validated in that if they are feared, it matters not what they do to the country.
Basically, the outcomes can be many and varied. You can climb the hill on the backs of the poor, as you have done before. You can find another country to assert control over and economically destroy to feed your capitalism, much like Chile, Venezuela (shame you lost that one), Bolivia... or you could do what you dismiss offhand because of years of rhetoric and socialize. Make the government put people to work, give people incentives to do the work, tax the upper few percent properly and divide the burden more equitably, and make an economy that is not based on the stock market, but on the production of goods and services. There are a few areas that have no business outside of government control, namely health insurance and minting. Then re-educate roughly 80% of your lawyers into something useful, and give the courts the authority to hold people in contempt of court for junk lawsuits and fine them the opposition's legal expenses.
Many, many small changes are needed, but the overarching problem is and will continue to be that you need to make the government answer to you. It'd help if you realized that good politicians can be very boring, uninspiring people, and that receiving some oral stimulation from someone who is not your wife does not in fact make you less competent or able to lead. If you were able to open your eyes and realize that the world itself does not hold you in contempt for your wealth, but for the irresponsible, malicious and disproportionately harsh treatment of anything you cannot exert direct control over, I would start feeling a spark of hope for all of you.
I've read: How to Survive a nuclear war. So I'm good. It doesn't have to be a nuclear war, it serves just as well at preparing one for anarchy.Jenkins said:
That's not what fascism is. You've described a plutocracy, which is similar to fascism in that it, too, is not an accurate description of the political system of the United States.WitherVoice said:
Actually, the reason you rose to power so quickly was because of World War 1, everyone needed loans off of you so to this day Europe is still paying it back, it had nothing to do with the American Dream, also the reason you took the world from us was because we decided, like in the second world war to fight from the beginning, instead of joinning at the end and taking all of the glory, this meant we got bankrupt defending the world from tyranny and oppression.The Amazing Orgazmo said:
Two things make a good politician: Good ideas and ways to enact those ideas.WitherVoice said:
The first requires a good brain.
The second requires you to either be the head of a dictatorship or having the majority in parliament or congress (or others government systems) behind you. Getting politicians to vote in your favour requires the exact same thing as getting the public to vote for you. Charisma. If nobody likes you you're on your own and that's never a good thing.
Damn, I was hoping no one would notice that, my point still stands that it was because of the 2 world wars that America and Russia became world superpowers.Hunde Des Krieg said:
Hopefully it'll crumble, the majority of citizens in the U.S. will realize that they may be the most powerful nation, but that doesn't mean any other nation has to bloody listen to them and in general the world will be a happier place because the majority of Americans will finally have a slice of humble pie and realize what a big ass they've made of themselves over the last few years.Acid Armageddon said:
Purely hopeful on my place here. But I know too many (About 99 in 100 (At best... That's probably hopelessly wrong)) Americans that are like that, they think 'America is the most powerful nation in the world so listen to us! We're the best so we have the best ideas!'
Though! I must admit, Being an Australian. I have to say that so far Obama is the best president elected to date. He seems to KNOW that in general, most other countries (I know most Australians do) think that America is just a sack of big talking yokals being big mouths and (Wrongly) thinking they know what's best.
Maybe after this, more money will be spent on schools. From what i've seen, I'm quite proud of my education, as shitty as it was.