The Greatest Sin in your Opinion

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lwm3398

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Killing a family, raping the mom/oldest girl, and making the youngest watch. It really makes me sick to know things like this happen, and that it may go un-punished. This, if anything, deserves the death penalty.

Genocide.
 

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Zombie Badger said:
Killing people for no reason, of course. Second worst would be talking in the cinema.
Shepard Book says there's a special hell reserved for people who talk in the theater.
 

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I think murder is worse than rape. If you get raped then you may live the rest of your life feeling depressed but if you get murdered then you have no life left to live. Half a loaf is better than no bread.
 

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I hate to jump on the bandwagon, but rape is a serious crime.

"But what about murder?" you may ask. Well, sure it's awful and everything. However, I'll always think that murder we'll be more accepted by humans. With all the genocides, pillages, witch burning, etc... You can't help that man has killed and killed again.

On another more serious note (It's half-joke in reality): Who ever accepted Shia Labeouf as an actor made a fucking great sin.
 

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Mimsofthedawg said:
lwm3398 said:
Killing a family, raping the mom/oldest girl, and making the youngest watch. This, if anything, deserves the death penalty.

Genocide.
Personally, I think raping the youngest girl and then making the mom watch is worse. But then, I guess which is worse is irrelevant cause they're both dispicable.

Didn't they make a game about this? Rape lay or something?
In Japan, and it's probably Platinum Lay now.

And with the youngest making the mom watch, that would be horrible, but the young girl would be scared, befuddled, scared, sickened, scared, hurt, and scared. The young girl wouldn't know what was happening, and when it dawns on her: Absolutely terrified. Is she next? Why is he doing this? Who is he?

Ya know?
 

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Random argument man said:
rape is a serious crime.
Yes. I think that it should carry the death penalty. Along with murder. Now, you said that murder is something we're used to. With all the genocides and pillages, witch burnings, we have to be used to it. But we can't be. You may not have cared about that young girl thought to be a witch being burned, but someone hundreds of years ago did. You may not care about all those people who died between all the wars: But someone did. No one will ever not care about a loved one's death. Thus, someone will always be fighting for the punishment of murderers.
 

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Mimsofthedawg said:
Making a game with children where you can kill EVERYTHING accept for the children - yet the physics still apply to them. Answer me this, what's worse, killing a child in cold blood, or detonating a nuke under them, sending them hurling 50 feet in the air outside of the safety of their compound, where now they must fend for themselve in the cold, hard, unforgiving, Yao Guai infested wastes. I'd elect murder!
I don't think this is so bad. Hell, in Black and White you can set people on fire! Children included. You can do anything you want to the people, crush them, throw them, drop them down mountains, destroy their houses, anything you can think of. However, it's just a game. Killing in a game doesn't matter. Now, killing children, or adults for that matter, is bad. In a game? Who cares. I could care less about little computer people.
 

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Internet Kraken said:
To kill somebody. There is not greater crime than taking away someone's life.
This is complete nonsense. There is nothing wrong with killing to defend yourself or someone else. If you find yourself in a situation where you either kill a criminal or watch him kill someone else, you can't just go "welp, I won't kill him because that would be wrong," since you will, through your inaction, cause another person to die anyway. Except instead of killing the criminal, you kill an innocent person. Fantastic.
I'm obviously talking about unnecessary killing. I understand that sometimes you must kill somebody to save other people's lives.
 

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lwm3398 said:
Random argument man said:
rape is a serious crime.
Yes. I think that it should carry the death penalty. Along with murder. Now, you said that murder is something we're used to. With all the genocides and pillages, witch burnings, we have to be used to it. But we can't be. You may not have cared about that young girl thought to be a witch being burned, but someone hundreds of years ago did. You may not care about all those people who died between all the wars: But someone did. No one will ever not care about a loved one's death. Thus, someone will always be fighting for the punishment of murderers.
If I said rape would be punished by a death sentence, I would accept murder as a punishment tool. I never said I didn't care for all those people who died. (It's a wonderful thing you used the word "may").

Sure, we can't accept murder at 100% as a society. However, a lot of justice systems thinks it's a good thing.

It becomes less and less acceptable in many countries. That's a good thing. However, some countries still uses execution as a mean of punishment. Like you said, loved ones will not accept murder as an answer. They'll probably reject the punishment.

Bottom Line: Murder is accepted by the punishers. Murder is not accepted by the punished. Well, If you mixed my logic with yours, it pretty much gives this conclusion.
 

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Random argument man said:
lwm3398 said:
Random argument man said:
rape is a serious crime.
Yes. I think that it should carry the death penalty. Along with murder. Now, you said that murder is something we're used to. With all the genocides and pillages, witch burnings, we have to be used to it. But we can't be. You may not have cared about that young girl thought to be a witch being burned, but someone hundreds of years ago did. You may not care about all those people who died between all the wars: But someone did. No one will ever not care about a loved one's death. Thus, someone will always be fighting for the punishment of murderers.
If I said rape would be punished by a death sentence, I would accept murder as a punishment tool. I never said I didn't care for all those people who died. (It's a wonderful thing you used the word "may").

Sure, we can't accept murder at 100% as a society. However, a lot of justice systems thinks it's a good thing.

It becomes less and less acceptable in many countries. That's a good thing. However, some countries still uses execution as a mean of punishment. Like you said, loved ones will not accept murder as an answer. They'll probably reject the punishment.

Bottom Line: Murder is accepted by the punishers. Murder is not accepted by the punished. Well, If you mixed my logic with yours, it pretty much gives this conclusion.
I believe you misunderstood, what I meant by loved ones fighting, I meant that they would be fighting for the murderers death. And I think execution is a punishment that is for the worst of crimes, as in rape and murder. Those two only. But before I go further, let me explain what I meant.

If I were to be killed, my loved ones would fight for me. They would want my killer found, and if I know them well enough, want him to have the death penalty. I support the death penalty. As for the murderer's loved ones, they will be bitter, and probably not want it, but I think the death penalty is acceptable in this situation.

But here's what I don't get about your post: Are you saying you support the death penalty for murder and rape, or not? I don't understand.
 

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lwm3398 said:
A big fucking snip
Sorry about that! I tend to be a little confusing sometimes. No, I don't support the death penalty. I would like to beleive that humanity can evolve from this old way of thinking.

On clarifications:I was just talking about the executionner's point of view. The one that throws the axe and doesn't give a shit. (He probably will when the family of the punished will knock at his door).

I understand your point of view. I just wanted to explain that there's two sides on this matter.