the height of music was the 60's......

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Vault101 said:
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Now in the 2000s you got lots of cool electronic music out there that's not Skrillex WUBWUBWUB.
but theres somthing about 90's techno thats...special...

sassy black ladys doing your vocals makes everything better XD

Hah of course! Oh the memories. We've come a long way since then haha
 

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They still aren't chart-toppers. Which I figured was the metric of popularity we were going for. :p

But whatever. Irrelevant. I digress. I guess I have nothing productive to add to this thread now.

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CrunkParty said:
I take everything Cracked says with a pinch of salt. Keep in mind these are the same people who seem to believe that not only is Ziggy Stardust the best glam album but everyone else thinks it is too.
its that one writer..gladstone...he does quite a few musical articles

I dont know if it was him or not who pointed out that greendays "goodriddence" is actually kind of "meh" but he gets a point for that in book (because I fucking hate that song)
 

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They still aren't chart-toppers. Which I figured was the metric of popularity we were going for. :p
chart topping doesnt matter....

in fact alot of the greatest widlwy known stuff was never chart topping
 

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Today we can't simply take only popular music. We have so many genres outside of the popular spectrum which are ignored by this graph...
The extremely wide diversity is a big part of the reason why top40 music is getting blander by the year - it sits at an intersection of not what people love, but what people don't hate.

All musical genres that aren't bland, repetitive, and catchy will attract much more passionate responses, and therefore be less suitable for mass marketing, as for sales figures it doesn't matter how much one loves the music, as long as he buys it.

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I take everything Cracked says with a pinch of salt. Keep in mind these are the same people who seem to believe that not only is Ziggy Stardust the best glam album but everyone else thinks it is too.
There are also the minor details that Cracked is first and foremost an entertainment website, and that controversy has a nice habit of generating page-views.
Generally it's a wise thing to consider everything they say as semi-fictional until proven otherwise.
 

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I believe my first post said as much. But we're going by popular perception *now*. Or at least I was. Point is, crossed wires, me trying to explain why I said whatever, I no longer care.

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What of the incredible complexity and flow of Classical music? You won't find that in the Beatles.
 

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At that point, it was all rock and roll. Offspring, Foo Fighters, RHCP, and maybe some AC/DC to dice things up a little.

Now I still listen to those old songs I've always loved, along with some new ones in other genres. From the hardest Atreyu you can throw at me to the sweet carols of cartoon equines, if it's good music, I will listen to it, mostly regardless of genre. Also, for those saying all modern music sucks:

That said, radio music can go die in a fire. Coldplay and a few others are the only ones worth a listen.
 

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Vault101 said:
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I was a little....[i/]annoyed[/i] at the time

I agree on the dopamine things though..I honestly think I am addicted to music as much as I am to caffine...
Don't worry, I was merely saying that's the part of the article I found less interesting, besides I understand you were annoyed and going by your footnote also drunk.

But yeah I mentioned the dopamine because I do seem to get some sort of high out of music, seriously I seem to give the impression that I'm high or drunk when I listen to music, though not always depends on the mood, but sometimes I get really weird[footnote]Though I generally tend to act really weird, though I guess more of a different type of weird.[/footnote], I don't know if I'm addicted, it's probably likely, but I'm not really addicted to anything else other than possibly the Internet so I can't really identify it.
 

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ok so I was reading a cracked article
That's the first problem.

main point here being that music reached its "peak" in the 60's...that there is less variety and more loudness in songs
That's probably true. At least, in the technical sense. We are talking pop here, and pop has become significantly "safer" over time, with less experimental elements and more "every body play the same phrase in the same key this summer!"

Also, "loudness" is in part a technological issue. but more importantly:

[quote/][i/]"Hence, an old tune with slightly simpler chord progressions, new instrument sonorities that were in agreement with current tendencies, and recorded with modern techniques that allowed for increased loudness levels could be easily perceived as novel, fashionable and groundbreaking."
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Cracked is not where you go for science and correlation does not equal causation. It was amusing, but that's all.

so you know its offical that I have terrible fucking taste in music....
You don't have terrible taste in music until you say "hey, howabout some Creed?"

becuase I cant stand classic rock, I fucking hate it
...Of course, we ARE mortal enemies now. :p

But they weren't right. Unless they were talking datasets specifically. Because lack of variety does not equal bad. More loudness doesn't equal bad.

Also, this would make everything from the 1600s (More appropriately, the 18th century would probably be the actual start of decline) downhill in terms of music, and everything from Marconi to now downhill in the case of loudness. The former due to the fact that a lot of what we do in terms of music started becoming formalised through that (those) period(s) and the latter due to the aforementioned technical limitations.

In short, screw that. Enjoy what you want. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to formally declare war on you. I believe I will decimate you with...QUEEN!

 

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I admit, I am one of those "music is shit these days" types.

There are some songs I like and a few groups but nothing i'll remember in a few years.

I was brought up listening to the 60's and 80's (I was an 80's child so that era is firmly implanted on me).

The 80's will always be the era I say had the best music.
 

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Time has a filtering effect on quality. If you look at the top 40 songs of any year prior to modernity, you'll barely recognize most of them. The good remain, the bad are forgotten.
 

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Rawne1980 said:
I admit, I am one of those "music is shit these days" types.

There are some songs I like and a few groups but nothing i'll remember in a few years.

I was brought up listening to the 60's and 80's (I was an 80's child so that era is firmly implanted on me).

The 80's will always be the era I say had the best music.
Me too. I like classical and some music from the other decades, even today, but I don't move in the circles that follow current popular music and don't like to listen to ad playing radio stations, so I'm mostly focused on 80s music and music from my parent's record albums, with a smattering of others. Occasionally I come across something new - e.g. Manowar was a relatively recent discovery within the last couple of years, and I like most musicals.

So I've got a range of tastes/styles from light metal to pop to classical, but I still have strong preferences towards the music from my childhood (born in '74).
 

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I like how this news came out a few months ago now, and was actually on the main page of this site, and not too many people cared, but now cracked covers it it's big news =p

Anyway, this study only takes Pop music into account. Fact is there's plenty of very good composers and musicians out there, all this study really shows is that teenagers have terrible taste in music, and we all knew that from day 1.
 

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Shadowstar38 said:
Music has never "peaked". It's constantly evolving and churning out different genres and sounds. So goes the march of humanity.
Exactly this. The idea that people are getting more dim and less creative as time goes on is absurd; we just don't hear about all the crap that came out in the same era while having to suffer through all the present crap.

It's like literature, for every The Curious Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde is a hundred other books we'd never hear of or that were totally lost with the passage of time because no-one thought highly enough of them to preserve them. Just because we know of a lot of old books that were great it doesn't detract from genuinely fantastic works of our time, like His Dark Materials.

Yep, I'm a Lit-Fag who knows nothing about music so I may be wrong but it seems solid enough logic to me.
 

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The article in question says pop music has been getting worse.

I don't listen to pop, and now I have another reason not to.

That's all I took from it.
 

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Xan Krieger said:
Given that that era and the others near it had such crappy bands as the Beatles and Elvis no music didn't peak back then. Fallout 3 taught me how bad the 50s were and enough commercials teach me about the other bad bands of the day.
Explain, please.

Vault101 said:
I dont actually know much music from that era..I;d be curious to see some examples...to see if it really is as good as people say
Well, the main reason everyone loves that era is the huge variety of music that got explored in it. You got everything from this...

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...to this:

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And much more besides.
 

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OhJohnNo said:
Xan Krieger said:
Given that that era and the others near it had such crappy bands as the Beatles and Elvis no music didn't peak back then. Fallout 3 taught me how bad the 50s were and enough commercials teach me about the other bad bands of the day.
Explain, please.
What is there to explain? They sound like crap to me so I don't consider that era to be the height of music.
 

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Xan Krieger said:
OhJohnNo said:
Xan Krieger said:
Given that that era and the others near it had such crappy bands as the Beatles and Elvis no music didn't peak back then. Fallout 3 taught me how bad the 50s were and enough commercials teach me about the other bad bands of the day.
Explain, please.
What is there to explain? They sound like crap to me so I don't consider that era to be the height of music.
Out of interest, what are your tastes in music generally?