The infinity of human stupidity is once again proven.

[wills_b]

If I understood the issue correctly (and it's far from clear that i have) it's that these guys want their names stricken from the records as members of the churches at which they were baptised. It's not a "ew, icky, get this holy ghost stuff offa me" thing but a "please remove my name from your calling list" thing.

Yeah, that's about the gist of it. Basicaly it's a load of people who were baptised when they were babies, and they say that because it was done without their wishes, and they disagree with it, and with the process of (basically) forcing a religion upon children who don't have a choice in the matter.

In the Church's defence, they did say they would amend the register, but not fully take someone's name off of it as it is a historical document; seems pretty reasonable to me.

I'm a non-baptised atheist and I would have to say I'd be pissed if someone baptised me in my sleep or something, and I would want it undone. It's not a case of worshipping atheism it's my way of saying I don't agree with the church or anything it does.

 

[Doitpow]

If I understood the issue correctly (and it's far from clear that i have) it's that these guys want their names stricken from the records as members of the churches at which they were baptised. It's not a "ew, icky, get this holy ghost stuff offa me" thing but a "please remove my name from your calling list" thing.

Yeah, that's about the gist of it. Basicaly it's a load of people who were baptised when they were babies, and they say that because it was done without their wishes, and they disagree with it, and with the process of (basically) forcing a religion upon children who don't have a choice in the matter.

In the Church's defence, they did say they would amend the register, but not fully take someone's name off of it as it is a historical document; seems pretty reasonable to me.

I'm a non-baptised atheist and I would have to say I'd be pissed if someone baptised me in my sleep or something, and I would want it undone. It's not a case of worshipping atheism it's my way of saying I don't agree with the church or anything it does.

I agree entireley...i'm an unbaptised athiest and I would be furious if someone baptised me. It's like being forcibly made to take an initiation into a terrorist organisation, its about the associations in my mind and control over my life. Likewise i would not like to be buried in a cemetary or have a christian funeral, even though I wouldn't be aware of it.

 

[MarsProbe]

I'm a non-baptised atheist and I would have to say I'd be pissed if someone baptised me in my sleep or something, and I would want it undone. It's not a case of worshipping atheism it's my way of saying I don't agree with the church or anything it does.

To be baptised in your sleep, you would have to be quite the sound sleeper (providing that we are referring to complete immersion baptism here) . It does sound a little strange to want to have the effects of a regilious ceremony undone that you shouldn't hold any stock in anyway, if you are an atheist.

Having their name removed from the register of their former church does seem like a reasonable request. I'm guessing Radio 2 didn't want anything to go over the heads of their audience by using complicated words like "apostasy" and "the", so opted for the rather daft sounding "unbaptised" instead.

 

[Arachon]

I don't know about the rest of the world, but in Sweden, when you get baptised, you also "join" the church, and later on will have to pay "church tax". So I supose "unbaptization" means leavaing the church rather then "reversing" the rite.

 

[Lord George]

I am annoyed at the fact I was baptised as a baby before I could decide on my own religious and moral ideals. But as I don't believe in Christianity I don't think ethers any significance to being baptised and so don't give a damn about it. Also if God does turn out to be real then its going to help me argue my point, its a win-I don't care particularly

 

[TopHatTim]

I was listening to Radio 2 this afternoon and nearly drove my car down an embankment into a park because of a discussion on the Jeremy Vine Show. The discussion was about atheists wanting to be unbaptised.

This is stupid beyond all reason, if you are a bloody atheist why in the name of darwin do you care that you were dipped in a sink?

This is apparently a human rights issue worthy of broadcast on national radio in the UK.

So what are peoples thoughts on the situation...

aahahha "why in the name of darwin" ahahahhaha..lol but seriously the athiest unbatism,thats pretty stupid.
but i think we already proved humanities stupidity when we decided to make 2 sequals to halo one...and the creation of gamespot employees.

 

[ElderScribe]

First i don't even know how that's possible unless you lop their heads off, seriously how does one un-baptize...if they renounce God/Jesus then the baptism means nothing anyways so it just turns out to be more farting in the wind for no reason except to just do it.

but these are probably the same type of idiots who thought that wearing your pants down to your knees (while wearing a belt) was hip.

 

[Gooble]

That is stupid. Imagine if a Jew became an atheist and asked to be uncircumcised.

That is stupid. Imagine if a Jew became an atheist and asked to be uncircumcised.

that'd be gross. *Heres you're piece of skin back*

That is stupid. Imagine if a Jew became an atheist and asked to be uncircumcised.

that'd be gross. *Heres you're piece of skin back*

Exactly.

You can actually have circumcision reversed-I'm not sure how they do it, but definitely I know there is something you can do.

I was baptised, and am now an atheist, and I'm kind of disappointed in my parents for doing that to me, considering it was initiating me in something I had no knowledge of or power over. And I feel getting one of these certificates would be me just being plain spiteful.

 

[Flour]

That is stupid. Imagine if a Jew became an atheist and asked to be uncircumcised.

Happens more than you'd think, men wanting to reverse a decision made about their body they had no control over.

 

[doctorwhofan]

By asking to be unbaptised, they are acknowledging at least the religion has some truth. Enough to be frightened enough to go through an (to them) a ritcual to remove a ritcual that has no power (again to them). Isn't that being hoisted by their own Pitard?

 

[SenseOfTumour]

*orders a pack of bacon and a staple gun*

Now offering uncircumcision, only $100 each!

Seriously tho, although I can understand some men wanting to reverse a circumcision done to them that they had no choice about, baptism is just a short dunk of your head in a sink, if you strip away the religious aspect. Therefore if you're an athiest, you're essentially trying to reverse a time when you rinsed shampoo out of your hair, its just daft.

There again, maybe if you had to wait til 18 to choose if you wanted to have circumcision done it'd MASSIVELY reduce the number of them done. So, hang on, you want to cut a bit of my cock off, because God said so? I'm all for moderate religion, that being that if you need religion to help you do good, then great, just try to keep a level head about what it says.

 

[HazukiHawkins]

That is stupid. Imagine if a Jew became an atheist and asked to be uncircumcised.

Happens more than you'd think, men wanting to reverse a decision made about their body they had no control over.

I'm of the opinion that no part of a person's body should be cut off, modified or otherwise systematically mutilated until the person is old enough to be able to decline.

EDIT: Well, obviously the umbilical cord needs to be severed. But that's not really part of one body anyway, so much as a temporary link between two of them, so... um... yeah.

 

[macapus]

Human Stupidity: Hey guys! While im robbing this convenient store, im gunna piss in the cash register 'cause it's not like the cops could track me down by the DNA in my urine.

OR!

What about the drug addicted criminal who, when asked for a valid id by a cop, handed him the bong(crack).

 

[antipunt]

That is stupid. Imagine if a Jew became an atheist and asked to be uncircumcised.

D:

 

[Noamuth]

Maybe an un-baptism could be just setting them on fire?

I was baptized and even though I'm not Christian.. I'm really not bothered by it.

A friend of mine laughed at me about it once, and I got a bit annoyed. I was dipped in water and welcomed into the world. It doesn't have a religious meaning for me, especially since I was a bloody baby at the time. Hell, even my parents think it was silly.

All this 'un-baptism' business just seems a bit childish to me, as in the physical act of it (still not sure of how you'd go about it). But if you just wanted your name taken off whatever records they have of it, that's understandable, I guess.

 

[gh0ti]

Another baptised atheist here. Am ashamed of those people kicking up a stink because they supposedly want to be un-baptised. If they think they are furthering "the cause" they most certainly are not; instead they are propagating the unflattering stereotype of atheists as pedantic and insecure people with nothing better to do than bash religion.

If they want to do it, then good luck to them, but I agree with the OP, this isn't worthy of prime time national radio.

 

[Socdk]

That is stupid. Imagine if a Jew became an atheist and asked to be uncircumcised.

that'd be gross. *Heres you're piece of skin back*

Even grosser about that idea would be that they actually have archives and storages of old old foreskin.