The infinity of human stupidity is once again proven.

[asinann]

That is stupid. Imagine if a Jew became an atheist and asked to be uncircumcised. Edit: It is actually possible to be uncircumcised but it is painful and your member will be very thin after you do it.

Then again, it's gotten to the point where you can sue your dr (malpractice) and parents (abuse) for doing it to you when you were a baby too.

 

[AbsoluteVirtue18]

Oh my god.....I have no response to this that will not get me on probation.

 

[The Keeper]

This is why I'm personally thankful for the sacrament of Confirmation.

 

[El Taco the Rogue]

That is stupid. Imagine if a Jew became an atheist and asked to be uncircumcised.

Happens more than you'd think, men wanting to reverse a decision made about their body they had no control over.

I'm of the opinion that no part of a person's body should be cut off, modified or otherwise systematically mutilated until the person is old enough to be able to decline.

EDIT: Well, obviously the umbilical cord needs to be severed. But that's not really part of one body anyway, so much as a temporary link between two of them, so... um... yeah.

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Agreed.

 

[Altorin]

If my father didn't mention to me that I was baptised whenever I show the slightest bent towards atheism (I'm not, I'm agnostic, but that's the buzz word these days, atheism), then I probably wouldn't care.

but he does, and it bothers me.

 

[megapenguinx]

If you were atheist you wouldn't care... You can be angry at your parents for trying to drown you in a tub of water though

 

[mike1921]

One thing I hate is how this post has gotten so much attention but no one knows why it's an issue, and by the time I got here to explain it's too late, my post is lost in a flooded sea of well meaning criticism of what on the surface seems uttery moronic behavior.

It's only when you realize the reason it's such a big deal for atheist who's elected officials bullied by a state mandated religion that it becomes clear what the problem is. State mandated religion, religious clergy using the census data to make it seem like they've got a lot more people on their side than they actually do, and so on.

I wish everyone would read this.

 

[Seldon2639]

Well, think about any other symbolic gesture of religion that can be thrust upon someone before they've developed the cognition to say "wow, this makes no bloody sense". If we can avoid getting into a circumcision argument (which has already been done to death in other threads), the question is more "which symbols are important?" If I was raised as a Hasidic Jew, and grew my beard out as a result, were I to renounce my faith, I'd be likely to shave the beard off. I wouldn't wear a yarmulke anymore, either. Asking to be unbaptized is equivalent to removing any other symbol of a religion from your consciousness. It's a washing clean (as it were) the religion from oneself.

By asking to be unbaptised, they are acknowledging at least the religion has some truth. Enough to be frightened enough to go through an (to them) a ritcual to remove a ritcual that has no power (again to them). Isn't that being hoisted by their own Pitard?

Petard, first. Second, no. In the same way your desire not to wear a yarmulke or celebrate passover doesn't indicate an acknowledgment that Judaism is somewhat true, removing the vestiges of another religion you don't believe in isn't indicating a "fear" of a ritual. If you converted from Islam to Christianity, you likely wouldn't pray five times a day to Allah. That's not fear of the ritual, that's a belief that it's irrelevant (if not flat out wrong). The symbol has a meaning, just not a theistic one. It's a symbol of a corrupt, ignorant, and destructive institution, and I can understand why anyone would want to make as public a declaration as possible that they want nothing to do with it.

On the census data stuff, it's true in America as well. Often, atheism is counted by subtracting the number of people on the rolls of religious institutions from the total population. If you've been baptized, you're on the rolls.

 

[Sewblon]

That is stupid. Imagine if a Jew became an atheist and asked to be uncircumcised. Edit: It is actually possible to be uncircumcised but it is painful and your member will be very thin after you do it.

Then again, it's gotten to the point where you can sue your dr (malpractice) and parents (abuse) for doing it to you when you were a baby too.

So, Jewish families can be sued for practicing their traditions. Antisemitism lives.

 

[Aleate]

I basically think of baptism as padding. If you are an atheist, then good for you woopy di do da (I am one so dont think im making fun), but if there is a god, then when you die you can go "Ha ha i was baptized, you gotta let me in ^^"
So its good to have a baptism for that bit of padding.

 

[asinann]

That is stupid. Imagine if a Jew became an atheist and asked to be uncircumcised. Edit: It is actually possible to be uncircumcised but it is painful and your member will be very thin after you do it.

Then again, it's gotten to the point where you can sue your dr (malpractice) and parents (abuse) for doing it to you when you were a baby too.

So, Jewish families can be sued for practicing their traditions. Antisemitism lives.

They get a pass because it's a religious tradition. It's everyone else that can get sued for it (we don't want him to look different from his daddy.)