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kemosabi4

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Anybody who calls themselves a gamer can say that EA pretty much has a stranglehold on sports games. They are one of the best known developers in the world, creating such classics as Battlefield, Dead Space, and Need For Speed, but their dominance truly shines through when you look at the sports genre of video games to find that nearly every top title is EA. They have a tradition of making quality games. They have one major flaw, however. They do not care about the players. Release after release is praised for it's wonderful quality, but soon falls flat because of the ridiculous approach to customer support and abusive treatment of their fans.

I will be the first to tell you that I love EA games. Recently, I have been playing Bulletstorm, and loved it. I am following Battlefield 3 news religiously. But my current favorite game is NHL 11. It's so great that it has received 22 sports game of the year awards. It's gotten extremely high scores from critics, and is regarded as one of the best sports game of all time. But there is one thing that I cannot stand. EA doesn't care about me, only the money that I give for it's products.

We'll start with one common injustice that many EA games come with: online passes.

The very basis of private ownership is that if you pay for something, it is yours, and you are free to do with it as you wish. However, EA won't have it. Starting with Tiger Woods PGA Tour 11, EA Sports began including "online passes" with it's games: one-time, single-use codes that gave access to online features. This means that only one person will be able to use the online features of one game. And if someone without a pass wants to access these features, they will have to shell out $10.


According to Peter Moore, President of EA SPORTS, "it allows us to accelerate our commitment to enhance premium online services to the entire robust EA SPORTS online community." This is easily one of the most ironic statements I have ever had the displeasure of hearing. What it really is is an attack on used video game markets. EA only implemented this as a way of keeping their revenue for themselves, and hurting the income of used-game retailers, such as Gamestop.

What EA doesn't realize, is that even though they are only trying to attack used-game retailers, (a monumentally stupid decision in itself) they also prevent siblings, roommates, and even borrowers of games from accessing features that they take for granted. I shouldn't have to mention the fact that people who borrow games usually do so because they are interested in it and considering buying it, but it is very hard to come to a conclusion when you can't play online.

In summary of my online pass point, EA thinks they can get away with limiting what people can do with what they bought and what they rightfully own. All they are concerned with is squeezing money out of their loyal customers. I will elaborate on two more examples of EA's belligerence later.
 

Faulty Turmoil

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You do realize EA is not a developer, right?

They're a publisher. They don't make games.

But yeah, they don't care at all. Still, I'm fine because I don't like sports games anyway.
Or EA.
 

kemosabi4

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U71L7Y_F0RMUL4 said:
You do realize EA is not a developer, right?

They're a publisher. They don't make games.

But yeah, they don't care at all. Still, I'm fine because I don't like sports games anyway.
Or EA.
They develop several of the games they publish. For example, they developed the original Dead Space and nearly all (if not all) of their sports games, sports games being the primary examples of their belligerence.
 

Faulty Turmoil

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Oh ok.
Sorry about that, should have gotten my facts straight first.

Also I think EA are slowly getting better in some aspects, but not in others. (Marketing)
At least they're better than they were a few years ago, but Activision seems to have filled that void.
 

kemosabi4

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U71L7Y_F0RMUL4 said:
Oh ok.
Sorry about that, should have gotten my facts straight first.
That's alright. Just the fact that you admitted your mistake puts you leaps and bounds ahead of most internet dwellers.
 

emeraldrafael

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I... just dont care. I dont play sports games online, mainly cause the last time I did, it was in 09 NHL and I had pretty much every star in the game on my team and owned anyone wtih a consistant score of at least 15 goals.

Besides, no one really cares abotu their customers. Maybe Atlus, cause I've gotten some very nice swag bags and care packages, to the point where they replaced a game for me, and had everyone on the development team sign the cover cause my game was ruined in a flood, but thtats just me. I'm sure even they, and especially other companies, couldnt give a rats ass about you, me, bob next door, anyone. They know the people who will pay are more then the people that wont.
 

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kemosabi4 said:
They develop several of the games they publish. For example, they developed the original Dead Space and nearly all (if not all) of their sports games, sports games being the primary examples of their belligerence.
The original dead space wasn't by visceral? So why it is on their site?
 

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Its just a method to counter used game sales. A reactionary, overdone method, but what do you expect? The phenomena is still rather new for the video game industry, and bad choices are to be expected. If the gaming community really can't handle the idea of having to pay $10 dollars on top of a used game's price to play online then it'll change. Its not that big of a deal.
 

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EA dont make high quality games.
Spending an hour or two playing the bug infested corpse of Battle for Middle Earth 2 or Battlefield 2 will teach you that the hard way.

They are ignorant and yes I agree that they dont care about you as soon as they have your money in their pocket.

I bought a used copy of MOH and didnt get an online pass with it. I can still play it but I get a message every game saying "Activate your pass" etc as a "grind him down to paying it with annoyance" feature.

I dislike them but if I had to choose between them and Activision It would be an easy call.
That said if I was given a gun and 1 bullet and told to shoot EA, Activison or Mythic I would plant the shot into EA's liver, beat Activison to death with the gun before making love to Mythic on the Exsanguinating body of EA.

No I dont care that these companies all do different things I just needed 3 companies for the joke.
Run with it.
 
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kemosabi4 said:
U71L7Y_F0RMUL4 said:
You do realize EA is not a developer, right?

They're a publisher. They don't make games.

But yeah, they don't care at all. Still, I'm fine because I don't like sports games anyway.
Or EA.
They develop several of the games they publish. For example, they developed the original Dead Space and nearly all (if not all) of their sports games, sports games being the primary examples of their belligerence.
It was developed by Visceral Games(formally known as EA Redwood Shores). DICE make Battlefield games which are in turn owned by EA. They are owned by EA but not really EA. Need for Speed is made by Criterion (or something like that) which were bought by EA. So EA owns companies that develop games but do not actually directly make games themselves as they are a publisher.

OT: I don't see anything wrong with this to be honest. The vast majority of preowned buyers don't use the online portion of games. At least that is what people seem to believe. It is also encouraging people to buy the games new since not a lot of people tend to buy new anymore. You do know the online portion of most games is not 100% free(except for P2P)? Have you ever even read the terms and conditions in a game manual? Most of them say something along the lines of you do not own the game you buy, what you really own is 1 licence that permits you use of 1 copy of the game. You are not permitted to lend, rent out, etc. They had this on the start up screen of every PS1 game back in the day.
 

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Used games are a much bigger problem for publishers/developers than piracy. I see nothing wrong with developers locking up their online multiplayer and hopefully it may convince them to reduce their use of DRM on my machine (the thing I OWN).
 

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U71L7Y_F0RMUL4 said:
You do realize EA is not a developer, right?

They're a publisher. They don't make games.

But yeah, they don't care at all. Still, I'm fine because I don't like sports games anyway.
Or EA.
Tell that to my good friends and former roommates who worked for EA Tiburon making the sports games in question. He wasn't publishing, he was developing. Now he works for EA...Salt Lake, I think?
 

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I feel having a boycott on EA games in unnecessary because they still make some good games. But there comes a point were I as a consumer have to stop taking this abuse. I find that time coming very soon.
 

kemosabi4

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emeraldrafael said:
Besides, no one really cares abotu their customers.
I beg to differ. Gaming is one of the last reservoirs of employees who care. Take for example, the extremely recent Brink. After the mediocre and problematic release, Splash Damage promised free DLC to people who stuck by it. Microsoft, during the release of the 360, replaced any and all troubled consoles with no questions asked. EA, in my opinion, is a special case.
 

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Yeah, I once sent them a letter about a glitch in Need for Speed Underground and they never wrote back.
 

Faulty Turmoil

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kemosabi4 said:
U71L7Y_F0RMUL4 said:
Oh ok.
Sorry about that, should have gotten my facts straight first.
That's alright. Just the fact that you admitted your mistake puts you leaps and bounds ahead of most internet dwellers.
Well, It's like I never say "It's nice to be nice."
The way I see it, anonymity is not an excuse to be an ass. Your still talking to a real person on the other end.

Plus hating people takes too much effort, and I'm a lazy guy. :)
 

M4t3us

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So my question now is: Why are you still paying full retail for an expansion pack, when said retail comes with intrusive DRM and other devious crap?
 

kemosabi4

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Glademaster said:
kemosabi4 said:
U71L7Y_F0RMUL4 said:
You do realize EA is not a developer, right?

They're a publisher. They don't make games.

But yeah, they don't care at all. Still, I'm fine because I don't like sports games anyway.
Or EA.
They develop several of the games they publish. For example, they developed the original Dead Space and nearly all (if not all) of their sports games, sports games being the primary examples of their belligerence.
It was developed by Visceral Games(formally known as EA Redwood Shores). DICE make Battlefield games which are in turn owned by EA. They are owned by EA but not really EA. Need for Speed is made by Criterion (or something like that) which were bought by EA. So EA owns companies that develop games but do not actually directly make games themselves as they are a publisher.

OT: I don't see anything wrong with this to be honest. The vast majority of preowned buyers don't use the online portion of games. At least that is what people seem to believe. It is also encouraging people to buy the games new since not a lot of people tend to buy new anymore. You do know the online portion of most games is not 100% free(except for P2P)? Have you ever even read the terms and conditions in a game manual? Most of them say something along the lines of you do not own the game you buy, what you really own is 1 licence that permits you use of 1 copy of the game. You are not permitted to lend, rent out, etc. They had this on the start up screen of every PS1 game back in the day.
I'm saying that that entire philosophy is complete bull. You bought the damn thing, therefore, you should be allowed full access without restriction. Besides, when was the last time Terms and Conditions stopped anybody? And how is online gaming not nearly 100% free? Besides paying for online service through game consoles, (which is completely acceptable) I've not seen another game that demands extra money to play online.
 

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kemosabi4 said:
emeraldrafael said:
Besides, no one really cares abotu their customers.
I beg to differ. Gaming is one of the last reservoirs of employees who care. Take for example, the extremely recent Brink. After the mediocre and problematic release, Splash Damage promised free DLC to people who stuck by it. Microsoft, during the release of the 360, replaced any and all troubled consoles with no questions asked. EA, in my opinion, is a special case.
They ask you questions. and if tehy cared, they wouldnt send you another defective product.

As for brink, I cnat speak for it. but most developers just dont care about you, the individual, personally. Thats why EA doesnt care about make you pay ten extra dollars, or any company that uses the ten dollar trick.
 

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Hiphophippo said:
U71L7Y_F0RMUL4 said:
You do realize EA is not a developer, right?

They're a publisher. They don't make games.

But yeah, they don't care at all. Still, I'm fine because I don't like sports games anyway.
Or EA.
Tell that to my good friends and former roommates who worked for EA Tiburon making the sports games in question. He wasn't publishing, he was developing. Now he works for EA...Salt Lake, I think?
Because that was EA Tiburon. A developer that EA, the publisher, owns.