Oh I know the type, several of my friends are sadly.Akira Fumi said:The gamers who feel their opinion is absolute fact. Nothing makes me more annoyed then those types.
You do realize that the logic of your first statement is backwards and convoluted, don't you? I'd ask you to clarify, but it'd probably be better that you don't.Dreyfuss said:Also these weak-willed babies that love crying about people who treat their opinions "as facts." It's called a strong opinion, at least they stand behind what they say. If you're going to take that kind of attitude then you have to be perfectly okay with the opinion that 9/11 was hilarious, women don't deserve any rights, blacks should go back into slavery, and Jesus looked his best with a **** in his mouth. After all they're only OPINIONS right? If you think any of those statements are wrong then get blown you hypocrite.
Insanum (Smacktalk is the whole reason to play multiplayer. What's the fun in winning if you can't show off? Also, stop saying good game after every damn game as a reflex and save it for the good ones.)
I usually think this, but then I see a Team ROOMBA clip on Youtube and I get confused...Arcane Azmadi said:Griefers. Hateful scum. If you derive enjoyment from making other people unhappy and upset, then you're nothing more than a sadist.
I never moan or complain in games, I concentrate on the game. And to counter you're inevitable response of 'Oh you just can't play them' I am actually rather good, usually finishing quite high in any FPS I play online. The reason I avoid them is that I do not wish to pollute my leisure time and my entertainment with closed minded self obsessed ingrates who's attitude are a big part of the reason gaming isn't taken seriously as a hobby and is seen as immature.Dreyfuss said:While I'd prefer that you grew some skin, I suppose not having to deal with you at all is marginally better than having you take up a slot just to whine.Simriel said:A perfect example of everything I personally loath about gaming/gamers and the reason that (TF2 and Champions Online aside) I do not play multiplayer games.
The handshake at the end of the match thing is the same sort of enforced, fake courtesy bs that is spoiling good sportsmanship. Good sportsmanship is giving your opponent enough credit that you'll need to do your best from start to finish to win. Any mercy is taking them as a non-threat, any unwarranted praise is mockery, if the game WAS good, say so, if it was not and you lost, and you're not sure why, chat about it, ask for advice, do something to get better. If you won, ask if they want the same, don't just give free advice, maybe they know why they lost and don't need their intelligence called into question, and besides, it's better they learn themselves anyway. Don't be modest about victory, you earned it, enjoy it, and be able to cope when you lose and your opponent enjoys theirs. Better yet, learn to turn the post-game into a victory and beat them at the trash talk. At the very least the time spent doing so means a lot more than the person who thinks they can shrug you off with a gg and everything will be cool. At least saying nothing shows that you're not so much of a tool you think two letters will make people respect you.Nifarious said:You do realize that the logic of your first statement is backwards and convoluted, don't you? I'd ask you to clarify, but it'd probably be better that you don't.Dreyfuss said:Also these weak-willed babies that love crying about people who treat their opinions "as facts." It's called a strong opinion, at least they stand behind what they say. If you're going to take that kind of attitude then you have to be perfectly okay with the opinion that 9/11 was hilarious, women don't deserve any rights, blacks should go back into slavery, and Jesus looked his best with a **** in his mouth. After all they're only OPINIONS right? If you think any of those statements are wrong then get blown you hypocrite.
Insanum (Smacktalk is the whole reason to play multiplayer. What's the fun in winning if you can't show off? Also, stop saying good game after every damn game as a reflex and save it for the good ones.)
As for gg, it's the handshake at the end of a match, the sign that you respect your opponent and have played in good spirits. For excellent games, you can GG, WP, or say whatever comes to mind. But there's nothing banal in saying gg in a lackluster match. It was still a game you played with a person, no reason to be BM about it.
And there's a lot of fun in winning without showing off--and given the zealotry in your post, I don't care to see how you smack talk. Games are best when you're playing to test yourself. Noob stomping is a pathetic way to falsely boost one's ego, and beating a good opponent requires that you recognize that if played again, the opponent could still win.
In short, a complete disavowal of maturity is what keeps the gaming community from gaining real world respect, but the forums on this website and other such places tend to be havens for the real, adult gamers. I think that in time, as gaming adults grow older and teach their kids to game, the things that people are complaining about here will be stigmatized much more and will be weeded out, at least in part.
If being taken seriously as a hobby means the same treatment as TV and movies, then I would sooner wish for another gaming crash.Simriel said:I never moan or complain in games, I concentrate on the game. And to counter you're inevitable response of 'Oh you just can't play them' I am actually rather good, usually finishing quite high in any FPS I play online. The reason I avoid them is that I do not wish to pollute my leisure time and my entertainment with closed minded self obsessed ingrates who's attitude are a big part of the reason gaming isn't taken seriously as a hobby and is seen as immature.Dreyfuss said:While I'd prefer that you grew some skin, I suppose not having to deal with you at all is marginally better than having you take up a slot just to whine.Simriel said:A perfect example of everything I personally loath about gaming/gamers and the reason that (TF2 and Champions Online aside) I do not play multiplayer games.
Just to try to wrap this up, if you say gg to someone who's a noob, you aren't complementing their play. You're only recognizing their effort and thanking them for taking the time to play with you. And I really don't think anyone says gg so people will like them. It's not about getting respect, but simply showing respect yourself. If the person doesn't say gg back, that's their own issue.Dreyfuss said:The handshake at the end of the match thing is the same sort of enforced, fake courtesy bs that is spoiling good sportsmanship. Good sportsmanship is giving your opponent enough credit that you'll need to do your best from start to finish to win. Any mercy is taking them as a non-threat, any unwarranted praise is mockery, if the game WAS good, say so, if it was not and you lost, and you're not sure why, chat about it, ask for advice, do something to get better. If you won, ask if they want the same, don't just give free advice, maybe they know why they lost and don't need their intelligence called into question, and besides, it's better they learn themselves anyway. Don't be modest about victory, you earned it, enjoy it, and be able to cope when you lose and your opponent enjoys theirs. Better yet, learn to turn the post-game into a victory and beat them at the trash talk. At the very least the time spent doing so means a lot more than the person who thinks they can shrug you off with a gg and everything will be cool. At least saying nothing shows that you're not so much of a tool you think two letters will make people respect you.Nifarious said:You do realize that the logic of your first statement is backwards and convoluted, don't you? I'd ask you to clarify, but it'd probably be better that you don't.Dreyfuss said:Also these weak-willed babies that love crying about people who treat their opinions "as facts." It's called a strong opinion, at least they stand behind what they say. If you're going to take that kind of attitude then you have to be perfectly okay with the opinion that 9/11 was hilarious, women don't deserve any rights, blacks should go back into slavery, and Jesus looked his best with a **** in his mouth. After all they're only OPINIONS right? If you think any of those statements are wrong then get blown you hypocrite.
Insanum (Smacktalk is the whole reason to play multiplayer. What's the fun in winning if you can't show off? Also, stop saying good game after every damn game as a reflex and save it for the good ones.)
As for gg, it's the handshake at the end of a match, the sign that you respect your opponent and have played in good spirits. For excellent games, you can GG, WP, or say whatever comes to mind. But there's nothing banal in saying gg in a lackluster match. It was still a game you played with a person, no reason to be BM about it.
And there's a lot of fun in winning without showing off--and given the zealotry in your post, I don't care to see how you smack talk. Games are best when you're playing to test yourself. Noob stomping is a pathetic way to falsely boost one's ego, and beating a good opponent requires that you recognize that if played again, the opponent could still win.
In short, a complete disavowal of maturity is what keeps the gaming community from gaining real world respect, but the forums on this website and other such places tend to be havens for the real, adult gamers. I think that in time, as gaming adults grow older and teach their kids to game, the things that people are complaining about here will be stigmatized much more and will be weeded out, at least in part.
I don't see where I said I enjoyed noob stomping or didn't enjoy playing people better, you have me backwards. The better the opponent, the sweeter the victory, and the more meaningful the bragging rights. What's there to show off about if I stomp some 1:20 noob? That'd be like bragging that you caught some 2" minnow or something. No, you go for the sharks, and brag when you catch one of THEM.
And you know, part of maturity is learning to deal with other human beings. I'm not the one saying the people I don't like should just get lost and be kicked out of gaming, I want them to become the people I like so I have more decent people to play with. And unlike most of the people here I don't quit when I encounter the people I don't like, because they quit for me.
than may be true but when it's an ignorant red neck saying it over an internet connection he means the hot spicy racist varietychstens said:As they say in "The Boondocks": "To me, anyone can be a ******, doesn't matter if he's white or black, if he's an annoying fuck, he's a ******" Not a direct quotation, since I couldn't find it, but it captures the spirit of the statement.sketch_zeppelin said:the assholes whom it doesn't matter what you say do or what race you are your getting called a "fucking ******"
(I do not want to hear any shit about using that word, i'm simpley quoting somthing i've been called)