The New UK Spending Cuts

[EmzOLV]

There were always going to be cuts to try and replace this 'deficit' or whatever (I'm so not up on my politics so bear with me) but I'm already beginning to feel it.

I may drive, what good does that do? I already have to pay around £1.20 p/l of petrol, and that's only rising, plus the costs that increased on my Road Tax (don't think I didn't notice that) plus the never-decreased insurance costs, plus the costs to fix my car because the roads are so terrible and road tax doesn't pay towards that (I'm guessing council taxes but they're not doing anything anyway because they're losing half their staff and can't afford to pay for it).

Train fares for London are going to kill me when I get round to starting my (extremely lucky to have) job in Jan, even if I move into London it's going to cost me god knows what to actually get to work and back. I may not even make that much money so I've had to go back and try and re-negotiate but unlikely, may just have to take what I can get.

Beginning to think moving far, far away is a better deal than being here!

 

[Willwillwritehiswill]

These cuts are going to destroy this country and lead to an even larger gap between rich and poor. I'm moving back to new zealand as soon as i can, this shit is really too much.
And to make it worse, to really hammer that final nail in the coffin, the Liberal Democrats, the people who opposed the raising of student fees and thought cuts should be made slowly are now sitting behind that arse-faced etonian, David Cameron, and nodding along. If Clegg has any balls left in him he should end his life in a blaze of glory and a six foot long rope.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

I love how the spending cuts target the middle class and below. Is there anything on there that will actually effect upper class people?

You know, the ones with money. The ones that created this slump. The ones that we paid because...they created this slump?

But, it's the Conservatives. That's what they do. Pander to the "successful" and push the rest of us closer to slavery. Unfortunately, so did Labour.

 

[Amethyst Wind]

The idea behind spending reforms is to fix the problem by not making the same mistakes (thereby stopping the increase) and working over time to calmly and patiently pay off the debt, usually taking as long or longer than we have been getting into debt (roughly 10-15 years this time around).

Neither of these things is happening. We aren't changing to fix the problem (half the banks are still getting their bonuses and playing with money they don't have) and we're trying to erase a deficit in 1/3 of the time it took us to accumulate it.

Because that'll be awesome.

Fast. Good condition. Cheap. Pick two.

The government chose the 1st and 3rd when they should have sacrificed speed for quality.

 

[Nanaki316]

I'm terrified of the way the country is being run.
I stupidly dropped out of school at 15 and got no qualifications. Don't call me a bum, I had severe mental health issues.
I'm now 22, studying at home while my partner works to support our two kids. Yes we do get benefits, but believe me we're not rich off it and we're not one of those 40k+ plus families who are claiming benefits. We still struggle to make ends me.

I'm so scared for when I have to find a job (which I want to do soon but my youngest is still only 6 months) because I have absolutely no qualifications. Who is gonna want me? Someone who ironically wants to work when our "Jeremy Kyle" community don't.
I hope this is all sorted by the time my kids grow up, I sometimes worry they'll end up like me and like all parents I want nothing but the best for my girls.

 

[Danny Ocean]

Read about this this morning. I wonder if the government realises we are in about one trillion pounds debt to America, and have been since WW2. No amount of scrimping will solve that in 4 years, and will only make peoples lives worse in the meantime. Labour, come back! All is forgiven!

Actually the war debts were paid back in 2006.

EDIT: Gonna talk to my buddies about starting up a business because we damn sure arent going to get anything out of this cock up. We should be able to come up with some good ideas.

Seems the cuts are having some of the desired effect. Although I do wonder who you'll be selling stuff to.

 

[Valksy]

On the one hand we lose half a million jobs. On the other the benefits cuts will send the "workshy" in to employment.

There are no fucking jobs. We don't really manufacture or export any more, we are a society of consumers and when you decimate consumers by removing them from employment there is a snowball effect that makes the economy worse rather than better. It's like destroying social housing programmes - not only do people lose access to reasonably priced accommodation, oh no, that isn't enough harm. Let's fuck up the building industry while we are at it, make even MORE people unemployed....

For fuck's sake.

And all that "we're in this together" bullshit. Fucking silver spooned cocksucker.

Lib dems might as well go blue - they are fucking done. I voted Lib Dem (although I live in the staunchly Labour north east and Labour won by a landslide, as I knew they would) but never ever again. I see nothing of Lib Dem moderation, I just see Clegg humming Cameron's balls in gratitude for giving him a modicum of power. Bastard.

 

[Evil the White]

They don't seem to understand basic mathematics... Take money out from one side of the equation, and you have to lose it from the other side as well.

 

[tigermilk]

Here is an interesting fact if the richest 20% of the UK population donated 20% of their personal wealth to the government it would clear the national debt.

Instead apparently the government should print billions of pounds and give it to bankers!

 

[tigermilk]

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one hilarious PoV I heard from a right-winger in the opinions page of the Metro (owned by the daily mail, not to be trusted)

You are a wise man.

 

[Ickorus]

I'll just add another point to your post then give my conclusion:

* About 490,000 public sector jobs likely to be lost - Unemployed people.

* £7bn in additional welfare budget cuts - Unemployed people can't get enough welfare to survive.

* Police funding cut by 4% a year - Less police on the streets.

* Retirement age to rise from 65 to 66 by 2020 - Younger unemployed people can't get jobs because older people are having to work longer. (Lose/lose situation for both young and old)

* Regulated rail fares to rise 3% above inflation - Employed/unemployed people find it harder to get to work/interviews for jobs because they can't afford travel costs.

* People in council housing are going to have to pay a lot more money to stay - Many more homeless people.

Basically we're gonna have a ton more homeless people on the streets being forced to commit crimes because that's literally the only way they can survive, we have less police to deal with this rise in crime and to top it all off all these fresh homeless people can't vote against the wankers in charge of the country because they have no place of residence.

Noone can say I didn't tell them the conservatives would fuck the poor over and put this country in a far worse situation than it was in before.

And anyway, the government lose far far more money to tax evasion than benefits theft but they won't do anything about that because all those conservative tossers probably do it themselves.

I refer you all to this video:

 

[Verlander]

So basically the retirement age is still going up when it should be going down. A lower retirement age would create jobs for younger people (like say, me!) and stop them from having to fall on state benefits to survive (like say, me!). It says this won't start until 2020, but we know what most companies are like. They'll gleefully force their older members of staff to keep their jobs, since this will save them the trouble of searching for younger workers to replace their older members of staff.

Heard of the phrase "ageing population"?

Ultimately, I'm coming to the conclusion that the Tories are rubbish, although not *quite* as rubbish as Labour was (Iraq war, mainly). Lib Dems remain no-hopers, so I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion of: don't vote and take it on the chin.

Basically what I do, and did this time round. The "your vote counts!/could make a difference! argument is a load is bollocks.

OT:The cuts are necessary to a point, but cutting both jobs and benefit to unemployment is absolutely ridiculous. The cuts to benefits aren't cuts to how much spongers get paid, they're cuts to training and essential skills that in the past helped people get back into work. I noticed Mr Cameron didn't take a pay cut, nor did the the rest of the cabinet. I noticed how there is no huge tax on the rich (considering Cameron is a multimillionaire, not surprising). When will people in this country learn that ALL politicians are ONLY self serving, and vote accordingly? Never, because by and large, this is an island of idiots. Give Scotland their independence, and I'll go live up there.

 

[Kinguendo]

EDIT: Gonna talk to my buddies about starting up a business because we damn sure arent going to get anything out of this cock up. We should be able to come up with some good ideas.

Seems the cuts are having some of the desired effect. Although I do wonder who you'll be selling stuff to.

Illegal things to undesirable types in order to bring ruin and chaos to... wait, no sorry. I am not starting a bank.

Like I said, we will bat a couple of ideas around. We already had the plan to start up a business back in school a couple of years ago, we have all taken business classes and such. The hope being that we will be doing something we enjoy whilst hanging out with friends, who doesnt want to get paid to do that?

 

[The Cheezy One]

Read about this this morning. I wonder if the government realises we are in about one trillion pounds debt to America, and have been since WW2. No amount of scrimping will solve that in 4 years, and will only make peoples lives worse in the meantime. Labour, come back! All is forgiven!

Actually the war debts were paid back in 2006.

oh, so we arent completely in the shitter. You have to admit though, we are very quickly leaving the sphincter thanks to butt muscles cameron and clegg

 

[Verlander]

oh it gets much better than that.

after April 2013 public sector tenants on Jobseekers Allowance for 12 months will have their housing benefit cut to 90 per cent which in effect means they will be made homeless and without a home address...

Cameron did take a pay cut btw but it's meaningless as his middle class existence is a political facade.

he's the Queens cousin ffs!

i'm not even going to mention Baron Osborne of Ballentaylor...

If he's Middle Class, I'm from the middle-fucking-ages. He's an upper class millionaire toff, and if our situation is "so bad", he can work pro rata. He is a public servant, and earns more a month on interest, than I currently earn a year

(I'm agreeing with you btw)

 

[Hosker]

Looks like mutiny to me.

 

[SenseOfTumour]

I'll just add another point to your post then give my conclusion:

* About 490,000 public sector jobs likely to be lost - Unemployed people.



Basically we're gonna have a ton more homeless people on the streets being forced to commit crimes because that's literally the only way they can survive, we have less police to deal with this rise in crime and to top it all off all these fresh homeless people can't vote against the wankers in charge of the country because they have no place of residence.

Noone can say I didn't tell them the conservatives would fuck the poor over and put this country in a far worse situation than it was in before.

And anyway, the government lose far far more money to tax evasion than benefits theft but they won't do anything about that because all those conservative tossers probably do it themselves.

They won't ever have to do anthing about it all the time the Sun and the Mail exist, telling the whole country that lower class benefit claimaints (legit or not) and immigrants (legal or not) are the only two problems in the country, the amounts 'stolen' by benefit claimants are nearly always wildly exaggerated.

When I was unemployed, and forced to live with my parents again, I got around £40 a week to live on, which is fine, I shouldn't be getting luxury budgets, but how many jobless people could be supported all year on one MP's fraudulent expenses claims? How many entire towns of benefits could be covered by the tax evasion of one of Cameron's multi millionaire friends?

There's something seriously wrong with a system, where the more money you have, you less you have to pay for. Still drives me nuts that the only way to get celebs to showbiz events, where they get free food and drink and get to publicise themselves, is to give them a free 'goodie bag' full of £1000s of free stuff. Similar concept with only the rich being able to afford the accountants skilled enough to help them avoid paying tax.

What I can't understand, unless my own conspiracy theory is true, is why the Conservatives get voted in, they're for the rich and against the poor, and there's so many more poor voters than rich ones. I think the Lib Dems made a stupid mistake by going in with Cameron, I think if they'd left the Tories to it, they'd have walked into power easily in 2014.