The New UK Spending Cuts

[gallaetha_matt]

People should find more work in the private sector, not hard. I do see where you're coming from, cutting jobs is not the best way to encourage spending. Still, an interesting economic case study

Thank you for taking my post calmly though, too many people rage at political debates on the internet

The thing is though, the public sector jobs that we've lost won't just reappear in the private sector. It'll be up to private businesses to decide whether they want to hire or not -and judging from present experience, most private businesses would prefer to close their doors
and save money.

So basically those 500,000 jobs are gone.

I've been arguing with strangers on the internet since 2002. I know that raging and getting annoyed might be fun, but it rarely serves to get your point across. Cheers for your patience, as well. Political stuff tends to get heated on the web and it's nice to actually talk about the issues.

I agree with gallaetha_matt, his sentiments mirror my own. (That's got nothing to do with him being a fellow scouser though...no really it hasn't)

We have to stick together. Especially on the internet - where very few people know what a scouser is.

 

[JordanMillward_1]

The cuts suck, but if Labour hadn't spent money we didn't have, we likely wouldn't be in this sort of situation. But then, when was the last time Labour were in power and didn't leave the country bankrupt or well on the way to it?

 

[Kinguendo]

So you didn't vote in the election?

Don't really have any right to start whining that things aren't going the way you'd like them to then do you?

Wrong! Just because I had the presence of mind to foresee how events WOULD play out (and they did, exactly as I predicted they would) I chose not to vote. My vote for liberals would have gone to exactly the people I didnt want to vote for! My vote, my choice!

 

[Kinguendo]

Yes, because I was seriously suggesting that website coupled with the fairly arbitrary search criteria I did had every possible vacancy for young people in the whole of the UK. There's a job out there for her somewhere, maybe she's not applied to the right places, maybe she needs more qualifications, maybe she needs to spend time doing volunteer work to get experience, maybe she needs to move to another area to get one, but there will be one.

That said, if she really is struggling to find a job after posting her CV everywhere, maybe she should make sure her CV and covering letters are good. Lots of employers turn them down for the silliest reasons.

Oh, were you? Because I was being sarcastic in most of my comment.

Doesnt exactly null the point that on the topic of youth we cant ignore the fact that they clearly wont have experience outside of paper routes and qualifications and that simply isnt enough, as I did make quite clear in my last comment... there is only really a set amount of jobs the young can even think of applying for and in that catagory you found 840 jobs, which still wont guarantee the young a job because lets not forget that the more experienced can still apply for those jobs anyway.

id like to add my experience of this.

recently i interveiwed for a position along with 200 other applicants. after making it to the final stage i got the the "thanks for coming but we arnt hiring you". when i asked why i wasnt hired the lady told me "well you interviewed very well your a little overqualified but thats not a bad thing by any means but the 10 candidates we chose were more experienced...if it helps if for any reason one of those ten doesnt take the job you'll automatically get there position you were basically number 11." i was kinda crushed :/

That "overqualified" comment must have been a kick to the nuts. You worked your ass off for your qualifications and then people say "Overqualified... bye.".

 

[Kinguendo]

Oh psh. I'm barely qualified to do anything yet when I applied for a part time till job I got it.

What? Do those not count anymore? What you people shouldn't be saying is "there are no jobs". You should be saying "there aren't any jobs I think myself too good for available".

Yeah, I got a job too but when I got it I wasnt so self-involved that I didnt notice every other person who applied didnt get the job. What? Do you think you were the ONLY person that applied for that job? If you read my other comments you would see that "No jobs" doesnt literally mean "No jobs", the sheer volume of people looking for work versus the amount of available jobs means that if you have just left school you dont have good odds. Just because YOU got a job doesnt mean shit, there are still millions of people who are unemployed and every year more people leave school to add to the rush.

 

[Dogstile]

Oh psh. I'm barely qualified to do anything yet when I applied for a part time till job I got it.

What? Do those not count anymore? What you people shouldn't be saying is "there are no jobs". You should be saying "there aren't any jobs I think myself too good for available".

Yeah, I got a job too but when I got it I wasnt so self-involved that I didnt notice every other person who applied didnt get the job. What? Do you think you were the ONLY person that applied for that job? If you read my other comments you would see that "No jobs" doesnt literally mean "No jobs", the sheer volume of people looking for work versus the amount of available jobs means that if you have just left school you dont have good odds. Just because YOU got a job doesnt mean shit, there are still millions of people who are unemployed and every year more people leave school to add to the rush.

Oh i'm totally self involved. I don't know a single person who is not currently studying or working. Literally everyone that I know has managed to get a job. Are you telling me that the 40 people i'm talking about, have all managed to defy the odds? Yeah sure other people didn't get the job. If they were smart they would have applied to 5, 6 maybe 10 places while waiting for a confirmation from just one of them.

Hell, i've never /met/ a jobless person aside from the people i've met who are content to sit on the dole because they don't want to do a till job. That's my personal experience on the matter.

You can get a job, if you look hard enough.

 

[Kinguendo]

Oh psh. I'm barely qualified to do anything yet when I applied for a part time till job I got it.

What? Do those not count anymore? What you people shouldn't be saying is "there are no jobs". You should be saying "there aren't any jobs I think myself too good for available".

Yeah, I got a job too but when I got it I wasnt so self-involved that I didnt notice every other person who applied didnt get the job. What? Do you think you were the ONLY person that applied for that job? If you read my other comments you would see that "No jobs" doesnt literally mean "No jobs", the sheer volume of people looking for work versus the amount of available jobs means that if you have just left school you dont have good odds. Just because YOU got a job doesnt mean shit, there are still millions of people who are unemployed and every year more people leave school to add to the rush.

Oh i'm totally self involved. I don't know a single person who is not currently studying or working. Literally everyone that I know has managed to get a job. Are you telling me that the 40 people i'm talking about, have all managed to defy the odds? Yeah sure other people didn't get the job. If they were smart they would have applied to 5, 6 maybe 10 places while waiting for a confirmation from just one of them.

Hell, i've never /met/ a jobless person aside from the people i've met who are content to sit on the dole because they don't want to do a till job. That's my personal experience on the matter.

You can get a job, if you look hard enough.

This is the funniest shit ever, you thought you were proving that you werent self-involved... then you rambled on about your own experience and how the only people without jobs didnt want them. Fucking classic.

XD

 

[Dogstile]

Oh psh. I'm barely qualified to do anything yet when I applied for a part time till job I got it.

What? Do those not count anymore? What you people shouldn't be saying is "there are no jobs". You should be saying "there aren't any jobs I think myself too good for available".

Yeah, I got a job too but when I got it I wasnt so self-involved that I didnt notice every other person who applied didnt get the job. What? Do you think you were the ONLY person that applied for that job? If you read my other comments you would see that "No jobs" doesnt literally mean "No jobs", the sheer volume of people looking for work versus the amount of available jobs means that if you have just left school you dont have good odds. Just because YOU got a job doesnt mean shit, there are still millions of people who are unemployed and every year more people leave school to add to the rush.

Oh i'm totally self involved. I don't know a single person who is not currently studying or working. Literally everyone that I know has managed to get a job. Are you telling me that the 40 people i'm talking about, have all managed to defy the odds? Yeah sure other people didn't get the job. If they were smart they would have applied to 5, 6 maybe 10 places while waiting for a confirmation from just one of them.

Hell, i've never /met/ a jobless person aside from the people i've met who are content to sit on the dole because they don't want to do a till job. That's my personal experience on the matter.

You can get a job, if you look hard enough.

This is the funniest shit ever, you thought you were proving that you werent self-involved... then you rambled on about your own experience and how the only people without jobs didnt want them. Fucking classic.

XD

Oh i'm sorry >.>. Lets not speak from personal experience and instead speak out of my arse. Self involved and personal experience are different things.

I never said all people without jobs didn't want them, I said in my personal experience. What am I supposed to do, make up an imaginary world and go "Nobody has jobs! That's how the world works! Oh teh noes!!!!"

 

[Kinguendo]

Oh i'm sorry >.>. Lets not speak from personal experience and instead speak out of my arse. Self involved and personal experience are different things.

I never said all people without jobs didn't want them, I said in my personal experience. What am I supposed to do, make up an imaginary world and go "Nobody has jobs! That's how the world works! Oh teh noes!!!!"

No, you were only saying it was your personal experience in the last comment. And it isnt either extreme, clearly I am saying look beyond yourself for just a second. Shockingly you dont need to know others to witness what is happening.

If all you are saying is solely about people around you then your point is irrelevent for anyone who doesnt know you... thats the majority of the people on the planet. So make your choice... either you are speaking about your experience and your point doesnt matter OR you are self-centered and lose the argument anyway because you are claiming everything is as it is with you.

 

[Dogstile]

Oh i'm sorry >.>. Lets not speak from personal experience and instead speak out of my arse. Self involved and personal experience are different things.

I never said all people without jobs didn't want them, I said in my personal experience. What am I supposed to do, make up an imaginary world and go "Nobody has jobs! That's how the world works! Oh teh noes!!!!"

No, you were only saying it was your personal experience in the last comment. And it isnt either extreme, clearly I am saying look beyond yourself for just a second. Shockingly you dont need to know others to witness what is happening.

If all you are saying is solely about people around you then your point is irrelevent for anyone who doesnt know you... thats the majority of the people on the planet. So make your choice... either you are speaking about your experience and your point doesnt matter OR you are self-centered and lose the argument anyway because you are claiming everything is as it is with you.

Well next time i'll make sure to spell it out for you that its personal experience. That was the point of my post and you've blown it waaaaaaaayyyyy out of proportion. Again, I said "I" couldn't see any of this no job stuff and in my experience people who complain are avoiding "worse" jobs. If theres a problem with saying that, then that's your issue, not mine.

Christ, you'd think i'd made a racist joke.

 

[Kinguendo]

Oh i'm sorry >.>. Lets not speak from personal experience and instead speak out of my arse. Self involved and personal experience are different things.

I never said all people without jobs didn't want them, I said in my personal experience. What am I supposed to do, make up an imaginary world and go "Nobody has jobs! That's how the world works! Oh teh noes!!!!"

No, you were only saying it was your personal experience in the last comment. And it isnt either extreme, clearly I am saying look beyond yourself for just a second. Shockingly you dont need to know others to witness what is happening.

If all you are saying is solely about people around you then your point is irrelevent for anyone who doesnt know you... thats the majority of the people on the planet. So make your choice... either you are speaking about your experience and your point doesnt matter OR you are self-centered and lose the argument anyway because you are claiming everything is as it is with you.

Well next time i'll make sure to spell it out for you that its personal experience. That was the point of my post and you've blown it waaaaaaaayyyyy out of proportion. Again, I said "I" couldn't see any of this no job stuff and in my experience people who complain are avoiding "worse" jobs. If theres a problem with saying that, then that's your issue, not mine.

Christ, you'd think i'd made a racist joke.

Your the one who threw your hat into the ring about a national debate with your narrow views... nobody is to blame for the outcome other than you.

 

[Dogstile]

Oh i'm sorry >.>. Lets not speak from personal experience and instead speak out of my arse. Self involved and personal experience are different things.

I never said all people without jobs didn't want them, I said in my personal experience. What am I supposed to do, make up an imaginary world and go "Nobody has jobs! That's how the world works! Oh teh noes!!!!"

No, you were only saying it was your personal experience in the last comment. And it isnt either extreme, clearly I am saying look beyond yourself for just a second. Shockingly you dont need to know others to witness what is happening.

If all you are saying is solely about people around you then your point is irrelevent for anyone who doesnt know you... thats the majority of the people on the planet. So make your choice... either you are speaking about your experience and your point doesnt matter OR you are self-centered and lose the argument anyway because you are claiming everything is as it is with you.

Well next time i'll make sure to spell it out for you that its personal experience. That was the point of my post and you've blown it waaaaaaaayyyyy out of proportion. Again, I said "I" couldn't see any of this no job stuff and in my experience people who complain are avoiding "worse" jobs. If theres a problem with saying that, then that's your issue, not mine.

Christ, you'd think i'd made a racist joke.

Your the one who threw your hat into the ring about a national debate with your narrow views... nobody is to blame for the outcome other than you.

I threw my hat in with my experience. If this is the response I get its no wonder nobody wants to get involved in politics. Experience is how I speak, deal with it.

 

[Kinguendo]

Oh i'm sorry >.>. Lets not speak from personal experience and instead speak out of my arse. Self involved and personal experience are different things.

I never said all people without jobs didn't want them, I said in my personal experience. What am I supposed to do, make up an imaginary world and go "Nobody has jobs! That's how the world works! Oh teh noes!!!!"

No, you were only saying it was your personal experience in the last comment. And it isnt either extreme, clearly I am saying look beyond yourself for just a second. Shockingly you dont need to know others to witness what is happening.

If all you are saying is solely about people around you then your point is irrelevent for anyone who doesnt know you... thats the majority of the people on the planet. So make your choice... either you are speaking about your experience and your point doesnt matter OR you are self-centered and lose the argument anyway because you are claiming everything is as it is with you.

Well next time i'll make sure to spell it out for you that its personal experience. That was the point of my post and you've blown it waaaaaaaayyyyy out of proportion. Again, I said "I" couldn't see any of this no job stuff and in my experience people who complain are avoiding "worse" jobs. If theres a problem with saying that, then that's your issue, not mine.

Christ, you'd think i'd made a racist joke.

Your the one who threw your hat into the ring about a national debate with your narrow views... nobody is to blame for the outcome other than you.

I threw my hat in with my experience. If this is the response I get its no wonder nobody wants to get involved in politics. Experience is how I speak, deal with it.

How cant you get this? You are putting YOUR limited view against the arguments put forward by the majority of the country... you lose. All those people saying they cant get jobs... yeah, they outweigh you.

 

[Dogstile]

Oh i'm sorry >.>. Lets not speak from personal experience and instead speak out of my arse. Self involved and personal experience are different things.

I never said all people without jobs didn't want them, I said in my personal experience. What am I supposed to do, make up an imaginary world and go "Nobody has jobs! That's how the world works! Oh teh noes!!!!"

No, you were only saying it was your personal experience in the last comment. And it isnt either extreme, clearly I am saying look beyond yourself for just a second. Shockingly you dont need to know others to witness what is happening.

If all you are saying is solely about people around you then your point is irrelevent for anyone who doesnt know you... thats the majority of the people on the planet. So make your choice... either you are speaking about your experience and your point doesnt matter OR you are self-centered and lose the argument anyway because you are claiming everything is as it is with you.

Well next time i'll make sure to spell it out for you that its personal experience. That was the point of my post and you've blown it waaaaaaaayyyyy out of proportion. Again, I said "I" couldn't see any of this no job stuff and in my experience people who complain are avoiding "worse" jobs. If theres a problem with saying that, then that's your issue, not mine.

Christ, you'd think i'd made a racist joke.

Your the one who threw your hat into the ring about a national debate with your narrow views... nobody is to blame for the outcome other than you.

I threw my hat in with my experience. If this is the response I get its no wonder nobody wants to get involved in politics. Experience is how I speak, deal with it.

How cant you get this? You are putting YOUR limited view against the arguments put forward by the majority of the country... you lose. All those people saying they cant get jobs... yeah, they outweigh you.

I like weighing their opinion against the millions of people who can find work. If the majority of the company was out of work we'd be in much more trouble than we're in.

 

[Kinguendo]

I like weighing their opinion against the millions of people who can find work. If the majority of the company was out of work we'd be in much more trouble than we're in.

People are supposed to be employed... just because the majority of people are doesnt mean that there isnt an unemployment problem. In case you havent noticed, the number of people unemployed is rising, not falling.