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Overall id have to say there were a few laughs here and there but it wasnt amazing.
But i have to say i did like the final plot twist using old series to relate to even though it was in your face obvious from the start.
I was expecting alot more but having such high hopes being an avid Red Dwarf fan maybe i was expecting too much. It had small moments but overall pretty dissapointing.
But i have to say i did like the final plot twist using old series to relate to even though it was in your face obvious from the start.
I was expecting alot more but having such high hopes being an avid Red Dwarf fan maybe i was expecting too much. It had small moments but overall pretty dissapointing.
I thought the first episode was good, but when they left the red dwarf universe i felt that the series had left its area where it was best. I'm not saying the new episodes are bad, the second one had a few brilliant moments but the fell of it just isn't right I think
I thought it was a Despair Squid from the start but I wasn't entirely sure. My suspicions were aroused when I saw it was a squid. A squid in Red Dwarf automatically equals a despair squid. But anyway, other than that it was rather enjoyable. I was worried from the second episode that the whole thing was just so Doug Naylor could have a cameo and then it'd fall the pieces.
Don't forget guys, if these episodes get a good reception Doug Naylor has said that depending on the reception of the episodes, they might make a new series. So those few that are nitpicking and whining that CG ruined it and Norman Lovett wasn't in it there for it's horrible, don't ruin it for the rest of us that want another series. Sure it wasn't as good as the early series, but it was no way near as bad as Series VIII :/
The typewriter bit with Rimmer and Kryten was close to the old slapstick Red Dwarf but without the laugh track it didn't feel the same.
Don't forget guys, if these episodes get a good reception Doug Naylor has said that depending on the reception of the episodes, they might make a new series. So those few that are nitpicking and whining that CG ruined it and Norman Lovett wasn't in it there for it's horrible, don't ruin it for the rest of us that want another series. Sure it wasn't as good as the early series, but it was no way near as bad as Series VIII :/
Well, Ive been satisfied all along, and its great to see with each episode its got better. When you think about it, the twist makes perfect sense.
To Dougs credit, he tied it in excellently, not to mention in a typical Dwarf style. I cant fault the plot writing, but I will say the comedy writing definitely doesnt match up to the old episodes. However, I am able to forgive this, since for the first time after series 7 & 8 (which I didnt like), I have approached this episode not expecting Rob Grant & Doug Naylor writing. This overall made me appriciate all the laughs it did give me, and there were a fair few of them. Its not a patch on series 1-6, but in fairness, I cant think of another comedy that is. Taking it for what its worth -which is one of the original two writers having another crack at Red Dwarf- I think Doug did an excellent job overall, and Im very satisfied.
If I could take Rob & Doug Dwarf together again, I would snatch it back in a nanosecond. However, if this is the Dwarf we have to live with from now on, then its not such a bad thing after all as far as Im concerned. Props to Doug Naylor I say, along with the boys from the Dwarf and everyone involved in making BTE. It was a fun, at times hilarious, not to mention nostalgic, almost tribute to the old Red Dwarf. Not forgetting also a brilliant, maybe at times a little too excessive but still enjoyable Blade Runner parody. I hope it doesnt end here, because a "not so good as old Red Dwarf, but still pretty good Red Dwarf" is better than "no Red Dwarf at all". Well, at least thats certainly how I feel.
Back to reality was voted the fans all time favourite episode.
If I could take Rob & Doug Dwarf together again, I would snatch it back in a nanosecond. However, if this is the Dwarf we have to live with from now on, then its not such a bad thing after all as far as Im concerned. Props to Doug Naylor I say, along with the boys from the Dwarf and everyone involved in making BTE. It was a fun, at times hilarious, not to mention nostalgic, almost tribute to the old Red Dwarf. Not forgetting also a brilliant, maybe at times a little too excessive but still enjoyable Blade Runner parody. I hope it doesnt end here, because a "not so good as old Red Dwarf, but still pretty good Red Dwarf" is better than "no Red Dwarf at all". Well, at least thats certainly how I feel.
I'm a big Red Dwarf fan. I found this this 3 part special diabolical... It was shocking! It just didn't have the humor the old episodes did. One of the big thing that ruined it for me was that the special effects were too good, thats what made the old ones great. I really wished they had just left Red Dwarf as it was, and not ruining it with this 3 part piece of shit.
Does any one else also think this?
Does any one else also think this?
Hmmm it had postmodernism which didnt make me want to twist out my own brain, which after three years of a writing course is quite an achievement. I thought that the second episode was a little forced and was sure I was going to hate the third episode however I was really happy with it from the Coronation Street Dialect to the Rakes it ran the gamut of what I regard as funny and even poked fun at a certain cast members drug problems.
On a side note I didnt think Doctor who was abysmal.
I liked the fact that they have made the effects better, Dwarf in its hayday was about lampooning the sf of the time which was bad low budget creaky Dr Who and blakes seven etal. Now everything is shiny and cg so it only makes sense that the effects in the Dwarf reflect the sea change!
I liked it alot and have my fingers crossed for a new series as tight as those three episodes, who knows they may get everyone back if they continue.
On a side note I didnt think Doctor who was abysmal.
I liked the fact that they have made the effects better, Dwarf in its hayday was about lampooning the sf of the time which was bad low budget creaky Dr Who and blakes seven etal. Now everything is shiny and cg so it only makes sense that the effects in the Dwarf reflect the sea change!
I liked it alot and have my fingers crossed for a new series as tight as those three episodes, who knows they may get everyone back if they continue.
I think it was pretty good overall. I did find myself wanting to die when they shoehorned the dave reference in and the part at the end of the third episode
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Overall it should have just been compressed into two episodes to cut the slack jokes and scenes that padded it out. Red dwarf has always been about the jokes and banter rather than plot, and it showed when it was stretched out past an hour. That most people wouldn't get the blade runner jokes (the last episode was pretty much an extended mickey take of several of the scenes) is a shame too.
Overall it was not bad considering what it could have been.Bring on a new series, just cut out the self indulgence!
when they talk about multi verses. I remember an exact episode where as they try to be serious about what has happened and explain it technically and then they are deliberately cut off as red dwarf has always parodied serious sci fi. Should have ended it that way.
Overall it should have just been compressed into two episodes to cut the slack jokes and scenes that padded it out. Red dwarf has always been about the jokes and banter rather than plot, and it showed when it was stretched out past an hour. That most people wouldn't get the blade runner jokes (the last episode was pretty much an extended mickey take of several of the scenes) is a shame too.
Overall it was not bad considering what it could have been.Bring on a new series, just cut out the self indulgence!
Very good show. I've seen one episode(can't seem to find it anymore, hard show to track down in the U.S.)whilst fumbling through various basic cable channel in the wee hours of the morning. It was funny as hell. It was the episode where the ship is a drill instructor. Excellent!
I don't know what to think. The first part was boring but that's reasonable since it was obviously just setting up for the other two. The second was great in a HANG ON, WHAT? kinda way, while the third was, um, I guess too much Blade Runner which I haven't seen. So, shrug, I guess.
So as far as the future goes...
So as far as the future goes...
Doug says he'll never make a series 9, but would like to make a series 10. Feel free to explain that one.
As far as I'm concerned he'd be better off declaring series 7 and 8 non-canon, distancing himself from all that nonsense and starting again at the end of series 6, but never mind that.
As far as I'm concerned he'd be better off declaring series 7 and 8 non-canon, distancing himself from all that nonsense and starting again at the end of series 6, but never mind that.
In the show they mention what 'happened' in the fictional series 9. Which in reality never got made of course. So it would have to go on from series 10, which would actually be series 9...if you follow. I was very disappointed with the whole mess to be honest. I hope they dont make any more episodes, no show is still going to be as good after 8 series, especially with a sci fi setting. Also, we'd have to keep pretending Rimmer is an ageless hologram, which is proving rather difficult due to his waistline...
I didn't even know there was anything new.
But I do remember some old stuff:
'I mean, OK, he was a drug-crazed transvestite, but at least we could have gone dancing!'
But I do remember some old stuff:
'I mean, OK, he was a drug-crazed transvestite, but at least we could have gone dancing!'
In MY opinion, yes! I only found my self slightly giggling once of twice. In the old episode i was laughing every second! Its a cult comedy its suppose to do that!
It reached a low in episode two, but episode three seemed quite clever, even if it wasn't that funny. I was worried it would repeat the Cassandra thing from series 7 (or 8?) with them following a script. It left it open at least...sort of...Put simply - The old series were better. They did reference it a few times at least.
Is it odd that I missed the laughter track?
Is it odd that I missed the laughter track?
I've only seen 1 and 2 so far and on the whole, I'm not impressed. First of all, it took awhile to get over the lack of canned laughter and the shiny CG effects. But once you got over it theres really not much here. The show moves too slowly, half the jokes don't work, and [b/]*spoiler*[/b] the whole finding out they where in a TV show thing? It's a gag that half of the failing shows out there pull and it really doesn't feel right, even with some of the rediculous stuff that happen in Red Dwarf before [b/]*end spoilers*[/b]
But I did laugh hard once or twice, I loved the joke in the department store with the clerk and the scanner especially. But it's certainly not Red Dwarf, and I'm really not sure if I'm going to watch episode 3.
But I did laugh hard once or twice, I loved the joke in the department store with the clerk and the scanner especially. But it's certainly not Red Dwarf, and I'm really not sure if I'm going to watch episode 3.
Suicide squid mark II just without Dwayne Dibbly, how the hell does that even work?
No but seriously did anyone else feel that their was some serious self promotion going on. The whole having a TV channel named after Dave Lister, it just felt like that whole scene on the bus was tacked on just to promote the fact that Dave had brought Red Dwarf back. I know for a fact had this happened on the BBC that scene would never have seen the light of day.
Of the three episodes, the first was the best. It felt closer to old school Red Dwarf then scene were Rimmer is explaining why Holly wasn't working anymore was pretty good. After that the story took a very weird slant.
Some annoying stuff
- No Holly
- No Starbug and no carbug was not a suitable replacement
- The end scene with the creator and Lister writting new scenes for them, very very close to the death books in Discworld.
- Three minutes of Kochanski was three minutes too much
No but seriously did anyone else feel that their was some serious self promotion going on. The whole having a TV channel named after Dave Lister, it just felt like that whole scene on the bus was tacked on just to promote the fact that Dave had brought Red Dwarf back. I know for a fact had this happened on the BBC that scene would never have seen the light of day.
Of the three episodes, the first was the best. It felt closer to old school Red Dwarf then scene were Rimmer is explaining why Holly wasn't working anymore was pretty good. After that the story took a very weird slant.
Some annoying stuff
- No Holly
- No Starbug and no carbug was not a suitable replacement
- The end scene with the creator and Lister writting new scenes for them, very very close to the death books in Discworld.
- Three minutes of Kochanski was three minutes too much