The Old Republic Downloads to be Exclusive to EA's "Origin" Service

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Blind0bserver

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Not a smart move, EA. Not a smart move.

Let's use an analogy real quick, shall we? Let's say, for argument's sake, that toast is a major commodity and you just invented "Super Toast". The specifics of why your toast is "super" don't really matter, but it's still damn good toast and everyone wants some of it.

Clearly you want to make money off of your toast that there's a lot of hype and expectation for, so now you just need to decide where to sell it. You could decide to sell it in a store with a lot of distribution strength and name-brand recognition to it, like Wal-Mart, but you don't do that. No, instead you sell your toast through Boyd's Toast, a store that's just been opened up by your crazy uncle Boyd that lives in that shed in Utah.

Now, there's one major reason why you screwed up. Selling solely through Boyd's Toast doesn't help you, it helps him. What's happening is that your product is currently being sold in far less market outlets than it can be, hurting your overall profit. Meanwhile, the faithful that really want "Super Toast" are coming to Boyd's Toast to buy it, meaning that the previously unheard of and otherwise un-noteworthy store is getting increased foot traffic because it's the only place customers can get it.

Alright, I'm going to abandon the silly toast comparison to make my point; with this move EA seems torn between what it wants more, a WoW Killer or a Steam Killer. They certainly can't have both given how entrenched their competition already is, but EA is gradually pissing away what chances ST:TOR has of being their "Wow Killer" by restricting digital access to Origin in a clumsy effort to make their new service's user base grow.

Will this give Origin a userbase and help it grow? Well, some, that's pretty much a given, but Ea will be lucky if this move gives them the user base of digital distribution runner-up Impulse, let alone Steam. Origin is really not what EA needs to be focusing their efforts on. Given the amount of money and resources they've lavished onto TOR's development, which is considerable, it's a game that EA needs to be successful at all costs if they want to even make their investment back, let alone make a profit, and making their be less outlets to buy the game isn't going to help their cause.

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AsurasFinest

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Their idiots trying to compete with Steam
You know why?
Because Steam has cheap, cheap games, supports indies and giving them an area to shine,has an excellent interface for accessing everything I need and it most PC games use it

What are the bets EAs one will not only fail to understand this and why emulating it would be good, but go completely in the other direction and charge retail price on digital games

Besides that they want as many sales as possible for this thing and are limiting online downloads to their thing only? How stupid can that be
 

Delusibeta

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Vanguard1219 said:
Will this give Origin a userbase and help it grow? Well, some, that's pretty much a given, but Ea will be lucky if this move gives them the user base of digital distribution runner-up Impulse, let alone Steam. Origin is really not what EA needs to be focusing their efforts on. Given the amount of money and resources they've lavished onto TOR's development, which is considerable, it's a game that EA needs to be successful at all costs if they want to even make their investment back, let alone make a profit, and making their be less outlets to buy the game isn't going to help their cause.
The problem is this arguement is that, well, Origin already has a userbase: anyone who has an EA account. It's a rebranding exercise, and not a lot else. Plus they confirmed a retail release, which will require an EA... err, Origin account.
 

Zenn3k

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Wow, they are trying really hard to make this game fail aren't they?

No Mac version, and now this.

Might as well just cancel the damn thing.
 

Antari

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manythings said:
Antari said:
Not alot of skin off my back. I already plan not to buy The Old Republic. The lame space/rail-shooter from the 80's was about as creative as copying Steam outright.
You're main problem is a part of the game that makes up less that 1% of the whole thing? Good job.
If they are willing to put that little effort into one part of the game, I don't really care to see where they've cut corners else where.
 

evilomega13

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*sigh* Great job EA. Great job. I get another useless program on my computer. Because I -really- needed that.

If I can just buy a hard copy and have nothing to do with it, I'm not going to be bothered, although I'm quite sure this -will- hurt the games sales (Just put it on Steam, for crying out loud). If I have to put up with it whether I download or buy in store....I am going to be pissed, make no mistake.
 

Brian Hendershot

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I honestly don't see the problem...?

If you don't want to download it...buy it off the shelf? Really people get worked up over THIS?

Sure if your a gamer who downloads to play games, this could be a bit of a pain, but then why not sign up to the Origin system? You had to sign up to Steam to buy the games off there, so what's the difference...or am i missing the point?

Yeah. I fail to see why the Internet Rage machine is started up anyways. I prefer to have a physical copy of games or music anyways.
 

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Quesa said:
manythings said:
Quesa said:
manythings said:
Antari said:
Not alot of skin off my back. I already plan not to buy The Old Republic. The lame space/rail-shooter from the 80's was about as creative as copying Steam outright.
You are main problem is a part of the game that makes up less that 1% of the whole thing? Good job.
Part of the reason I was turned off as well; not the only reason, but it certainly left a poor taste in my mouth. Certainly some left over angst from SOE's failings on my part.

It seems a bit like sending back the steak because there was a sprig of parsley on it.
In your analogy, I presume this steak is a perfectly cooked and seasoned rib-eye; instead imagine a watered down and bloated WoW clone with a sprig of parsley rather than a legitimate space-based combat element.
In my analogy your so obsessed by the parsley you aren't even glancing at the steak.
 

Anjel

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Cutting your nose off to spite your face.

With the massive amount of games available on Steam I cannot remember the last time I played a non-Steam game. Games that have been released that I wanted to play and that were not available on Steam have until now gone unplayed by myself. This isn't me being pissy, if I get bored of what is on my Steam account I'll download elsewhere or buy retail. It just hasn't happened yet.

Hope EA know what they are getting themselves into here.
 

MisterShine

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Amazon is still the cheapest downloadable games store by a mile.

If Origins doesn't compete with their prices or with the wide selection of Steam, I see no way they can reasonably compete.

If only they'd do some frickin' advertising..
 

Sonic Doctor

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HankMan said:
OH NOZ! Either sign up for Origin, or go out and buy a physical copy!
Just like I do with all my games!
Seriously when did leaving the house to get a game become too much work?
It really isn't the work part. It is the using of gas to go get the game. It may only take technically five minutes to drive over to the nearest game store to me, but then take into account the five minutes back. Though with traffic the way it has been, that 10 minute drive round trip turns into a 20 minute round trip on most days.

Though that can be remedied and people can still get a physical copy if they buy from Amazon or some such place on the Net and have it delivered.

I actually ended up paying two dollars less having Dragon Age 2 delivered to me(launch date delivery), than my two friends who pre-ordered at GameStop. I paid $60.99, the 0.99 was for shipping, while my friends each paid 63 and a bit of change because of sales tax.

So delivery removes high sales tax and it removes the having to download extra programs to buy games.

Edit: Plus it takes away having to use fuel to go get the game.
 

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Thing is, I'm betting TOR will be integrated into Origin's services and as such, will be required to play whether you download it or buy a physical copy. So get used to it, future TOR players (and I am among you).

I don't see the problem. As long as it doesn't try to keep updating while I'm not using it or doing anything else annoying, then it's no big deal. What do I care about one more little program on my desktop? Why would anyone care? I feel like people just have a knee-jerk reaction to EA.
 

dropZero

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I won't be getting the digital download then. It'll be a hard copy for me. Seriously, what's the point of this? I can see the point of making some games exclusive to select digital distribution services. Specifically, games that don't require a subscription fee to generate revenue...

This whole thing just seems like a very bold and equally retarded move. The Old Republic is the most expensive game EA has ever produced. Restricting its sale to Origin is going to limit its customer base. This is just going to stack the odds against this game being as successful as it could be.
 

Kian2

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Wow. They're going to cripple their super expensive MMO to prop up a digital distribution service?

They're publishers, they're already making money of their games being sold. The only reason to go to the expense of making a digital distribution service (another huge investment, since they're going to need the servers to send terabytes of content to millions of subscribers, ideally) is to attract other publishers and sell their games. And they're not going to do that by sending the message that they mean to hold a monopoly on their own games.

So stupid. Who makes these kinds of decisions? Is EA trolling us?
 

BoogieManFL

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HankMan said:
Seriously when did leaving the house to get a game become too much work?
Cause the outside is all bright and scary.


.. But seriously I use digital downloads often because I ask myself: Okay you can set it to download and have it in an hour or two, and you can go watch some TV, eat lunch, play another game, or try to get some sexy time with the lady.. OR I can go drive a round trip of about 38-42 minutes depending on traffic. If it's around a school on the route lets out, add about 15 minutes and add the cost of gas on top of it all. And my time.


My point is, it really depends on the circumstances of your area, how close the store is to you and what driving is like.
 

A-D.

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*Facepalm*

I cant actually give any other reaction to this news than that. I understand that EA might want their own service for MMOs and such, i.e. their own Steam. I dont see the Point in it however. Do we really need several Services we have to be registered to? I mean what if you have 2 Games on Steam, and 5 on "Origin"? You need both because you cant play the 2 Steam ones on the Origin thingy and vice versa. Thats utter Bullshit. I really dont see how anyone at EA thought this was a good Idea. It wont make Steam Users flock to their thing, especially given that Steam has had to prove itself to be reliable and save, which EA's thingy has yet to do.

But really other than "What the hell are they thinking" doesnt come to mind. I wont be playing TOR anyway, given that both LucasArts and Bioware, although im not blaming Bioware for it, are raping the Star Wars Canon as it is. Real actual Sith (Species you know) surviving for 1000 Years? Yeah right..
 

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rsvp42 said:
Thing is, I'm betting TOR will be integrated into Origin's services and as such, will be required to play whether you download it or buy a physical copy. So get used to it, future TOR players (and I am among you).

I don't see the problem. As long as it doesn't try to keep updating while I'm not using it or doing anything else annoying, then it's no big deal. What do I care about one more little program on my desktop? Why would anyone care? I feel like people just have a knee-jerk reaction to EA.
To be fair, that knee jerk is based on past experience. We've learned to expect sneaky things from them because they have been sneaky and we've fallen for it. Hopefully they use this as an opportunity to fix some of their rather substantial PR problems.

In theory I don't really mind an EA digital distribution system. Hopefully this means they'll start investing in more low budget, low priced games to fill out their catalogue. Could mean great things for smaller studios. Maybe EA picks up a few of the smaller studio franchises and makes AAA games in cooperation with them, thus heralding a new golden age in gaming.

While I'm at it I'd like a pony.
 

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iniudan said:
HankMan said:
OH NOZ! Either sign up for Origin, or go out and buy a physical copy!
Just like I do with all my games!
Seriously when did leaving the house to get a game become too much work?
Since about 3 years here, need to go about 2 hours of road for a store with decent PC game selection.
I'm pretty lucky finding pc games in my town. I live near a Microcenter and they carry plenty of pc games. Of course, if you can wait a couple of days for shipping, Amazon and Newegg FTW! I've gotten plenty of close-out pc games from Newegg for less than $5 and that's with free shipping!