The only SP games with good gameplay are platformers

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taiwwa said:
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Yeah, portal, half life, skyrim, oblivion, fallout 3,nv, are the games I thought off immediately that aren't platformers.
Of those, portal is a platformer. And it was great.
Lol, location based puzzlers are not platformers. Anyway, your original point is that all other games on that list weren't good?
 

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taiwwa said:
leet_x1337 said:
Right now, I'm playing through Bastion, a strictly single-player hack-and-slash RPG, and loving every minute of it. There isn't a dedicated jump button, not that one would be useful with the isometric perspective, so it isn't a platformer by any means.

Actually, I'll just provide a few more games I happen to love:
-Half-Life 2
-Mass Effect
-Batman: Arkham Asylum
-Borderlands (but only in SP, otherwise I never hit anything due to lag)
-Serious Sam: The First Encounter
-Portal
-Perfect Cherry Blossom
-Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
-Mirror's Edge

Only one of these is a platformer. Only two have multiplayer, and I don't touch either. Also, a lot of people hate multiplayer, for reasons ranging from "nobody plays in my region, so lag" to "everyone online is a dick". However, you've said that it's a fact that multiplayer is, in every case (save for one genre), unquestionably better than SP. Well, I'm questioning it - for your sake, I hope you have a good answer.

Portal, Mirror's Edge, and Arkham Asylum are clearly puzzle platformers.

HL2 has platformer elements.

Look at it this way: do you see people replaying HL2 the same way that they will replay like de_dust in counter strike hundreds of times? No. Because the gun play itself against bots isn't that great. THe story and atmosphere are good, don't get me wrong, but as for an addicting game mechanic they're kind of meh.
Have you ever seen anyone replay Super Mario 64 the way some play De-dust 2? I bet you haven't. There are good single player games outside platformers. Deus Ex would not work as a multiplayer, Tales of Vesperia and that whole genre wouldn't work as multiplayer, but offers a great single player experience. You're obviously trolling here so I wont bother to come up with any compelling reasons why you're wrong since you most likely know you're wrong.
 

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I am not going to argue, although i will be checking in to see how many trolls this little bit of bait manage to grab. Let me grab the proof that you are wrong. Each is a game and my notes on why it is fun.

Oblivion, Skyrim, and Morrowind
First Person Perspective, RPG
Massively fun for any RPG Fan, controls are a bit shoddy though.

Knights of the Old Republic
RPG, Traditional
Based on a tabletop Star Wars RPG, gave birth to an entire era of Star Wars Cannon. Gameplay is good for a RPG, storyline is... well its a BioWare game.

Star Wars:Battlefront
Third Person Shooter
Extremely well balanced, and a blast to play.

Fallout III
Yes I am aware of the Pattern.
First Person Perspective, RPG
Also known as Skyrim V 0.5, was a testing ground for alot of what was used in Skyrim. Still holds up in the gameplay area.

Chrono Trigger
Yes, I am going with all games across all of TIME
JRPG
Good combat system, allows for differing speed between heroes and their opponents. Good characters, nice story, and its a blast to play.

Kingdom Hearts
I know, I play alot of RPGs ok?
JRPG
The entire series is a blast, doesn't have much in the way of player choice, plays off nostalgia without being cheesy(Disney meets Final Fantasy is an alternative title for the series). Some of the best boss battles, and later games in the series do fix pretty much every issue with the game play.

Mount and (Freaking) Blade:Warband
I ignore the other two.
RPG, Horseback Combat Simulator, Feudal Europe Simulator
That's not an exaggeration by the way, its combat system is actually centered on you being on a horse. It also has an descent political system in-universe and it is just a blast to play.

Minecraft
Defies Genre
Shut it. I know it has Multiplayer. However Multiplayer is not the focus of the game.
It is not exactly polished, but you will be hard pressed to find anyone who actually cares about game play flaws(The only genuine complaints are about how its a system hog and the graphical engine could use a overhaul, and I agree on that much).

Portal I and II
Puzzle
No it is not a platformer. While it may use platforming elements it is indeed a puzzle game at its core. It focuses on the direction of momentum via portals rather than navigating a nonlinear course via maneuvering.

Dungeons of Dreadmor
Rougelike
Yeah, you never heard of it. Its a indy game, its a brutal game with permadeath. You stand no chance of victory without both flawless strategy and the Fates deciding to give you the items you need to stand a chance at victory.

Space Pirates and Zombies
Space Shooter
Its a space shooter with a Mech Warrior-styled ship customization system. It is a blast to play, and the game's missions and galaxy are all procedurally generated.

Hacker Evolution
ITS DEFYING GENRE!!!
Its a hacker simulator, its also nearly a puzzle game I suppose.

Bejeweled
Casual Puzzle
Hardcores, shut it now. Look up on the list. See those games? Proof that I am not just a casual gamer, but nobody can honestly say that Bejeweled is a bad game. Its incredibly fun, easy to learn, and impossible to win.

Evochron Mercenary
Spacecraft Simulator
Underrated game, buts its still a blast to play. Utilizes Newtonian Physics to create a space simulator that makes you actually feel like you are flying a ship. Combat is difficult to even get a handle on, but thats mostly due to the fact that you have to adjust to having to use momentum to let you fire in a different way from where you are moving.

Atom Zombie Smasher
STOP DEFYING GENRE ALREADY!!!
Its actually kinda what it says on the tin. Its like a strategy game, only you have five units, randomly selected from seven, that you utilize to hold off zombies while evacuating the civilians during a zombie apocalypse.

Torchlight
Dungeon Crawler
Sorry guys, Diablo II and III have enough multiplayer elements for me to not use them as examples. Torchlight has absolutely no multiplayer, is insanely fun to play, and is just so well designed I can overlook its flaws(Five room fever).

That's all I can think of, at least for the PC and a few console games.

TL;DR
Too bad for you.
 

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'Kay.
I'll be off playing Mass Effect 3 and Persona 4 and possibly some Bayonetta or Vanquish while you all argue then.
 

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Anthraxus said:
Stop your shit posting. First DA2 is better than DAO and now this ?
Did he make that one too?
Hmm, am contemplating he is troll

If he is I have mad respect for him, as on that thread he got a LOT of responses for a troll thread
 

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ResonanceSD said:
Yeah, portal, half life, skyrim, oblivion, fallout 3,nv, are the games I thought off immediately that aren't platformers.
Yeah these. You are almost completely wrong, but there are some awesome SP platformers out there.
 

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taiwwa said:
WOW is so much better for combat, even if Dragon age allows for more story-telling elements. But where dragon age is better than WOW is in the dialogue choices available, which sort of is a puzzle. That's why I play bioware games on easy :)
The combat is WoW is terrible most RPGs from the 90s have better combat.

taiwwa said:
Look at it this way: do you see people replaying HL2 the same way that they will replay like de_dust in counter strike hundreds of times? No. Because the gun play itself against bots isn't that great. THe story and atmosphere are good, don't get me wrong, but as for an addicting game mechanic they're kind of meh.
Have you ever seen a hardcore Paradox grand strategy fan? They will play EU3, Vicky2, HOI forever. If they get tired of playing they mod the game and then play some more. Hell some of them almost completely stop playing other games, I've never know anyone to play Mario and nothing else and even the hardest core Counter Strike fan will typically check out the new cool game.
Also:
leet_x1337 said:
 

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You ever heard of a little Genre called the Point & Click Adventure? It spawned some of the Best Gaming Experiences ever with Games like the Monkey Island Series, Day of the Tentacle The 7th guest and many, many more and I still find myself replaying most of them at least once a year.
Also, Horror Games.Name me one good horror Game where the Multiplayer beats the SP (and dont dare coming at me with Left for Dead or some other Zombie mod)
 

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Oh: I guess "Taiwwa" is trying to get banned as a troll as quickly as possible. It's threads are horrid.
 

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taiwwa said:
leet_x1337 said:
Right now, I'm playing through Bastion, a strictly single-player hack-and-slash RPG, and loving every minute of it. There isn't a dedicated jump button, not that one would be useful with the isometric perspective, so it isn't a platformer by any means.

Actually, I'll just provide a few more games I happen to love:
-Half-Life 2
-Mass Effect
-Batman: Arkham Asylum
-Borderlands (but only in SP, otherwise I never hit anything due to lag)
-Serious Sam: The First Encounter
-Portal
-Perfect Cherry Blossom
-Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
-Mirror's Edge

Only one of these is a platformer. Only two have multiplayer, and I don't touch either. Also, a lot of people hate multiplayer, for reasons ranging from "nobody plays in my region, so lag" to "everyone online is a dick". However, you've said that it's a fact that multiplayer is, in every case (save for one genre), unquestionably better than SP. Well, I'm questioning it - for your sake, I hope you have a good answer.

Portal, Mirror's Edge, and Arkham Asylum are clearly puzzle platformers.

HL2 has platformer elements.

Look at it this way: do you see people replaying HL2 the same way that they will replay like de_dust in counter strike hundreds of times? No. Because the gun play itself against bots isn't that great. THe story and atmosphere are good, don't get me wrong, but as for an addicting game mechanic they're kind of meh.
Ok now I see you are just trolling. Arkham Asylum is a platformer? Half Life as one or two jump sequences so it has platformer elements? Men, you almost got me, I was about to post some thread about how you were posting your opinions as facts, and that it was stupid to do that, and maybe something about personal taste, but now I got it. You exagerated a little there. Next time be more subtle.
 

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Dwarf Fortress, the singleplayer game that is 90% gameplay begs to differ.
So does every rougelike.