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BGH122

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I was listening to the XFM vault [http://www.pilkipedia.co.uk/wiki/index.php?title=Xfm_Shows] of the Ricky Gervais and Steve Merchant Show yesterday and they got onto discussing the perfect murder. So what would you Escapists' perfect murder be?

Here's Steve's: Rent an apartment across from the victim and wait for an icicle to form outside your window. When it does, use it as an arrow and shoot the victim with a bow through their window. The ice arrow will quickly melt upon killing its target and the police won't find a murder weapon.
 

ProfessorLayton

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I'm pretty sure posting murder plans on the internet isn't such a good idea... especially on a gaming forum in a time where the media is trying to ban video games because they claim that it makes kids violent.

And I'm pretty sure the ice would shatter when it hits the glass.
 

BGH122

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ProfessorLayton said:
I'm pretty sure posting murder plans on the internet isn't such a good idea... especially on a gaming forum in a time where the media is trying to ban video games because they claim that it makes kids violent.
Eh, if the mods want to lock it then that's their prerogative!

I can certainly understand why they might want to, but trying to link a discussion that lots of people have had and I specifically heard on a radio station broadcast on a Saturday afternoon to video games is a bit nonsensical.

EDIT: I contacted a moderator and asked for his verdict, guess we'll know soon enough.

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And I'm pretty sure the ice would shatter when it hits the glass.
Yeah Steven's plan doesn't work very well for all sorts of reasons, not least because it requires a lot of ice to form so this'd be impossible in most the world and a good archery ability with a frozen shard of ice.
 

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Yeah I was gonna go with the icicle. You could always stab them with it...although blood splatter? Hmm.

How about a piece of wood as a bunt instrument? Burn the evidence?
 

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Tie the victim to a nuclear missile before it goes off, the body is eradicated instantly!

Collateral damage might occur though. You never know.
 

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SnipErlite said:
How about a piece of wood as a bunt instrument? Burn the evidence?
Ha! Problem here is that you'd have to get into their apartment. With the icicle you can shoot them at range!

Ironic Pirate said:
Tie the victim to a nuclear missile before it goes off, the body is eradicated instantly!

Collateral damage might occur though. You never know.
Haha I like it. If you're gonna kill then why not overkill?
 

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Leave your victim alone for 100 years. It's absolutely failsafe, and no-one could ever suspect anything!
 

Iron Mal

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Leave punji stakes outside his home.

Sure, there's plenty of evidence (so it's not really 'the perfect murder') but I just like the idea of punji stakes.
 

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Tharwen said:
Leave your victim alone for 100 years. It's absolutely failsafe, and no-one could ever suspect anything!
But what if someone cures aging?!

Iron Mal said:
Leave punji stakes outside his home.

Sure, there's plenty of evidence (so it's not really 'the perfect murder') but I just like the idea of punji stakes.
Ew that's some nasty stuff. But according to wikipedia it's usually non-fatal. I guess you could put another punji pit outside his hospital room? Keep an infinite cycle of hospitalisation.
 

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SnipErlite said:
How about a piece of wood as a bunt instrument? Burn the evidence?
Roald Dahl wrote a short story sort of like this:

A woman bludgeons her husband to death with a frozen leg of lamb, then puts it in the oven to cook. She leaves the house, comes home and "discovers" the body, and serves the lamb to the police as they're investigating the scene.
 

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Take a tranquiliser gun, ring the doorbell, assertively step forward and discreetly fire the sedative at them and enter the house (making sure of course that the coast is relatively clear), whereby you proceed to lay many layers of thick plastic cling flim or other substance to stop blood from touching any aspect of the house beneath the body. You lay the body on the film or other covering and either slice the neck or fire a silenced bullet into their forehead to kill them outright, making sure not to spill a single drop of blood anywhere. Afterwards, you remove a hacksaw and proceed to very delicately dismember the body by removing the limbs, still trying to contain the blood on the coverings and using copious amounts of rags to soak up the leakage. You then place the body parts in a black opaque bin-bag, along with the rags and cling film used to soak up all the blood. You then go upstairs to change (assuming the victim is either male or has a husband) into casual clothing to make it look like you are simply taking out the trash. You wrap the bin bag with body parts in several other bin bags to stop any drop of blood leaking out. If you have spilled any blood, you may need to set fire to the house to prevent forensics from discovering any evidence, which could be done fairly easily with a lighter and gas fluid, or even deoderant can aimed at the carpet. A more intelligent way to do this would be to pour fuel over the floor and leave the window open slightly, so at a later date you arrive and discreetly throw a match in the window on the fuel you poured on the floor recently, and do a runner as the fire begins to pick up. You then carry the bin bag of body parts outside in your changed clothes to make it look like you are a family member or friend simply taking out the trash and put it in the boot of your car. You then drive the car to either a cliff in which you drive it off and dive out, causing the car with the bodies to sink to the bottom of the ocean, or to a a junkyard, whereby you have the car crushed. The crushed car could either be left at the junkyard itself or taken to be disposed of some other way. One other solution would be to load the crushed car into a large lorry and have it placed on a cargo ship, whereby the cargo crate is sent overboard into the middle of the ocean halfway along its journey.

...What? Oh, we weren't being serious? Neither was i!
[sup]*Nervous laughter*[/sup]
 

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Did u know that if u get a needle with a teeny tiny bit of air and inject it it kills who ever was injected almost instantly? Fill the needle with any drug that can b injected, include some air, inject into victim, looks like drug usage gone wrong
 

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Gralian said:
Unless one has to register car crushing then that could work. What if you get pull over for speeding?

Kirkby said:
Did u know that if u get a needle with a teeny tiny bit of air and inject it it kills who ever was injected almost instantly? Fill the needle with any drug that can b injected, include some air, inject into victim, looks like drug usage gone wrong
This requires more medical know how than most people give credit for since you have to work out pressure gradients and ensure you're injecting into an artery that leads somewhere important. Gas embolisms do happen, but they're far less efficient than the media gives credit for.
 

Gralian

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BGH122 said:
Gralian said:
Unless one has to register car crushing then that could work. What if you get pull over for speeding?
Ah, but the murderer never would, because he'd be very careful and calm. He wouldn't be working against the clock. There's no reason to get pulled over if you drive just like a normal person - i've driven plenty of times and have never got pulled over once. Those rookie mistakes only happen when it's obvious you have something to hide such as in the scene from Pulp Fiction, where the guy in the back is shot and blood is splattered all over the back of the window. The bin bag full of body parts would be in the boot / trunk of the car, so no-one would have any reason to suspect anything. I appreciate your point about the car crushing, though if the murderer happened to 'know' anyone, i'm sure he could find a workaround. After all, if the people who work in the junkyard happened to be doing him a favour and the police paid a visit, they could simply say

"Car? What car."
 
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Gralian said:
Take a tranquiliser gun, ring the doorbell, assertively step forward and discreetly fire the sedative at them and enter the house (making sure of course that the coast is relatively clear), whereby you proceed to lay many layers of thick plastic cling flim or other substance to stop blood from touching any aspect of the house beneath the body. You lay the body on the film or other covering and either slice the neck or fire a silenced bullet into their forehead to kill them outright, making sure not to spill a single drop of blood anywhere. Afterwards, you remove a hacksaw and proceed to very delicately dismember the body by removing the limbs, still trying to contain the blood on the coverings and using copious amounts of rags to soak up the leakage. You then place the body parts in a black opaque bin-bag, along with the rags and cling film used to soak up all the blood. You then go upstairs to change (assuming the victim is either male or has a husband) into casual clothing to make it look like you are simply taking out the trash. You wrap the bin bag with body parts in several other bin bags to stop any drop of blood leaking out. If you have spilled any blood, you may need to set fire to the house to prevent forensics from discovering any evidence, which could be done fairly easily with a lighter and gas fluid, or even deoderant can aimed at the carpet. A more intelligent way to do this would be to pour fuel over the floor and leave the window open slightly, so at a later date you arrive and discreetly throw a match in the window on the fuel you poured on the floor recently, and do a runner as the fire begins to pick up. You then carry the bin bag of body parts outside in your changed clothes to make it look like you are a family member or friend simply taking out the trash and put it in the boot of your car. You then drive the car to either a cliff in which you drive it off and dive out, causing the car with the bodies to sink to the bottom of the ocean, or to a a junkyard, whereby you have the car crushed. The crushed car could either be left at the junkyard itself or taken to be disposed of some other way. One other solution would be to load the crushed car into a large lorry and have it placed on a cargo ship, whereby the cargo crate is sent overboard into the middle of the ocean halfway along its journey.

...What? Oh, we weren't being serious? Neither was i!
[sup]*Nervous laughter*[/sup]
that's creepily similar to dexter yet different enough that i assume you've never seen it?
 

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Gralian said:
BGH122 said:
Gralian said:
Unless one has to register car crushing then that could work. What if you get pull over for speeding?
Ah, but the murderer never would, because he'd be very careful and calm. He wouldn't be working against the clock. There's no reason to get pulled over if you drive just like a normal person - i've driven plenty of times and have never got pulled over once. Those rookie mistakes only happen when it's obvious you have something to hide such as in the scene from Pulp Fiction, where the guy in the back is shot and blood is splattered all over the back of the window. The bin bag full of body parts would be in the boot / trunk of the car, so no-one would have any reason to suspect anything. I appreciate your point about the car crushing, though if the murderer happened to 'know' anyone, i'm sure he could find a workaround. After all, if the people who work in the junkyard happened to be doing him a favour and the police paid a visit, they could simply say

"Car? What car."
But what if there's a car crash and upon inspecting your car they find it stuffed with body parts?
 

Gralian

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BGH122 said:
Well, if the murderer in question is so useless on the road as to be pulled over for speeding or be involved in a car crash, i doubt he'd have the patience or intelligence to really pull off the 'perfect murder'. ;)

Alternatively, if there is an accidental car crash, it is then a force beyond your control and there is no way to compensate for that. Accidents happen and you can't have a contingency plan for everything. There may be a chance a friend comes to visit while you are busy dismembering the body, too, meaning you would have to deal with him or her as well.