The phrase 'But can it play Crysis' needs updatng.

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Maxtro

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The benchmark is going to be Skyrim.

It's going to look amazing and that is going to be the game that everybody wants to play.

In a few months, "Can my PC run Skyrim" threads will be everywhere. You have been warned.
 

devotedsniper

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viranimus said:
You know that would work.. IF more than 26 people globally played XIV.

Perhaps it was just me, but I found Just Cause 2 to be a bit of a system hog. However, there is a reason why theres no standout title that outshines everyone else in graphics... No matter how quickly you increase horsepower, the true limiting factor is how fast designers are able to learn and utilize the technology.
Ha i'll give you that, but it's getting better, dunno what the old development team was thinking but the new one thinks it might be useful if an mmo has more than just the story missions...you know those little things called quests lol.

My rig never really had an issue with just cause 2, although saying that my rig now refuses to install it, it just freezes up completely, its the only thing which i have that freezes up . i think for testing for now i'll stick to 3dmarks (the dx11 one is very good for stressing a GPU) and the xiv benchmark (these will be the true test of my new rigs build when i build it come january), i won't bother with the old crysis favourite since my 260 (high) and 9500 (medium) could play it very well, so to be honest i don't consider it a very good benchmark anymore since most low to mid range GPU's can handle it on medium now.
 

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My suggestion's probably badly out of date now, but SupCom2 with lots of units on screens (primary at 1920x1080, secondary at 1280x1024) and maxed settings really did not make my graphics card happy with me, inspite of it being optimised for running on ATI cards.

On a vaguely related point, has anyone else noticed how hard certain games get shanked by the opposite make of graphics card? For example, Fallout 3 went with nvidia, and inspite of it in theory being way more powerful than neccessary, my radeon really does not like playing it. As in it has this tendency to either slow down or throw sufficient errors that it crashes the hell out after about half an hour to an hour.
 

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But can it play Splinter Cell: Conviction?

Seriously, that game is so badly optimized it's borderline insulting. I can run Crysis on medium-high at 30-40fps and Crysis 2 at 50fps, yet I'm lucky if I get Conviction to run at 20fps on the lowest possible settings.

Ubisoft: get your shit together.
 

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Thamian said:
My suggestion's probably badly out of date now, but SupCom2 with lots of units on screens (primary at 1920x1080, secondary at 1280x1024) and maxed settings really did not make my graphics card happy with me, inspite of it being optimised for running on ATI cards.

On a vaguely related point, has anyone else noticed how hard certain games get shanked by the opposite make of graphics card? For example, Fallout 3 went with nvidia, and inspite of it in theory being way more powerful than neccessary, my radeon really does not like playing it. As in it has this tendency to either slow down or throw sufficient errors that it crashes the hell out after about half an hour to an hour.
Lol i love that game, never had an issue with unit amounts, but when you play online and the cap is 1000 per person my god, it takes 10 seconds for every 1 second of gameplay to come through lol (lag gets quite chaotic).

And you'll find it's more what tech the developers use for example APB (Original and Reloaded) both use Physx and my friends machine had it changed when he installed Supreme Commander, after APB wouldn't launch because it had been changed, in the end he had to completely reinstall APB to get it running...the stupid thing? ATI cards don't even use physx...
 

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I guess it depends on the GPU. Metro 2033 is often used to benchmark dx11 GPUs.
As a general PC-ass kicker? Shogun 2! That game horrible performance issues on high settings. So it is like Crysis 1 when it came out. The thing with Crysis is, that we basicly outgear the game and at some point, the same thing will happen to Shogun 2.
 

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Trolldor said:
Dude, guys.

Find me a PC that can run 'Hellgate: London" without ever experiencing a serious framerate hit.
Game was optimised like Constipation flows.
Done, my pc (i7 920, GTX480, 12GB RAM) had no trouble with it anywhere.

So far the most punishing game I played is Metro 2033. I have to take the resolution down a notch (to 1440x900) to have decent framerates throughout the game with very high detail, dx11, advanced DoF, 4xMSAA and 16xAS. Metro does seem to be poorly optimised though; there's always a few parts in the maps where absolutely nothing special is happening, yet the frame rate is halved. These aren't large parts, maybe the equivalent of a few square feet. Very annoying when you end up in one of these during a firefight.
 

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HerbertTheHamster said:
Metro 2033. Dragon age 2 looks like shit and runs like shit due to bioware being shit.

Crysis 2 is decent but metro has more advanced effects.
Yeah but my old shitty 4550 can run crysis 2 well. In fact it still surprises me how well they optimized that.
 

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Metro 2033 & Shogun 2 are good choices. I'm running a Phenom II 965 quad core @ 4.0Ghz and a Radeon HD4870 @ 800/1000 and both games give me a run for my money. I can play metro above 60 fps, at DX10 and medium-high settings.

Shogun 2 recently added DX11 support and AA support. I turned on AA and it significantly punched my gpu in the stomach. I haven't done a big battle yet (I'm mostly interested in the other aspects - economy, diplomacy, arts, etc.) but I'm bracing for the worst.
 

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Trolldor said:
Dude, guys.

Find me a PC that can run 'Hellgate: London" without ever experiencing a serious framerate hit.
Game was optimised like Constipation flows.
It wasn't a system hog, it was just buggy. I bought it on release and the frame rate was fine. But some people got about 2fps on much better computers than mine.
 

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stuka06 said:
I guess it depends on the GPU. Metro 2033 is often used to benchmark dx11 GPUs.
As a general PC-ass kicker? Shogun 2! That game horrible performance issues on high settings. So it is like Crysis 1 when it came out. The thing with Crysis is, that we basicly outgear the game and at some point, the same thing will happen to Shogun 2.
I get pretty good performance in shogun with everything ultra and 4X AA with a mid range 6870, the updates actually been pretty well optimized from my experience
 

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ph0b0s123 said:
What do you lot think?
Well, you could always use ArmA 2. Every time there'll be a hardware upgrade, just increase the number of individual AIs in a battlefield to test your PC's mettle to the limit.

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From videos, I would say Battlefield 3 on "Very High" is going to be the next benchmark...
 

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People need to learn that resolution plays a huge part of how your computer will be performing. Im sick of people saying they can run every game on Highest settings when they are infact using something like 800x600 resolution. And 1920x1080 isnt max resolution. Any game with over 1920x1080 resolution will be hard on your computer considering if you are using (Example): 5760x1080 (3screens 1920x1080) then you can expect a huge performance loss

Im pretty sure metro 2033 is the new Crysis

http://www.sweclockers.com/image/diagram/2103?k=95e7d6a5de2ba027ec12c6ef633c6d02
(test on Metro 2033)


Even with 6990 in CF the lowest fps was 10 and average was 64fps
 

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Maxtro said:
The benchmark is going to be Skyrim.

It's going to look amazing and that is going to be the game that everybody wants to play.

In a few months, "Can my PC run Skyrim" threads will be everywhere. You have been warned.
... Skyrim isnt even going to have any dx11 features so how will that be the next pc killer?
 

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So we have a consensus of 'Yes, but can it play Metro 2033 & Shogun 2 fully?'

hermes200 said:
From videos, I would say Battlefield 3 on "Very High" is going to be the next benchmark...
I think the new deus ex might be a contender for the next beching game as the story I read the other day said it will be DX 11 and has had tesselation designed in from the beginning, unlike other games...

"Head of Nixxes, Jurjen Katsman describes a few of the improvements players with DX11 cards can look forward to. ?We do use tessellation; this was one of the first features we started making use of with DX11. We mainly used it to improve character silhouettes, but also used it for some other objects in the world."

Battlefield 3 looks great, but the frostbite engine we saw in BFBC 2, only had minimal DX 11 support. Hopefully they will get around to tessellation support for BF3. Also hopping for multithread rendering, a DX 11 feature which DICE have been pushing ATI and NVIDIA to implement finally in their drivers. This will enable more than one CPU core to be engaged in pushing stuff to the GPU and should help with CPU bottlenecks.

Looking like a great year for system melting, finally.....