The Police are Ignoring me!

[skitzin]

Should gone to the closest Maccas would've been easier to get a hold of them.

OT: Something that I think people seem to forget a lot these days is you honestly have no idea who you are walking with on the street and driving on the road with these days.

Whilst we get the idea of "standing up for yourself" drummed into us from a young age there are times when its best to cut your losses and move on. For example, this type of thing is something you tend not to do during say an armed robbery for obvious reasons.

Pulling over to yell at them was a really, really stupid thing to do considering you do not know who they are or if they are armed or even if they are 'balanced' people in the other car.

Sadly our police here in Australia are less than ideal in some parts (particularly in Perth) and some cases, like this one, that we personally feel are important get over looked for various reasons. Traffic related issues are harder to get much out of anyway, even if this whole thing got to court the people whom you say attacked you would likely not spend a single night in prison and would overall get a slap on the wrist over the matter and perhaps a fine.

As for no response 6 months, it's like the minimal waiting time for many lesser issues around here (Perth) as police work is not a strict linear order of who made what complaint first. You report this issue and then over the next 6 months they would have gotten heaps of very, very violent (think machete attacks in home invasions) complaints made which would push yours back on the priority. Not to mention the police only really call on you if you are required to give further information or be present in court.

 

[Furioso]

Come to Detroit, it's much worse, we can't even get the cops to show up for FUCKING MURDERS. And this happens on a regular basis, the cops just don't bother, or it will take hours to show up, and there are multiple news stories on this daily. The firetrucks don't show up either.

well yeah...It's friggen' Detroit. I can sort of see why the police force in that cesspool might not have the man power it needs.

Yea but the problem is that before it was a joke that Detroit was a city like that, but just recently it has become a horrible reality

 

[Furioso]

Come to Detroit, it's much worse, we can't even get the cops to show up for FUCKING MURDERS. And this happens on a regular basis, the cops just don't bother, or it will take hours to show up, and there are multiple news stories on this daily. The firetrucks don't show up either.

well yeah...It's friggen' Detroit. I can sort of see why the police force in that cesspool might not have the man power it needs.

Yea but the problem is that before it was a joke that Detroit was a city like that, but just recently it has become a horrible reality

Well economic downturns, minorities, drugs, and all the usual nonsense and the like. What can one do?

Not so much that, but more of the incredibly corrupt and incompetent government blowing money out their ass, the mayor says the city will be totally bankrupt by either this week or next week, and every time a solution is offered, such as a city manager, by the state government the city rejects it because they don't want the "white man" telling them what to do

 

[idarkphoenixi]

Dude sorry you had to find out that way but police generally don't give a shit about that stuff. Nobody died and nobody was doing marijuana.

I've had a break in, the window was busted up and they could easily get prints off it. They simply said it wasn't worth their time and that they had more important things to do.

 

[Furioso]

Come to Detroit, it's much worse, we can't even get the cops to show up for FUCKING MURDERS. And this happens on a regular basis, the cops just don't bother, or it will take hours to show up, and there are multiple news stories on this daily. The firetrucks don't show up either.

well yeah...It's friggen' Detroit. I can sort of see why the police force in that cesspool might not have the man power it needs.

Yea but the problem is that before it was a joke that Detroit was a city like that, but just recently it has become a horrible reality

Well economic downturns, minorities, drugs, and all the usual nonsense and the like. What can one do?

Not so much that, but more of the incredibly corrupt and incompetent government blowing money out their ass, the mayor says the city will be totally bankrupt by either this week or next week, and every time a solution is offered, such as a city manager, by the state government the city rejects it because they don't want the "white man" telling them what to do

That would definitely require more elaboration. Please continue.

A full explanation would require pages of writing and research, but I wasn't kidding, they are literally saying they don't want the white man to come in and tell Detroit what to do, meanwhile they all take gargantuan paychecks and much more and ignore all of it. It's not even fair to call it a city anymore, it's mostly ruins, time even did a photo essay thing on that http://www.time.com/time/photogallery/0,29307,1882089,00.html

 

[lacktheknack]

The police do things: "MAKE THEM STOP DOING THINGS!"

The police stop doing things: "MAKE THEM DO SOMETHING!"

And people wonder why I cease to care about what people think of the police.

 

[Ragsnstitches]

And what? You think you're behaviour was any less foolish? If you're an idiot enough to walks up to a man who just stabbed someone in cold blood, gives him a stern talking to, and expect to walk away without being stabbed or at the very least smacked upside the head, you're a fool.

And If that's too preposterous of a analogy, let's look at your own situation. If you're such a brave and courageous individual, why didn't you get out of your vehicle and dispense your own "Justice". Because you valued your safety over teaching a bunch of hoons a lesson.

With that said, I do agree with you that there does appear to be a glaring fault on the police departments end that you should continue to pursue.

Yet again... ffs... stop derailing. But to answer your trolling accusations:
1) I pulled over and asked them "What the f*** are you doing?!"
2) They stopped beside my car (holding up traffic behind us) and immediately got out of their car before I could even react.

I'm starting to think that you people ARE the hoons in question. Why would you support their behaviour? What is wrong with you people?

Victim blaming seems pretty typical on this site. They support their logic with added benefit of hindsight and then feel all superior and intelligent as a result.

Of course you wouldn't have done it if you knew it was going to happen. No one takes a beating for no reason. But these guys were dicks and needed to be told off. I stand behind your decision.

 

[Zeckt]

I'm really sorry you got hurt, I don't mean to blame the victim and I'm very sorry but please try to avoid any sort of driving confrontation even if they are clearly in the wrong. You don't have to be the one to tell them the message when it could very well get you hurt its just not worth it.

I just read an article about a cop punching someone over 30 times in the head over road rage just yesterday. Stories like this happen all the time.

 

[gideonkain]

Stopping on the side of the road to yell at strangers is stupid, nothing can possibly be resolved in that manner. In the future if you meet crazies on the road, decelerate. Don't worry, you still get to call yourself a "man".

Why do you assume this is testosterone fueled? It's the principal of the thing.

The "principal", pssh. --please, it's pridefulness.

"Nobody is gonna 'diss me!"

 

[Stu35]

It's kind of your own fault that three guys strangled you, you did provoke them. If there's a dick in a car that you just overtook, you don't get out to "yell" at them that's insane. What did you think would happen when you yelled at them? There isn't much the police could do about it, if you had the reg of the car then maybe they could have followed it up. The police shouldn't have completely ignored you when you reported it. They committed two crimes dangerous driving and assault so the police should have done something.

2) You're advising never to stand up to a bully.

No, he is saying don't be an idiot and use common sense - three guys who don't care for road safety aren't going to be the most reasonable of people.

2) You're advising never to stand up to a bully.

No, he's really not. He's advising that the scenario you ended up in was your own design and ill-advised.

... Hmmm.

Interesting.


I notice that, whenever rape comes up in discussion on these forums, two camps emerge - the "women should take action to try and mitigate a real threat thats out there" and "STOP BLAMING THE VICTIM YOU HEARTLESS BASTARD".


Now, given the way I've presented those two arguments, I'm sure you can see which camp I'm in.

My initial thoughts were to disagree with the above quoted (and everyone else who has said words to this effect), I've considered that this may make me look like a hypocrite...

Fuck it, yeah, I guess I'm a Hypocrite - There's fuck all wrong with standing up to bullies, and people who say they brought it on themselves should go fuck themselves, the cowards.

Although, in truth, I don't feel MUCH of a hypocrite, because advising women not to walk down dark alleys and wear short skirts with no panties, is not the same as saying that those who assault them shouldn't be punished (which honestly, seems to be what some people are saying here).


So, to that end - yes, you were probably being the proverbial girl walking down the dark alley at 3 am, but that doesn't mean what the cunts did wasn't a crime.

Dude sorry you had to find out that way but police generally don't give a shit about that stuff. Nobody died and nobody was doing marijuana.

I've had a break in, the window was busted up and they could easily get prints off it. They simply said it wasn't worth their time and that they had more important things to do.

To be fair, that CSI 'getting prints' stuff is mostly bullshit - yes it can be done, but it costs a lot of money to succesfully lift prints(and throw in all the additional analysis and adding them to a database nonsense), and unless you live in a country with full biometric enrolment (such a place does not, to my knowledge, exist) they're potentially not going to give you any useful information anyway(Dunno about where you're from, but in England and Wales they can't hold peoples biometric information on file).

Unfortunate, however for some reason any time a government tries to get it's people all fingerprinted up and on a database, theres a massive outcry about human rights and whinging about invasions of privacy.

 

[Furioso]

Come to Detroit, it's much worse, we can't even get the cops to show up for FUCKING MURDERS. And this happens on a regular basis, the cops just don't bother, or it will take hours to show up, and there are multiple news stories on this daily. The firetrucks don't show up either.

well yeah...It's friggen' Detroit. I can sort of see why the police force in that cesspool might not have the man power it needs.

Yea but the problem is that before it was a joke that Detroit was a city like that, but just recently it has become a horrible reality

Well economic downturns, minorities, drugs, and all the usual nonsense and the like. What can one do?

Not so much that, but more of the incredibly corrupt and incompetent government blowing money out their ass, the mayor says the city will be totally bankrupt by either this week or next week, and every time a solution is offered, such as a city manager, by the state government the city rejects it because they don't want the "white man" telling them what to do

That would definitely require more elaboration. Please continue.

A full explanation would require pages of writing and research, but I wasn't kidding, they are literally saying they don't want the white man to come in and tell Detroit what to do, meanwhile they all take gargantuan paychecks and much more and ignore all of it. It's not even fair to call it a city anymore, it's mostly ruins, time even did a photo essay thing on that http://www.time.com/time/photogallery/0,29307,1882089,00.html

This...Has to be the most pathetic thing i've seen this year. And people actually go along with this?

I pray that it's the loud minority behind it, but they both want help, and reject it. They all raise hell on how horrid the situation is, but when anyone tries to help, which in most cases comes from outside Detroit, they continue to reject it in favor of "doing it themselves" and then they re-elect the same people that have caused it to slide into oblivion, and those pictures I showed are mostly only important sites, what you don't see are the literal blocks upon blocks in neighborhoods with burned out and abandoned homes. Oh yea, just remembered, the street lights don't work either (40% of them)

 

[manic_depressive13]

Mostly this...
Except... how is it OP's poor judgement?
The guy was going 20Km/h under the speed limit, he had every right to overtake them...
Law states that if you're being overtaken, you cannot accelerate abruptly or purely because you were being overtaken at the time... IT'S A FUCKING QUESTION TO GET YOUR LICENCE!?!

And if I was nearly killed because of some dick who couldn't drive I'd want to pick up the nearest heavy object and beat the shit out of the guy...

OT: Yeah, cops are lazy... I mean, in Queensland the pizza has a faster response rate... THAT'S how great they are...
Or at least how great the pizza store is anyway... now I'm hungry... -.-

I said "slightly poor judgement" because there was not really anything to be gained by stopping and screaming at the guys. I don't think he was wrong to try and overtake. Unfortunately it turned out the guys in the other car were cunts in every way possible.

The police do things: "MAKE THEM STOP DOING THINGS!"

The police stop doing things: "MAKE THEM DO SOMETHING!"

And people wonder why I cease to care about what people think of the police.

So "stop using excessive force" and "take appropriate action when someone engages in risky and illegal behaviour" is somehow contadictory and unreasonable? That's quite petty. I don't see why I would want people who respond to constructive criticism by throwing a hissy fit in positions of authority.

 

[Rottweiler]

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The car stopped. You had to be there. They stopped and started and laughed like idiots. They were enjoying holding me up, this wasn't a 'new' driver. They tried to run me off the road.

I don't know how much clearer I can make it? I wasn't up their ass!

I suppose I need a bit more clarity, then. From what you wrote, they were driving slowly and more or less acting like yobbos- got that. What you have not made clear is why you couldn't have pulled off the road and used your cell phone to report them, let them drive away for several minutes, then gone along after they had preceded you by a few minutes. *Before* trying to pass them.

I admit, I am stuck on where you tried to pass them when they were driving unsafely. No one here supports what they did, or their assault on you, far from it. However, I think a lot of us feel your actions- which you seem to underplay a great deal- were (from an unbiased perspective) as bad or worse from a danger to others standpoint.

One of my overall points is that if *I* get that from your description of events, what did the *Police* get from your description?

You seem to be focused on the End Result: at the end of the whole incident one of them choked you. Viewed separately from everything else, that was an Assault and no one disagrees that it should be reported and prosecuted.

My problem is that you're glossing over your own actions in the matter and focusing entirely on why the Police haven't acted or kept you in the loop.

As to the Police issue- I don't know why they haven't contacted you. I recommend just keeping at them.

 

[Jewrean]

Just a heads up Different laws in the US i believe its illegal to drive a certain amount below the speed limit or some such. No such law in the UK, the victim can be contested just because OP posted doesn't mean he was the victim it's only here say.

Either way im just trying to make the point that the guy wasn't a saint in this situation and should not be crying to the police because he came off worse in the incident.

You still didn't read above. The other driver stopped in the middle of the road entirely. The speed zone was 60km/h btw residential, I went to overtake (because there didn't SEEM to be anyone on the other side) and as I did he MATCHED my speed whether I was speeding up or slowing down.

Why are you hell bent on trolling me?