The popularity of Twilight and the disturbing implications herein
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Probably because Vampires in the Elder Scrolls series have decent explanation and reasoning behind them.Noamuth post=18.71967.743280 said:
And they don't sparkle in sunlight...
WHY?
As far as I'm aware the walking dead is the main idea of vampires in folklore, I'm sure the ideas of running water and entering houses came later.Xaryn Mar post=18.71967.743275 said:
Coming from a rare *guy* who likes the series, i'll give it this: As a vampire story, it's unique. Meyer didn't fall into the trap of trying to use all the vampire lore that, say, the vampire-the masquerade games use (yes, those games were awesome, but you know of some books, movies and games that failed at it), but just some simple things *everyone* knows about vampires(like being immortal). Then she made up her own stuff. It's not Hellsing, and it definitely shouldn't be as much of a fad as it is (HP was worthy of that, not this) but I think if you can make it past the first book, it gets quite interesting.
I was saying the author wasn't thinking, that's why I bolded "Thinking".Noamuth post=18.71967.743346 said:
Sorry, I left for a while so I'm responding to this late. I didn't mean you in particular when I said that. In the same way guys get mad at girls for wanting a guy as perfect as Edward Cullen, girls have to deal with guys wanting perfect girls. I was thinking about that, somebody made a post about it, so I responded. Honestly, it wasn't personal. I know that it's far from all guys who are like that.ButtonedDownParadox post=18.71967.743100 said:
I would always have assumed Dracula (we are talking Bram Stoker right?). I would have assumed that people who liked this kind of thing were simply uninitiated. I assure you it is not self-evident that Twilight is more enjoyable.Nibbles post=18.71967.743166 said:I read Twilight last year. This year I read Dracula. Oh gee, which do you think I enjoyed more?
Woah, that strikes a chord. My friends were all crazy about the Wheel of Time for awhile. I would hate to admit how many books I read before I gouged my eyes out with a hot iron.Jaythulhu post=18.71967.743370 said:
Honestly, I'll just say this I think some girls are just born to like vampires, By that I mean I have several friends who are insane and love Ann Rice's books and also that other series were the girl is some detective who speaks to the dead. I am not quite sure why vampires are even so popular in any format. Though from what I have read in the thread the reason why so many would like it is, One the vampire is a rebel in society and the tough guy who is a rebel and your father would hate, Two the girl is popular and gets the main male interest and gets to date a hot guy.ButtonedDownParadox post=18.71967.742942 said:
I mean it's the same reason why some guys love Conan books and comic books where the guy is super strong and gets a ton of hot women,But instead it's the girl who everyone likes and she gets the coolest guy in school to like her.I mean women and men have both fallen for the stupid fantasy/sci-fi romance heroic books forever. I mean look at star wars it was just basically a story of a geeky guy who becomes strong and then gets the girl(almost). Also look at how many women like Han Solo as the rugged cool guy as well from the films or Angel from Buffy series.
P.S Everyone knows the best man that has ever lived was Nietzsche,But trying to find someone like Nietzsche to come for you is sadly not possible,Also Angels > Vampires.
Sorry for the aside, but I found Nietzsche a startling disappointment. I don't get the big deal with the guy. Maybe I missed something important?Chiasm post=18.71967.743379 said:
A guy on Explosm did a negative review of Twilight. It was well-written and quite witty at points. For this, he was given everything from bad feedback to death threats. http://forums.explosm.net/showthread.php?t=21130
Also, Noamuth, can you give me the name of that webcomic?
Also, Noamuth, can you give me the name of that webcomic?
It's not a big deal to most people, He is a either love him or hate him kind of guy with most hating him. For one he was the first to examine society from the outside of it. He also is the first mentor for the common person with problems. More so in how he thought it was the experience you have in life that is the reason for living. So if you are born blind or deaf you are blessed because you can see a world noone else gets to in there life rather then many who think you should be pitied. He is a big advocate of knowledge and the spreading of knowledge as well. I mean Nietzsche to me all comes down to "Amor Fati."Rooster Cogburn post=18.71967.743386 said:
So I think you will find most Nietzsche fans as the people who value knowledge and spreading knowledge as the ultimate goal,Also it is a common mindset that you shouldn't curse your hardships in life but be glad you got to experience what ever pains and joys fate has given you.
http://headtripcomics.comicgenesis.com/Copter400 post=18.71967.743389 said:
It's awesome
Also - I avoided reading it at first, because not only is it a vampire story (and as far as I can tell we're oversaturated with THAT, or at least the people I know are all obsessed with it), it's a vampire LOVE story.
But I did read it, and I didn't find it that awful. I mean YES, it was stupid in some points (shiny vampires) and Bella was an absolute 'tard, but I still enjoyed it for some reason... and I don't know WHY.
Actually, that's very helpful. I think I missed the forest for all the trees when I read Ecce Homo and others.Chiasm post=18.71967.743395 said:
"Don't insult Edward. We're gonna get married one day, and he loves me!!!!"Copter400 post=18.71967.743389 said:
We seriously need to do something before literature permanently becomes like this.
God I hate that series, not the worst I've ever read but for fucks sake it's not "the best book evarrrr" or whatever the hell else these deluded little retards typed, Christ I preferred it when books were nerdy things to be avoided, then at least what you read was written by someone both committed and capable, not saying Stephanie Meyer is terrible at what she does, just that she really needs to stop lowering the bar. God I can see the future now, nothing but books equally lacking in any realistic merit and spy novels.
The funny truth is that all the girls who read that crap probably read nothing else, I'm guessing because they don't understand/like anything without the absolute degradation of literature presented in the Twilight series.
Also I think some think this book is something other then a fad, I mean remember Harry Potter that was a simple and stupid book and tons love it. Every generation loves the fantasy easy to read fluff books as it were it will soon pass I am sure. I remember still when people thought Stephen King was a serious writer too.
I would suggest The Gay Science,Thus spoke Zarathustra as some of his main works. Ecce Homo was I think his rationalizing of his own life to himself. Also Nietzsche's own growing insanity makes it hard to clearly make a good read of his works,As some have said he does not even count as a philosopher I have heard in classes due to his style.Rooster Cogburn post=18.71967.743404 said: