The PS3 mouse - Splitfish Frag V2 first impressions

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Wolfram23

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Hey there Escapists. A few weeks back I heard about this incredible thing - a PS3 controller with a mouse and a wii style nunchuck. Needless to say as someone who enjoys FPS, I was very excited about this discovery. So excited in fact, I bought one. And it was a GOOD CHOICE.
EDIT: Also, if you could leave a comment, this is my first try at any sort of review... feedback is welcome.

So, let's get to it. I'll start with the bad. Really, just nit-picky issues. Firstly, the controller is wired which can be a minor annoyance, but it is quite long (10ft) so not a big issue there. Second issue is that while it is plug and play, for every game you need to fiddle with the sensitivity to get it to that perfect mouse feel. However, this is fairly easily accomplised as there's a dial on the nunchuk. With too high sensitivity it can be jittery, too low and you don't turn fast enough, but when you get the sweet spot it's very respectable. Third annoyance is button placement. This is fairly minor as it's mostly something that I'll just need to learn/get used to but on the nunchuck the d-pad is positioned so that I find it easiest to push with the middle of my thumb (on the joint). On the mouse, initially I found the triangle/square/X/circle buttons to be too far back so it was a bit awkward to push but after a little more game time I found it to be fairly natural. The last issue is on the mouse's left/right buttons. I believe they have the same analog sensitivity as a standard PS3 controller (so you could feather a gas/brake peddle) and in a FPS this means you need to fully depress them to fire. I found that initially I didn't push hard enough and missed a chance at a kill, but again just something to get used to. After a little while it wasn't much of an issue, but still it would be nice if they were standard "clicky" mouse buttons.

Now, the good. Obviously using a mouse to aim is a big advantage over a thumb stick. The mouse is optical so it's quite accurate and can be used on pretty much any surface. They included a big stiff mouse pad so you can place it on your legs or on the couch and it works very well. In MW2, with the settings I have it on I could probably do a 360 or a bit more if I were to use the full width of the mouse pad so it's really good. Also, the nunchuck has 6-axis motion and it allows you to link any one button to the vertical so in MW2 you could make it your knife, reloading or jumping... whatever. And the controller allows you to adjust the motion sensitivity as well as it's neutral position. Two more features that are quite nice are the Frag button and auto-fire. The Frag button dramatically reduces mouse sensitivity which can be useful for sniping. This button is located above L1 and you can easily hit both with one finger. The auto-fire feature I've not used, but it's basically a "turbo" feature so you could use a semi-auto gun (FAL or a pistol) and just hold the trigger for auto fire.

My conclusion is this. If you can afford it and like shooters, get it. Now. I've only been able to put a handful of hours on it this weekend, and it takes some getting used to since I haven't played with a mouse set up in a year or more plus it's a whole new button configuration to learn. However, already I'm getting a lot better and there's been several instances that with a regular controller, I wouldn't have come out on top as they're a lot slower to aim. Also, Splitfish is releasing their Pro version which is wireless so that might be good to look into. You can check out their website at http://splitfish.com

And here's a nice img:

You can see the middle mouse buttons - the long one is R3 and the small one on top is Start. On the nunchuk you have from top to bottom the shoulders are Frag, L1, L2. The thumbstick clicks down for L3. And on the inside of the nunchuck you can see the sensitivity dial.
 
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Isn't using a mouse in a console FPS the equivelent of cheating? It's like using steroids in sports. It kind of unbalances the playing field a bit.
 

Craftybonds

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it looks like a decent design, but it sort of defeats the entire purpose of owning a console to me.
 

reg42

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There's one of these!? Awesome! I don't really need it, considering all my FPS playing is on the PC, but I'm glad the option is out there.
 

LegendaryMan

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FUCK ME THAT LOOKS FUCKING AWESOME...

Seriously that is the most cool thing ever released for the PS3...
 

Wolfram23

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Daystar Clarion said:
Isn't using a mouse in a console FPS the equivelent of cheating? It's like using steroids in sports. It kind of unbalances the playing field a bit.
Cheating? Really? It's not an aimbot. Takes skill to be accurate. It's an advantage, yes. Cheating? No. It's available to everyone and won't shrink your balls. More like buying an awesome 1 piece graphite hockey stick when everyone's using wood.
 

Danny Ocean

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Craftybonds said:
it looks like a decent design, but it sort of defeats the entire purpose of owning a console to me.
What? You own a console so that you can use a gamepad rather than a mouse?

Man, you've got money to burn.
 

KdS_22

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Wow I have never even heard of that before now! When I get my PS3 fixed, I'm definitely going to save up and get one. And plus it just looks cool!
 

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You PS3 guys are fairly luckier than 360 fellers. If you get caught with a turbo-modded controller on Microsoft's service, you're on a one-way ticket to Banville, on the island of Ban'd.

I must say, anything with a turbo feature, in my opinion, should be smashed into tiny little pieces. It's straight-up cheating in my mind.
 

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Daystar Clarion said:
Isn't using a mouse in a console FPS the equivelent of cheating? It's like using steroids in sports. It kind of unbalances the playing field a bit.
No more than someone using an arcade stick as opposed to a normal controller in a fighting game. Or a player using a big, high def TV which makes it easier to spot enemies. All in all, though, the most important thing is the skill of the player, not the equipment they're using.
 
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Wolfram01 said:
Daystar Clarion said:
Isn't using a mouse in a console FPS the equivelent of cheating? It's like using steroids in sports. It kind of unbalances the playing field a bit.
Cheating? Really? It's not an aimbot. Takes skill to be accurate. It's an advantage, yes. Cheating? No. It's available to everyone and won't shrink your balls. More like buying an awesome 1 piece graphite hockey stick when everyone's using wood.
You're just saying that because you have one. :)

I for one, will stick to the unwritten code of gaming conduct.
Rule number 146/739. S.4
Thou shall not gaineth advanatage over other players through the use of a modified contoller, covered in subsection 846, joypads for consoles and a mouse for PCs respectfully.
Breaking said rules will result in the permnanent title of Lord Toolage of Douchebaggery the VII.
 

Wolfram23

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Danny Ocean said:
Craftybonds said:
it looks like a decent design, but it sort of defeats the entire purpose of owning a console to me.
What? You own a console so that you can use a gamepad rather than a mouse?

Man, you've got money to burn.
I wouldn't use this for, say, God of War. It's really for a FPS in which case I can't see why you'd prefer thumbsticks for aiming.
 

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Danny Ocean said:
Craftybonds said:
it looks like a decent design, but it sort of defeats the entire purpose of owning a console to me.
What? You own a console so that you can use a gamepad rather than a mouse?

Man, you've got money to burn.
I do aswell.
I have a wii, a 360 and a PS3, the only reason I play them over my PC is because I like playing with a controller.
 

Wolfram23

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Daystar Clarion said:
You're just saying that because you have one. :)

I for one, will stick to the unwritten code of gaming conduct.
Rule number 146/739. S.4
Thou shall not gaineth advanatage over other players through the use of a modified contoller, covered in subsection 846, joypads for consoles and a mouse for PCs respectfully.
Breaking said rules will result in the permnanent title of Lord Toolage of Douchebaggery the VII.
I think you're just saying that because you don't have one. But let me ask you, is a force feedback wheel and pedals cheating in a racing game? Is an arcade stick controller cheating in fighting games?

If so, I can only think your view is one of either jealousy that you don't own one or fear that you'll get pwned. Frankly if you're good with a regular controller it won't matter all that much. The biggest advantage is the ability to quickly and accurately rotate a big distance - say you run around a corner right past an enemy, the guy who can turn quickest will probably get the kill. So mouse is going to be better then. But if you're at range with an assault or sniper rifle, neither controller has a big advantage.

You may as well call cheater about people who use grenade launchers in MW2. Or thermal scopes. Or heartbeat sensors. It's all about gaining a little advantage over your opponents. If it wasn't we wouldn't use attachements.

IMO the only valid gripe is about the turbo function, which is not automatically enabled. You need to program it in to a specific button. And even then, it's my opinion a turbo function is only truely a cheating advantage in a fighting type game.
 

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NuclearPenguin said:
Danny Ocean said:
Craftybonds said:
it looks like a decent design, but it sort of defeats the entire purpose of owning a console to me.
What? You own a console so that you can use a gamepad rather than a mouse?

Man, you've got money to burn.
I do aswell.
I have a wii, a 360 and a PS3, the only reason I play them over my PC is because I like playing with a controller.
Yeah, it's not like the PC as the most versatile platform has the ability to play just like a console by plugging in a controller and a tv screen or something...

Seriously, people, get out from under your rocks, hardware compatibility is nearly universal these days.
 

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Asehujiko said:
NuclearPenguin said:
Danny Ocean said:
Craftybonds said:
it looks like a decent design, but it sort of defeats the entire purpose of owning a console to me.
What? You own a console so that you can use a gamepad rather than a mouse?

Man, you've got money to burn.
I do aswell.
I have a wii, a 360 and a PS3, the only reason I play them over my PC is because I like playing with a controller.
Yeah, it's not like the PC as the most versatile platform has the ability to play just like a console by plugging in a controller and a tv screen or something...

Seriously, people, get out from under your rocks, hardware compatibility is nearly universal these days.
Yes but it requires time and a corded 360 controller
 
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Wolfram01 said:
Daystar Clarion said:
You're just saying that because you have one. :)

I for one, will stick to the unwritten code of gaming conduct.
Rule number 146/739. S.4
Thou shall not gaineth advanatage over other players through the use of a modified contoller, covered in subsection 846, joypads for consoles and a mouse for PCs respectfully.
Breaking said rules will result in the permnanent title of Lord Toolage of Douchebaggery the VII.
I think you're just saying that because you don't have one. But let me ask you, is a force feedback wheel and pedals cheating in a racing game? Is an arcade stick controller cheating in fighting games?

If so, I can only think your view is one of either jealousy that you don't own one or fear that you'll get pwned. Frankly if you're good with a regular controller it won't matter all that much. The biggest advantage is the ability to quickly and accurately rotate a big distance - say you run around a corner right past an enemy, the guy who can turn quickest will probably get the kill. So mouse is going to be better then. But if you're at range with an assault or sniper rifle, neither controller has a big advantage.

You may as well call cheater about people who use grenade launchers in MW2. Or thermal scopes. Or heartbeat sensors. It's all about gaining a little advantage over your opponents. If it wasn't we wouldn't use attachements.

IMO the only valid gripe is about the turbo function, which is not automatically enabled. You need to program it in to a specific button. And even then, it's my opinion a turbo function is only truely a cheating advantage in a fighting type game.
I was clearly having a larf (see the smiley in post?), why would I be jealous? I don't consider stuff built into the game to be cheating (unless it's an exploit of course), joy sticks are very similiar to joypads and I've had experience with using both a joypad and steering wheel in racing games, with no apparent improvement with either. A mouse, on the other hand, will destroy a joypad in an FPS almost every time,I know that and I'm not even a PC gamer.
 

Craftybonds

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Danny Ocean said:
Craftybonds said:
it looks like a decent design, but it sort of defeats the entire purpose of owning a console to me.
What? You own a console so that you can use a gamepad rather than a mouse?

Man, you've got money to burn.
Yeah, i do.

And the reason why i don't hook mice up to any of them is so i can justify having what is basically 4 computers hooked up to the same monitor.