The PTC's "Campaign Against Violent Videogames"
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I do not understand this group, most kids under 15 don't have jobs so the only way they get will get games saving what they've been given or having them bought as gifts. By the time they are 15 there's not much you can stop them seeing anyway.
Pretty much parents against parenting.
Pretty much parents against parenting.
Maybe we should try educating them in why their logic is just wrong. Hopefully, they'll see that video games are not only for children. Also, if a teenager kills someone and they played video games, it's not because they played video games that they killed someone, it's because there was already something wrong.
Most of those "family-friendly-Christian-oh-aren't-we-so-smart" twats like Sarah Palin.lacktheknack said:
For some reason I get the feeling that the PTC is the WBC of the Media. They are vastly misinformed and believe that what they are doing is right.
You do realise that the PTC has long campaigned against television and film, right? They've spent a lot of time pressuring sponsors to drop support of programming and so on. The PTC doesn't want any of that stuff going on.aquaman839 said:
Don't get me wrong, I don't like what they do. But they've taken on far lighter stuff than Rambo.
"Family-friendly show promoting responsible themes and traditional values".
That's what they want all shows to be.
By "traditional values", I assume they mean exclusively Biblical values: Gays are bad, don't drink, don't trim your beard, etc.
That's what they want all shows to be.
By "traditional values", I assume they mean exclusively Biblical values: Gays are bad, don't drink, don't trim your beard, etc.
I'm technically a "family-friendly-Christian-oh-aren't-we-so-smart" twat, as you probably define it, but you don't see me listening to this group of trolls.King Toasty said:
The question stands, are they really that ignorant of what goes on in the games industry, or do they choose to purposely ignore it in order to further their agenda? Let's face it here people, there's three things that these kind of groups want.
1. Supporters
2. Money
3. Attention
Making outlandish, completely off the wall and 90% of the time completely wrong statements such as these gets them #1 and #3. It's exactly this kind of publicity that they want. Even if we were to speak out against them, they need only to fall back on the excuse "Oh look who's talking. Gamers talking about how safe and fun video games are. They can totally be trusted to come up with an unbiased opinion."
So, you know what I propose?
Ignore them, up until the court case in the supreme court. Then, bring out all of these posts, and accuse the other side of "Making slanderous statements that hurt the industry as a whole, and created a rift between developer and consumer"
Their own strategy, used against them.
I mean, so far, Jack Thompson has told us to go to hell, this group has called us thugs and bullies, has accused us of willingly selling violent and sexually graphic content to minors, all of which we have evidence of the contrary. I think we'd have a decent case.
1. Supporters
2. Money
3. Attention
Making outlandish, completely off the wall and 90% of the time completely wrong statements such as these gets them #1 and #3. It's exactly this kind of publicity that they want. Even if we were to speak out against them, they need only to fall back on the excuse "Oh look who's talking. Gamers talking about how safe and fun video games are. They can totally be trusted to come up with an unbiased opinion."
So, you know what I propose?
Ignore them, up until the court case in the supreme court. Then, bring out all of these posts, and accuse the other side of "Making slanderous statements that hurt the industry as a whole, and created a rift between developer and consumer"
Their own strategy, used against them.
I mean, so far, Jack Thompson has told us to go to hell, this group has called us thugs and bullies, has accused us of willingly selling violent and sexually graphic content to minors, all of which we have evidence of the contrary. I think we'd have a decent case.
Alright, stop. You're making yourself look bad. The Bible allows drinking, not drunkenness. "Don't trim your beard" was a traditional Jewish belief that doesn't need to be followed now.King Toasty said:
you said basically everything i needed to:Saltyk said:
i didnt finish the whole article and where do i get a hold of some AO games?
I hate how organizations like this invalidate their entire cause. You know what, I support the idea that children should not be playing graphically violent games. When I have kids, I will definitely wait until they are mature enough to handle things before letting them experience them. Otherwise is just lazy and irresponsible parenting. And you know, some websites out there do a great job of saying, "Hey, video games are awesome, but you want to watch what your kids play! Here are some reviews and resources to help you do well with that!" Those sites are awesome. Unfortunately, sites like this one give sites like those ones a bad name and completely invalidate the perfectly reasonable ideas they've buried in ignorance and stupidity. Sad, really.
Wow...all the PTC does is blame other people when they can't control their kids.
I'm sure it was stated, but to call us despicable because we like to control our medium is garbage. There are more graphic contents in books and in movies, but they don't complain about that or call people who enjoy those mediums the most vile people to walk on this earth because they would be insulting themselves.
And I've read stories of people who WON'T sell M rated games to minors without their parents in the stores and those parents flip a shit when they have to go in, but are the same ones complaining when we let their kids buy the games because they were too lazy to walk 100 feet from the car to the check out counter.
If they spent as much time as they do blaming everyone else for their problems instead on keeping an eye on their kids and monitoring their content, they wouldn't have to even worry about this kind of thing. My parents monitored me and limited my gaming time and games when I was younger, and it taught me self control. You can't start gaming off by picking up a controller and playing as a barely clothed women killing police officers while she fucks their dead corpses. You have to start small, like with a nice Mario game. Then you move from Mario to Zelda, adding a sword, but keeping a light tone about it. Then you head to Metroid, a darker game for teens. Then you move slowly up until GTA is so mindless and retarded that even talking about trying it in real life sounds like a joke that isn't funny.
Parents who don't monitor their kids video games not only harm the kids, but also the game industry and our image. And it allows people to slander a whole group of people because they don't like our medium of entertainment and want what they want like a customer who can't remember something she was told an hour ago
I'm sure it was stated, but to call us despicable because we like to control our medium is garbage. There are more graphic contents in books and in movies, but they don't complain about that or call people who enjoy those mediums the most vile people to walk on this earth because they would be insulting themselves.
And I've read stories of people who WON'T sell M rated games to minors without their parents in the stores and those parents flip a shit when they have to go in, but are the same ones complaining when we let their kids buy the games because they were too lazy to walk 100 feet from the car to the check out counter.
If they spent as much time as they do blaming everyone else for their problems instead on keeping an eye on their kids and monitoring their content, they wouldn't have to even worry about this kind of thing. My parents monitored me and limited my gaming time and games when I was younger, and it taught me self control. You can't start gaming off by picking up a controller and playing as a barely clothed women killing police officers while she fucks their dead corpses. You have to start small, like with a nice Mario game. Then you move from Mario to Zelda, adding a sword, but keeping a light tone about it. Then you head to Metroid, a darker game for teens. Then you move slowly up until GTA is so mindless and retarded that even talking about trying it in real life sounds like a joke that isn't funny.
Parents who don't monitor their kids video games not only harm the kids, but also the game industry and our image. And it allows people to slander a whole group of people because they don't like our medium of entertainment and want what they want like a customer who can't remember something she was told an hour ago
While I'm perfectly willing to agree that these guys are firmly with the jackbooted thugs of the anti-fun brigade. I am pleased to see that they are at least encouraging parents to pay attention to the ESRB rating system and get involved with their kids games.
You know, I was thinking of this earlier today. As a young child, I had to write something for a class. I remember that it was about a power outage. The first thing I wrote wasMechaBlue said:
Ok, maybe that isn't exactly what it said, but it is the spirit of what it said. The point is, that as a young child, I knew that there were some things you didn't say in public. But I also didn't lie about my dad's likely reaction to such a situation. Basically, I knew the difference between right and wrong at a very early age. Does the PTC think that others do not?
In all honesty, that the PTC said this doesn't surprise me at all. I've read some of their TV reviews. You should too, if only for a good laugh.CheckD3 said:
A while back I saw a newspaper clipping that mentioned that the PTC had done a survey of television shows and found that religious figures, like priests, were often depicted negatively in shows. Heaven forbid that religious authority figures should be shown as human. I didn't even understand why it was in the newspaper. Especially since I knew who the PTC was, and had an idea of what negative might have meant for the PTC.