If any of you didn't know, only 1 of the puppies actually died. 5/6 of them were rescued by an old Dutch lady who lived across the river and saw her throwing them in.
Thank the powers that be, but that's still one dead puppy and that is one too many.Guttural Engagement said:If any of you didn't know, only 1 of the puppies actually died. 5/6 of them were rescued by an old Dutch lady who lived across the river and saw her throwing them in.
Maybe there's subliminal messaging in their videos that causes this hypnotic trance of arrongence and stupidity.InnerRebellion said:I haven't the foggiest. I will admit a few of Eminem's songs are better than I expected, but no rapper is worthy of worship. Nor is any musician for that matter...I guess kids are just thick?Blatherscythe said:and why do kids look up to those types of people?
Yep I even have the story in my post up thread.Guttural Engagement said:If any of you didn't know, only 1 of the puppies actually died. 5/6 of them were rescued by an old Dutch lady who lived across the river and saw her throwing them in.
Without insects humans would not exist. Bet you still reach for the fly spray and swat wasps.Stormz said:I disagree. Some people deserve to die, but hey, that's my opinion.InfernoJesus said:Human lives are worth infinitely more than dog lives. Human's have the potential to impact the world in ways that dogs just can't.
It upsets me that people would put the lives of virtually useless animals before humans.
She's on the list.
Without animals humans wouldn't be able to exist either.
I didn't even think of that. I guess you're right.manic_depressive13 said:What a load of nonsense. Your ridiculous claim that human lives have an intrinsic value where animal lives don't is based on a moral viewpoint. If you would like to pretend there's no moral basis to this you wouldn't care whether either a human nor an animal died, provided it didn't affect you.InfernoJesus said:I value everything based on how it will/may impact my life. If an animal being killed does not have the potential to impact me whatsoever, said incident has no value to me.
I determine the usefulness of a life based on its potential to impact society as a whole. Using this metric, you will likely come to the same conclusion I have. In fact, in this case, this girl's amusement is likely more useful than the dog's life, therefor I condone this act of "cruelty".
Backing up an argument with morals obsoletes the argument, as morals are illogical ideals, implanted into children at birth.
Also, your argument is based on circular reasoning. You were asked why human lives are more valuable than animal lives. You claimed that they are more valuable because they have the potential to impact society. However, to consider human society worth impacting, you must have already accepted that human lives are worthwhile.
So you just negated your own argument.
A very good point, to which I respond that no one can determine exactly how someone will impact the world. It all depends on whether or not you feel that the average person has a greater chance of impacting society positively or negatively.infinity_turtles said:The question is, is it better to have a puppy not impact the world, or have someone who drowns puppies make an impact on the world? Okay, that was phrased pretty poorly, but the point is not all impact is good, so if you're going to use that as a measurement, something that causes damage should be worth less than something that doesn't change anything.InfernoJesus said:Human lives are worth infinitely more than dog lives. Human's have the potential to impact the world in ways that dogs just can't.
It upsets me that people would put the lives of virtually useless animals before humans.
For a totally exaggerated example, would you put Hitler's life above that of a kitten? Sure, invoking Godwin's law is a bit heavy handed, but where there's one exception there's more.
Yeah, I'll stick with sentience, advancement and scientific progress. We were wild once and it sucked ass that is why we are people now.ethaninja said:Because we are animals too. Mammels actually but still. And today, I'm much prefering "other animals" over humans anyway, due to the fact that I'm very envious of them (especially the wild ones) for reasons I won't say on here.InfernoJesus said:Why do you value the lives of other animals equally with humans?WhoaItsBrett said:InfernoJesus said:Human lives are worth infinitely more than dog lives. Human's have the potential to impact the world in ways that dogs just can't.
It upsets me that people would put the lives of virtually useless animals before humans.
All lives are equal.
Humans and animals.
Also, a lot of the ways we "impact" the world are usually bad.
Dogs are no longer one of those animals, and possibly never were. Besides, no 50 other animals are worth less than a human.Stormz said:I disagree. Some people deserve to die, but hey, that's my opinion.InfernoJesus said:Human lives are worth infinitely more than dog lives. Human's have the potential to impact the world in ways that dogs just can't.
It upsets me that people would put the lives of virtually useless animals before humans.
She's on the list.
Without animals humans wouldn't be able to exist either.