the REAL way to make a silent kill

[spartan231490]

Very few kills are 'silent'. But somehow I don't see CoD forcing people to wait 30 seconds whilst their character writhes on the floor in agony, their movements getting smaller and less effective as they bleed out...

Also, if you can hold someone's mouth for a couple of seconds, apparently you can cut the nerves in the spinal column with a knife between vertebrae. Just as silent, as the recently stabbed can no longer move or breathe.
(Disclaimer one: Read it in a few books, I'm not some kind of knife-wielding maniac)
(Disclaimer two: Said books were fictional. This may be bullshit, though it sounds like it would work)

It would work perfectly, but the problem is that it's very hard to get the knife exactly between two vertebra by sight, you would really have to know what you're looking for.

 

[Comando96]

...if your fast you can breat their spine... by twisting their neck to a 120 Degree angle, which would do the same as the knife to the back of the skull... but without the need for a knife.

 

[spartan231490]

between vertebra is just as silent, and easier. And the throat isn't a silent kill, but it's a quiet kill. You would be hard-pressed to hear the gurgling and struggling from very far off, but a scream can travel quite a distance. So no, slitting the throat isn't silent, but it's close enough for more situations. Kidney is an interesting techniche too. It causes so much pain that the throat closes and you can't scream right away. so It's silent for a few seconds.

Trying to sever the spinal cord is HARD. It's pretty solid and unless you're lucky or the subject is incapacitated chances are the blade will go off to the side.

You're right about the kidneys but a better point is the solar plexus.[/quote]

didn't even think about the solar plexus, because it's in the front, but it would sever the diaphragm as well, making it very difficult to scream. and I never said it was easy to sever a spinal chord, I know I can't find the space between 2 vertebra by sight, it would probably take me a few minutes by feel, but if you find the right spot it would do the trick.

 

[Jegsimmons]

piano wire plus throat....it isnt as noisey as you think,

or how about a big ass rambo knife and a straight up decapitation?

or poison, or chloroform, or a sleeper hold with your elbow while you cut up their lungs and heart?

the possibilities are endless!!! oh and crossbow.

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

To be honest when I read the title I thought this thread would be about silent farts that are quite smelly. Anyway nice to know but I don't think I will ever need this.

 

[Blackpapa]

...if your fast you can breat their spine... by twisting their neck to a 120 Degree angle, which would do the same as the knife to the back of the skull... but without the need for a knife.

Have you actually practiced the technique you're describing or are you pulling it out of your arse?

If the former who was your instructor.

 

[Jodah]

My dad was a commando, and I seem to remember him mentioning clapping a hand over the victim's mouth and just stabbing him in the throat as much as possible.

He may have been telling me tall tales, however...
I was only about ten at the time...

This and snapping their neck. The second option requires a great deal of strength though.

 

[Impluse_101]

My dad was a commando, and I seem to remember him mentioning clapping a hand over the victim's mouth and just stabbing him in the throat as much as possible.

He may have been telling me tall tales, however...
I was only about ten at the time...

Did he regularly do that when you were 10?

 

[spartan231490]

My dad was a commando, and I seem to remember him mentioning clapping a hand over the victim's mouth and just stabbing him in the throat as much as possible.

He may have been telling me tall tales, however...
I was only about ten at the time...

Remember, silent is relative. If his nearest buddy is 50 meters away through the jungle, he's prolly not gonna hear thrashing and gurgling. If he's 10 meters away, he probably will.

 

[SckizoBoy]

... Random thought: I've always wondered at the practicality of using a stiletto to kill someone by stabbing them through the eye.

OT: Yeah, that works, though one wonders just how loud a manual neck-break is. (Actually, never mind... think that would make a fair bit of noise and catching the falling body post-kill would be rather difficult...)

 

[Woodsey]

Or, y'know, you could just forgive them for kicking the ball on to your front garden.

 

[Lt_Bromhead]

My dad was a commando, and I seem to remember him mentioning clapping a hand over the victim's mouth and just stabbing him in the throat as much as possible.

He may have been telling me tall tales, however...
I was only about ten at the time...

Did he regularly do that when you were 10?

Yeah, but only because I asked...

My dad was a commando, and I seem to remember him mentioning clapping a hand over the victim's mouth and just stabbing him in the throat as much as possible.

He may have been telling me tall tales, however...
I was only about ten at the time...

Remember, silent is relative. If his nearest buddy is 50 meters away through the jungle, he's prolly not gonna hear thrashing and gurgling. If he's 10 meters away, he probably will.

This is true.
And I would imagine a knife being repeatedly stabbed into someone's neck would cause a lot of noise too....

 

[Aethren]

Sleeper hold is the most quiet kill, provided you have the strength to pull it off. The best way to use a knife though is to actually stab it through the side of the neck until it comes out the other side, then pull it towards the face, effectively splitting the throat open. It's much more efficient than a simple slice across the throat.

 

[spartan231490]

piano wire plus throat....it isnt as noisey as you think,

or how about a big ass rambo knife and a straight up decapitation?

or poison, or chloroform, or a sleeper hold with your elbow while you cut up their lungs and heart?

the possibilities are endless!!! oh and crossbow.

Decapitation is a lot harder than you think, even between the vertebra, i don't think you could do it with a knife. It's hard enough with a full-blown sword.

and the crossbow is virtually identical to the knife in the wound it creates, so you would still have to hit the right place, although the greater force involved opens up skull-penetration possibilities. And very few poisons are fast enough or painless enough to cause a silent kill, although some snake venoms would probably do the trick if you managed a painless enough injection method.

 

[Jakub324]

My dad was in the Paras and he said the same thing. Video games can be so misleading, but at least they aren't "teaching kids to kill", right?

 

[Blackpapa]

... Random thought: I've always wondered at the practicality of using a stiletto to kill someone by stabbing them through the eye.

OT: Yeah, that works, though one wonders just how loud a manual neck-break is. (Actually, never mind... think that would make a fair bit of noise and catching the falling body post-kill would be rather difficult...)

The bone at the base of the eye socket is thin enough for a dagger-like combat knife (eg. Fairbairn-Sykes) to penetrate. It's hard to attack the eyes however as you can expect your opponent to recoil. Protecting the eyes/front of face is a natural first instinct and I see no way it could be a practical technique unless your intention is to tape and release it. In which case you're one sick puppy.

 

[spartan231490]

sorry, i have no idea why all my posts are running together like that. stupid shitty internet.

Sleeper hold is the most quiet kill, provided you have the strength to pull it off. The best way to use a knife though is to actually stab it through the side of the neck until it comes out the other side, then pull it towards the face, effectively splitting the throat open. It's much more efficient than a simple slice across the throat.

Sleeper hold requires almost no strength, it's all about leverage and skill. and the biggest problem with the sleeper hold is that it doesn't close off the windpipe, so they are still free to scream, and it requires both arms(at least the way my martial art teaches it). If you could pull it off with one arm while the other held his mouth It might work.

 

[Lt_Bromhead]

My dad was a commando, and I seem to remember him mentioning clapping a hand over the victim's mouth and just stabbing him in the throat as much as possible.

He may have been telling me tall tales, however...
I was only about ten at the time...

You must have had the BEST bedtime stories.

Hahah, his favourite stories were always ones involving army intel cock-ups, funnily enough. So they were almost alway amusing.

Remind me to tell you some of his Ireland stories sometime...