does this mean i didnt win?? :/archont said:What gun exactly?MacLeRoy said:ive only four words for you: alone, gun with silencer. Did i win?
Edit: Matter of fact what ammo?
Edit2: And which brand of suppressor?
Pretty sure that's the same artery, just a different access point. You are talking about the one on top of the shoulder near where the shoulder meets the neck right?archont said:True but landing a hit there is nigh-impossible. The area is obscured by loose clothing and hands are naturally down, not up.spartan231490 said:I don't know, too many variables. Probably less than a minute, but it would take longer than you think, especially if you only cut one jugular. What you really want to aim for is the carotid, since that pumps blood to the brain, and cutting it drops blood pressure in the brain which can cause a person to pass out. They also bleed out faster. The Artery under the arm is actually supposed to be a faster bleed-out than even a carotid cut(something rediculous like 18 seconds is what I heard), it's one of the most popular methods for butchering pigs because it's the fastest.
Another technique is going for the subclavian artery/vein in the shoulder. Supposedly 5 seconds or less until the opponent is unconscious, 10 until death. Depends on whether the cut is smooth or jagged and if the artery is transected partially or wholly though.
Silenced gunfire is still very loud, a great deal louder than a guy thrashing a gurgling, although probably still quieter than a full-blown scream.MacLeRoy said:ive only four words for you: alone, gun with silencer. Did i win?
I've been thinking, and a good stab/twist to the heart wouldn't be a bad idea either. It should result in the same blood pressure drop as the carotid cut and it's easier. It's also a little easier to miss too, so I can't really decide which is your best bet. On the other hand, it's gonna be pretty hard to get the leverage you need to shove a blade through the throat like that, although you're pretty likely to take out at least one carotid on the stab anyway, so it's not that crucially important. Still, I can't imagine it would be easy, that is a lot of cutting surface and you don't have the advantage of momentum.scar_47 said:From behind with a knife your best bet would be to simultaneously cover their mout while stabbing the in the neck about halfway back and push the knife forward your hitting the carotid and jugular as well as severing their wind pipe they become unconscious almost immediately due to the drop in blood pressure and will bleed out in 10-15 seconds even if the remained conscious they can't screan become you've cut their wind pipe and have their mouth covered, then you lower them to the ground, snapping someones neck is iffy depending on hieght and positioning it can be trick to get the leverage you need to actually break the neck. Most
I couldn't bring myself to watch that video.archont said:It takes a while.Nieroshai said:Muffling the victim until he bleeds out (which does not take long with the jugular cut, I'm certain)will result in, if not utterly silent, at least a kill you won't be able to hear if there's moderate background noise. Also, the windpipe below the larynx would be severed, so all you'd hear would be gasping and gurgling. Once again, not quiet as a mouse but you're not gonna hear it if you aren't in the same room.
See video:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=176_1187215494
Graphic content warning, obviously.
not the jugular. the Carotid arteries jugular is a vein there is less blood pressure in a vein than an artery it's the difference of a slow steady bleeding or spurting blood until the heart stops. the Jugular is closer to the surface while the arteries are deeper and harder to hit.Tax_Document said:Huh? Slicing the jugular is one of the most efficient types of killing available, just clamp your hand over their mouth to muffle the gurglin' and off you pop to another slaughter.
Ain't war hell?Warlord211 said:I couldn't bring myself to watch that video.archont said:It takes a while.Nieroshai said:Muffling the victim until he bleeds out (which does not take long with the jugular cut, I'm certain)will result in, if not utterly silent, at least a kill you won't be able to hear if there's moderate background noise. Also, the windpipe below the larynx would be severed, so all you'd hear would be gasping and gurgling. Once again, not quiet as a mouse but you're not gonna hear it if you aren't in the same room.
See video:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=176_1187215494
Graphic content warning, obviously.
you don't need much force you just have to do it right.the problem with that is that it takes about up to 10 seconds until the person is out cold during that time a lot can happen (what exactly depends on the person obviously) and when you are standing up you can't control the others legs which will be all over the place...choking someone out is not like in the movies where they sneak up behind someone and poof the go limp....just put your index fingers to the left and right of your throat (about the height of your adams apple if you are a man) on your jugular (you will know when you are in the right place) and start to slowly apply pressure and see how it feels and ask yourself if you won't kick everything you can reach while someone does it to youAethren said:Sleeper hold is the most quiet kill, provided you have the strength to pull it off. The best way to use a knife though is to actually stab it through the side of the neck until it comes out the other side, then pull it towards the face, effectively splitting the throat open. It's much more efficient than a simple slice across the throat.
Not teaching them very well at least.Jakub324 said:My dad was in the Paras and he said the same thing. Video games can be so misleading, but at least they aren't "teaching kids to kill", right?
No no, the ball only got them a beating. This time they actually went and scratched the car!Woodsey said:Or, y'know, you could just forgive them for kicking the ball on to your front garden.