The reasons i perfer Runescape to wow
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I stumbled upon the website through a forum link or something like that earlier this week.Username___ said:
I found that their newest update is creating a much more fun, "more like it used to be" pking system.
I've played both runescape (free version) for a decent period of time and WoW for about 2 years.
Runescape I felt just didn't immerse you in anything really - fighting was click enemy and watch you bash away at things, occassionally cast a spell etc. Quests were kinda lame I thought - mainly get said item and bring it back. I don't like how you can do ALL professions in the game though - do you know a blacksmith/tanner/cook/lumberjack?
WoW you are fully involved in the combat - movement, different types of attack, lots of spells and working as a group can pay off for you. Quests do get repitive but there wasn't much they could do that was completely different - I mean if you have to make like 10000 quests for a game would you want to make EVERY single one feel different?
And I have to say I HATE it when people assume that you have to spend all day playing WoW - it is not designed solely for the serious gamers, you can do what YOU want. If someone wants to hang out or do something you don't have to say "sorry I'm playing WoW I can't".
Besides if you died in runescape you lost EVERYTHING you had on you (I think, it's been a while) so you had to spend ages getting everything you lost back - THAT is not for casual gamers whatsoever. As opposed to WoW's 5 mins run back to your body and a slight repair bill.
So hours spent getting equipment again or 5mins run and a some in game money lost? - I know what I'd pick...
Also graphics can't really be taken into account as a comparison since runescape is a browser game while WoW is an actual installed program. Also graphics don't change how fun a game is so doesn't matter.
Community is the same as well - if there's people on a game there will be good people and there will be jackasses, you can't control that.
Runescape I felt just didn't immerse you in anything really - fighting was click enemy and watch you bash away at things, occassionally cast a spell etc. Quests were kinda lame I thought - mainly get said item and bring it back. I don't like how you can do ALL professions in the game though - do you know a blacksmith/tanner/cook/lumberjack?
WoW you are fully involved in the combat - movement, different types of attack, lots of spells and working as a group can pay off for you. Quests do get repitive but there wasn't much they could do that was completely different - I mean if you have to make like 10000 quests for a game would you want to make EVERY single one feel different?
And I have to say I HATE it when people assume that you have to spend all day playing WoW - it is not designed solely for the serious gamers, you can do what YOU want. If someone wants to hang out or do something you don't have to say "sorry I'm playing WoW I can't".
Besides if you died in runescape you lost EVERYTHING you had on you (I think, it's been a while) so you had to spend ages getting everything you lost back - THAT is not for casual gamers whatsoever. As opposed to WoW's 5 mins run back to your body and a slight repair bill.
So hours spent getting equipment again or 5mins run and a some in game money lost? - I know what I'd pick...
Also graphics can't really be taken into account as a comparison since runescape is a browser game while WoW is an actual installed program. Also graphics don't change how fun a game is so doesn't matter.
Community is the same as well - if there's people on a game there will be good people and there will be jackasses, you can't control that.
Yeah, as you become a higher level, and do more quests it becomes much easier to travel about, and with decent magic you can get to most places too.Wargamer said:
11 is dead(or on life-support) apparently.Trivun said:
The servers are so much quieter than a good while back, and a couple of friends who used to play it said they gave up because the only way for them to progress was by buying gold in game.
People who claim Runescape is just a 'crappier version of WoW' clearly have no experience of it.
Having played WoW, WAR and Runescape, I have come to some very solid conclusions.
Runescape is a skill-driven game. WoW / WAR are hack-n-slash driven games. WoW is the suckier of the lot of them.
There is nothing about WoW that would make me want it over WAR (a game with a far superior universe - Warcraft is just a rip-off of Warhammer, after all). Runescape is a class apart from the others, in that you can quite happily build characters around doing little if any fighting. Sure, you won't be completing many of the quests, but generally the game demands of its players a wide range of skills to access everything.
Runescape used to suffer horribly from Gold-Farmers. I for one applauded Jagex for their radical (and very unpopular) moves to stop the Gold Trade. Yes, we lost PvP, but better that than lose Runescape altogether.
Runescape and WoW / WAR play quite differently, and as such which you prefer is in part linked to what you want to get out of the game. I rather enjoy Runescape's self-aware humour, just as I love the grimdark world of WAR. However, WoW is stuck in the middle of these two for me, and why would I want a piss-poor knockoff of either when I can get the real deal?
Having played WoW, WAR and Runescape, I have come to some very solid conclusions.
Runescape is a skill-driven game. WoW / WAR are hack-n-slash driven games. WoW is the suckier of the lot of them.
There is nothing about WoW that would make me want it over WAR (a game with a far superior universe - Warcraft is just a rip-off of Warhammer, after all). Runescape is a class apart from the others, in that you can quite happily build characters around doing little if any fighting. Sure, you won't be completing many of the quests, but generally the game demands of its players a wide range of skills to access everything.
Runescape used to suffer horribly from Gold-Farmers. I for one applauded Jagex for their radical (and very unpopular) moves to stop the Gold Trade. Yes, we lost PvP, but better that than lose Runescape altogether.
Runescape and WoW / WAR play quite differently, and as such which you prefer is in part linked to what you want to get out of the game. I rather enjoy Runescape's self-aware humour, just as I love the grimdark world of WAR. However, WoW is stuck in the middle of these two for me, and why would I want a piss-poor knockoff of either when I can get the real deal?
geeze, what about those of us who are MMO players who Don't play Wow? there are hundreds out there, yet people only ever talk about the supposedly "high-end" games, like WoW, or the supposedly "Low-End" games like Runescape. There are hundreds upon hundreds of Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Games out there, many of them are vastly different from one another. Some of these games, some people would consider beats the shit out of other supposedly "High End" games.
....sorry, that ends my little spotlight rant.
Okay, my online experience started out with Runescape as well, and since everyone in all my classes in school in 5th grade were playing it, we all played together. However, once I got to 8th grade, and got my first taste of other MMOs, I knew I could never go back. The community in Runescape was really pretty awful from my personal experience. That is also the only game I've played ever, where I personally knew people who managed to get their account hacked.
But I suppose my real reason for my dislike of runescape, would be the lack of a party system. I don't know if they have one now, but back when I played(3D, and last days of runescape classic) there was no party system at all. I did enjoy PKKing(player killer killing) with some friends, though. Also cooking... Flint and Tinder!
I guess, once I saw some of the other MMOs out there... especially a lot of the free ones, I couldn't really understand a reason someone would stay in runescape other than not knowing about what else is out there.
....sorry, that ends my little spotlight rant.
Okay, my online experience started out with Runescape as well, and since everyone in all my classes in school in 5th grade were playing it, we all played together. However, once I got to 8th grade, and got my first taste of other MMOs, I knew I could never go back. The community in Runescape was really pretty awful from my personal experience. That is also the only game I've played ever, where I personally knew people who managed to get their account hacked.
But I suppose my real reason for my dislike of runescape, would be the lack of a party system. I don't know if they have one now, but back when I played(3D, and last days of runescape classic) there was no party system at all. I did enjoy PKKing(player killer killing) with some friends, though. Also cooking... Flint and Tinder!
I guess, once I saw some of the other MMOs out there... especially a lot of the free ones, I couldn't really understand a reason someone would stay in runescape other than not knowing about what else is out there.
The reason that I personally find rs boring as hell is because it is all grind all the time. I mean, wow is grind, but the grind it has is broken up into sections of questing, pvping, playing the auction house, raiding, instances, or playing an alt. Runescape grinding is usually pick one or two things and do them for hours straight with no variation what so ever. Level from 1 to 40 only killing chickens, completely possible, are you serious? This brings up the question, I can fight harder monsters, but why would I want to. If I can lvl just as fast killing chickens or whatever, why would I want to fight orcs or skeletons?
Plus leveling in wow is actually faster than it is in runescape, it might still take a fair bit of time but you can log on for an hour here or there and actually accomplish some quests and leave feeling you've done something in the game today. Runescape youll have gained 10k xp and be halfway to attack lvl 52 or something, that doesn't feel like I accomplished anything personally.
Plus leveling in wow is actually faster than it is in runescape, it might still take a fair bit of time but you can log on for an hour here or there and actually accomplish some quests and leave feeling you've done something in the game today. Runescape youll have gained 10k xp and be halfway to attack lvl 52 or something, that doesn't feel like I accomplished anything personally.
IMOWargamer said:
classic still looks better.
before they were trying to be WOW... and before i was 12.
in fact thats probably part or the reason...
1 was good at the time, and maybe still is, when i went back to check it out (my pc broke) i couldn't access it, no explanation why but i was forced onto "rs2"...
i enjoyed it at first but the community sucked, the grind was unrewarding and lengthy, there was no chat or anything for the sucky community (and people got banned for trying to change this with SS,) and the only thing that amused me was the pking which they ultimately removed.
and yeah, they tried to make amends, but once you try something else, going back just seems like crawling after you've learned how to walk. you might do it if you break a leg, but you never do it given a choice.
I used to play Runescape when I was a freshman, and at the time I loved it. From hours of watching my friends play WoW over their shoulders, and hours spent playing RS as a 13-year-old, I can say that I still think that the former is somehow more creative. Maybe I'm mistaken, but all the quests and NPCs in WoW were comparatively boring. In Runescape, however, there were many different thresholds of danger and "unknowns" scattered around the map to surprise those who hadn't totally memorized the game.
However, at my current age I'd probably play WoW if I ever had to get into another MMO (ha!). The main reason behind this is that my favorite part of Runescape, the player-controlled economy, has fallen to socialism. Last I heard, Jagex set "fair trade" prices for everything, and everyone had to adhere to that. I know that the economy in WoW is also player-controlled, but for some reason I don't like the idea of the Auction House. It just seems more rewarding having to sift through walls of text from advertising players to find the deal you want and then walking away rich as a result.
However, at my current age I'd probably play WoW if I ever had to get into another MMO (ha!). The main reason behind this is that my favorite part of Runescape, the player-controlled economy, has fallen to socialism. Last I heard, Jagex set "fair trade" prices for everything, and everyone had to adhere to that. I know that the economy in WoW is also player-controlled, but for some reason I don't like the idea of the Auction House. It just seems more rewarding having to sift through walls of text from advertising players to find the deal you want and then walking away rich as a result.
Yeah, selling an item personally is probably more rewarding but it also can take a long time if you're selling a good item, like hours and hours, and since the variations of items isn't as complex in runescape it would be a lot faster to sell that super item that everyone wants then in wow, when there's so many different stats to consider and so on. The thing is, in wow you can merchant, which I think is just as rewarding as personally selling an item. You buy up all the cloth and resell for profit, that's just a fun part of the player controlled economy that I love.Whistler777 said:
Actually, when I think of it i'd rather play RS than WoW for several reasons (I got addicted to Wow a while back, just got meself offof it.bradley348 said:How is it possible to like RS more than WoW?
your arguement that the quests have no stories behind them doesnt hold any water either, havent u ever seen the wall of texts in wow which i am always desperately pressing skip on? sure, if ur into that kind of stuff fine, but i skip it, but still, the quests have storylines behind them (not that i know anyone who cares even lol)
RS graphics = incredibly bad. game looks incredibly stupid
and you dont need time in WoW, Blizzard gives you 2x XP if you are logged out a lot (or even a tiny bit, just you dont get as much as someone who barely plays)
Runescape's leveling system is so boring, most people dont even challenge themselves, because you dont have to, its all on a hp basis, you kill an enemy with 1 hp, no matter how low level it is, you get the equivalent of 1 hp of xp, but those level 20 something sheep with 100 hp come to mind..... (100 hp is 400 xp, and a level 20 something can get raped pretty quickly by someone who actually needs to spend ages clicking "attack" and awaiting the conclusion in runescape.
The levels of depth are also in question in Runescape, i put this to you, can you get mounts in RS? do you get to spend time upgrading your gear? (RS has very few dif types of armor you can wear, you just pick one, which is usually quite cheap, unless its that dragon crap) do you have PvP in more places than just some pointless wilderness in which like 3 people may be in at any time who are actually interesting in fighting you.
finally: who says u have to be skilled to play WoW? that arguement is incredibly stupid, the combat is almost as simple as RS at low levels, except occasionally you press a button to use a bloody pointless ability that barely speeds the fight up (raptor strike anyone? 'course i never leveled a hunter up that far)
TL
1. Price- Pay £9/month in the UK along with game+exapansions = 30+....compared to £3.50/month for RS this is a big thing.
2. Less depressing things in RS - in Wow, this applies to commited raiders or whatever- you constantly goto the same raids everyweek for a couple of months and do the same boss only to get your gear then have nothing todo afterwards- whereas in RS getting a whip for the first time for example in RS got you going and gave you so much happiness. Also you dont have to earn money only to use it on one nights raiding whereas in Runescape your weapons+armour are all you need (most of the time).
3. Quests have like 50x more likeability to them. I hate people who say "oh wow has those quests" well NO it doesnt and if it does there are not many of them (not as many as RS has). Ive got more than a few characters and 99% of quests relate to kill X of X/ collect X of X/take X to X etc.
4. Personal Exp. - Before I played wow, I played RS. Things were great in RS, the quests were puzzling, the people were nice and if you found one doing the same quest as you (for example the monkey madness quest) you could both hand each other tips.
5. The Graphics thing- pile of donkey [something]. If you only enjoy what the game looks like, you would NOT be playing an MMO. MMO's dont have the best Graaphics in the world. Period.
6. Downtime + Patches n' stuff- Wow is down practically every week, and connection problems with a couple of people can ruin a night of fun with a friend/ raiding team. The constantly changing abilities of character just makes things so tedious and hateful at times- in Runescape the longest period I ever went offline for was around 5 minutes, and they were putting a new area into the map (I think).
7. The Economy in RS is soo much more fun to use than in Wow, well maybe a little less fun than before, but yes very fun. In WoW the "im in the middle of nowhere and need to geto X city in 5 mins and have no hearthstone" doesnt help whereas in RS there is never an icredibly important time for getting items- you work at your own pace.
8. Community- Getting caught up in a community is less fun than slaying monsters alone, while I was "in the zone" on WoW, I often met and befriended many a guild member- but it was annoying the fact that I considered them friends and that I wanted to chat with them everyday- it evertually gets depressing.
9. Group stuffs(in raids)- Hard to manage, and even if you get someone capable of the job it is tedious waiting and helping all in your raid group.
10. Mounts- I DONT NEED A F***ING MOUNT I CAN MAKE MY OWN RINGS THAT CAN TELEPORT ME AROUND THE WORLD!!! basically, the mount thing [insert "urinates" synonym] me off.
11. Don't let me hear ANYONE saying about free worlds having no armour/weapons- there is a massive selection of weapons in RS in members (if you talk about free and comparing to Wow you are stupid) and and just because you dont get a new one every week doesnt mean there isnt plenty of weapons.
12. PvP- the PvP in RS was messed up a while back, but now it has improved vastly and I for one DESPISE PvP in WoW (Even though my main has a full set of PvP gear).
13. Individuality- Someone said above that it is stupid you can have all skills and I disagree completely, if you are going to be a Hero, why can't you do everything. Just because someone likes having a class advantage over another else doesnt mean that being able to be all "combat types" is bad. When I played RS, I enjoyed missions where it demanded some magical powers to kill enemies, because it makes the game more challenging. If you have ever played WoW, you know all youhave todo is Hundreds upon hundreds of quests to get 80 whereas for doing a harder quest you dont get (7000-12000) exp per quest, you get a large amount.
--Oh and if you try and come back at me saying but what about killing 1000s of things in Runescape to level up! I will call you stupid, because they are both the same thing, only Runescape involves quests that have "MEANING". This means that Runescape get fun out of quests, whereas Wow quests are a front for grinding the enemies just the same as RS.
14. Skill Capes- Similar to achievements in Wow but more public someone sees someone with a cape in RS its usually "Wooooow youre amazing! Whereas in wow you have to Tell people you have it and it seems you are gloating.
Main Point: Runescape is cheaper for more fun. £40 for a year of runescape compared to nearly £100 more (138-assuming each expansion of wow is £10) for a year of Wow.
Main Point: "Good" Graphics does not make WoW the best thign since sliced bread.
Main Point: Quests in Runescape ARE a big pro for the game.
Conclusion: Wow has a few minor things that are better than in RS but overall RS whoops Wow bad.
/rant end
I hope you do not try to toss my points aside, as they are VERY fair, and I have played both games extensively and know alot about them and what is good/bad about them.
I obviously did take RS's side here, and after thinking about it, I might just see what RS is like these days...
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IIiii get the feeling you havent invested enough time in WoW to realize that there is actually a storyline and most of what you've said is relative to taste and the amount of time played on each, so tell me exactly why this topic exists when theres really nothing to discuss?
I'm not preferencial to either game personally. Both have serious flaws that make aspects unlikeable.
I'm not preferencial to either game personally. Both have serious flaws that make aspects unlikeable.
No i mean tactics. Like when you have to move around a room in a certain pattern, or do somthing special every x amount of seconds. What I'm talking about is that wow-bosses are more than just standing and hitting... 4 horsemen is an example. You have to tank them in each corner of the room, and change targets every few seconds, in order not to die.Phenakist said:
first of all, you don't like the fact that when caught up in a game you can befriend other people who are playing the game because it depresses you?Mackinator said:
well that does explain why you might like RS... i'll admit i haven't played WOW, but short of removing the friends system, i don't think that RS could make the community harder to access. and then there is the question of why would you want to access it so maybe they realised this and decide to let two birds live by not throwing a stone. despite the fact that community, i'm fairly sure, is the ONLY attraction of an MMORPG.
secondly, since when did price affect how good a game is? or even if you "prefer" one or the other. (i will steadfastly refuse to go into the convincing yourself that you like smoking dilemma solely because i cannot find a decent link)
if realistically you cannot afford WOW, or just prefer to spend your money on other things, it isn't RS you prefer, its the other things you could spend your money.
and the quests were dull and uninteresting. -oh no what will happen to the gnome king??- i don't know just give me the damn rewards already.
anyone saying that the quests in RS are better then in WOW so that makes it a good game clearly has never played a storyline MMO. and whilst neither have I, i've heard their out there. as said before, the only people that play RS are the people that cannot afford a better game, and cannot afford a better pc, and cannot be bothered to research other games...
Many says that Runescape requires no skill. Then whats the point? If you don't need skill, then it's no challange, and i can't have fun doing trivial things. A game should challange skill and intelligence. You don't need to play WoW 24/7 to get good at it. If you think so, then it's most likely because you are bad at playing computer, and then RS would be a great choice, cause you only need to right click on a monster to kill it.