The Return of the Sexism-CommuniCast: Sexism in real life.

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Darken12

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Evil Smurf said:
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Calibanbutcher said:
How about May 8?
Sounds good, I don't have anything on that day.
I'm Evil Smurf and I meow this message. What does that time mean for me? Can we have it in the morning Australian time?
You and I are actually roughly 12 hours apart, so 22:30 GMT is 19:30 for me and might be 7:30 for you (depends on where exactly you live, in Australia), so the currently scheduled timeslot seems to be okay (though if you live in Western Australia, it might be too early for you and we might need to upslot it a couple of hours).
 

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Darken12 said:
Evil Smurf said:
Darken12 said:
Calibanbutcher said:
How about May 8?
Sounds good, I don't have anything on that day.
I'm Evil Smurf and I meow this message. What does that time mean for me? Can we have it in the morning Australian time?
You and I are actually roughly 12 hours apart, so 22:30 GMT is 19:30 for me and might be 7:30 for you (depends on where exactly you live, in Australia), so the currently scheduled timeslot seems to be okay (though if you live in Western Australia, it might be too early for you and we might need to upslot it a couple of hours).
Victoria, so no issue.
 

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Evil Smurf said:
Darken12 said:
Evil Smurf said:
Darken12 said:
Calibanbutcher said:
How about May 8?
Sounds good, I don't have anything on that day.
I'm Evil Smurf and I meow this message. What does that time mean for me? Can we have it in the morning Australian time?
You and I are actually roughly 12 hours apart, so 22:30 GMT is 19:30 for me and might be 7:30 for you (depends on where exactly you live, in Australia), so the currently scheduled timeslot seems to be okay (though if you live in Western Australia, it might be too early for you and we might need to upslot it a couple of hours).
Victoria, so no issue.
Why do you think I went ahead and scheduled it at that time?
Because I love you and want you to spend time with me
Because last time you could make it at that time...
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Froggy Slayer said:
Just a quick question; how does one get selected for this insane and magical Communi-cast?
If you want just any Communicast (as in, not this particular topic), then just join the usergroup [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/groups/view/CommuniCast-FailCast] and keep an eye on the chat/news updates. Or, heck, just ask what the next one is going to be or propose a topic.

OT: I liked the last one (I can't remember but I might not have commented in the thread), so I'm interested in the new one. Would you have a list of topics/questions beforehand or would you go with a vague plan only?
Well, the point of this thread is to generate a list of topics up for discussion on the Cast.
If you want to contribute, please feel free to do so.
Though I would prefer a list of topics / questions to a vague plan.
 

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Evil Smurf said:
Victoria, so no issue.
So 8:30 am, then. That sounds peachy, time-wise.

Also, Calibanbutcher, I'd really like to tackle this one in the cast:

oreso said:
(This is maybe a bit trolly): "I'm a strong independent woman! So now you'd better protect me from any bad portrayal of my gender or offensive humour!"
It'd be nice to tackle common misconceptions of feminism and dispel some common myths (particularly regarding the whole "feminists just want to censor/content-control/force people to do X" thing), so it would be quite nice to foster some education and understanding in that regard.
 

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Darken12 said:
Evil Smurf said:
Victoria, so no issue.
So 8:30 am, then. That sounds peachy, time-wise.

Also, Calibanbutcher, I'd really like to tackle this one in the cast:

oreso said:
(This is maybe a bit trolly): "I'm a strong independent woman! So now you'd better protect me from any bad portrayal of my gender or offensive humour!"
It'd be nice to tackle common misconceptions of feminism and dispel some common myths (particularly regarding the whole "feminists just want to censor/content-control/force people to do X" thing), so it would be quite nice to foster some education and understanding in that regard.
OK, I will put that one on the list then.

How does

"Common misconceptions about feminists, the feminist ideology and feminist goals" sound to you?
If we add this to the list, I would want to add an MRA version of this for balance sake, seeing as MRAs are often misrepresented as well.
 

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dunam said:
I think it would be more powerful if it sticked to a single question/theme. Going off on tangents will happen anyways. Would make the discussion and possibly the preperation more focused and I think, interesting.

Something like: "Do career women have a disadvantage at the workplace and should we do something about it?" or "Is modern feminism a positive movement for our society?"
I do see your point of course, but as you say, we WILL get sidetracked during the cast, no matter where we start from, so I would very much like to be able to at least influence and steer the discussion a bit.
Also, I do believe that giving you, the participants, a list of topics which will be up for discussion beforehand, thus enabling you to prepare yourselves, will make for a more fruitful and more fluent debate.

I do like both your suggestions though.

But again, I think we should maybe try to get them into a form that does not focus exclusively on one gender:
So maybe:

"Does a person's sex influence their career chances", maybe with an added note about the wage-gap and gender-disparity in leading positions, as well as a discussion about implementing gender-specific-quotas that need to be met by the industry at large.


And I would frame the "is modern femisism a positive force" under the mantle of the "misconceptions"-point.
 

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Calibanbutcher said:
OK, I will put that one on the list then.

How does

"Common misconceptions about feminists, the feminist ideology and feminist goals" sound to you?
If we add this to the list, I would want to add an MRA version of this for balance sake, seeing as MRAs are often misrepresented as well.
That sounds great!

And I completely agree, MRA implications would help give the podcast balance and neutrality. Though don't look at me, we'd need someone better informed in MRA topics to tackle that one.
 

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Calibanbutcher said:
Have my babies Evil Smurf.
http://www.timebie.com/timelocal/greenwichmean.php This is a good site for working out time zones.
 
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Calibanbutcher said:
I'd like to hear about why men's reproductive rights and the men's rights movement are vilified by the more vocal feminists that you often see and hear today. For reference:


Also, what are the opinions on men's reproductive rights of the cast? What if the father wants to abort but the mother doesn't, does he then have the right to walk away with no repercussions or is he obliged to provide something? What if the mother wants to abort and the father doesn't? Is there any fair mid-way?
 

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The Unworthy Gentleman said:
Calibanbutcher said:
I'd like to hear about why men's reproductive rights and the men's rights movement are vilified by the more vocal feminists that you often see and hear today. For reference:


Also, what are the opinions on men's reproductive rights of the cast? What if the father wants to abort but the mother doesn't, does he then have the right to walk away with no repercussions or is he obliged to provide something? What if the mother wants to abort and the father doesn't? Is there any fair mid-way?
I will have to run this by the participants, but if they say yay, then we could do it.
But again, for balance's sake, I would propose to also include women's reproductive rights.




Another topic that might be interesting to discuss is the validity of "the patriarchy" and "privilege", two terms that usually come up in every discussion about feminism/sexism/gender-related-issue.
 
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Calibanbutcher said:
I will have to run this by the participants, but if they say yay, then we could do it.



Another topic that might be interesting to discuss is the validity of "the patriarchy" and "privilege", two terms that usually come up in every discussion about feminism/sexism/gender-related-issue.
Oh man, if you talk about privilege and the patriarchy I might not be able to watch, I'll see red and hear static and fly into an uncontrollable rage, destroying all life as we know it. It would be interesting to hear though. I'm usually in the argument myself so it'd be cool to take it from a different perspective. Thanks for taking my suggestion on board, I'd completely forgotten about the CommuniCast which is a shame since I was quite interested when the concept arose.
 

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I'd like to see their perspective on the enforcement of gender structure by peers.
as in; men ridiculing other men for not living up to the standards of "manliness" or women doing such to other women for not being properly "lady-like".

I suppose, for clarification on that subject, I rarely hear women complain about someone not being masculine enough, and I've heard the word "slut" far less from dudes than chicks.
 

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If you're talking about real world sexism, then perhaps parenting and child care would be a good topic. Pregnancy discrimination against women and discrimination faced by stay at home dads are two feminist issues I hear a lot about. A lot of women get passed up for promotions just because they might become pregnant. And later if the dad wants to stay home and for his kids he can end up facing being excluded from events, from things like Mommy and Me to even school meetings with teachers that assume that the mother will be the attending parent.

I'm not sure what the MRA stance or equivalent on those topics are, however. But it's broad enough a topic not to be too much in anyone's favor.
 

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Calibanbutcher said:
I will have to run this by the participants, but if they say yay, then we could do it.
But again, for balance's sake, I would propose to also include women's reproductive rights.
I am cool with that, and yes, we could do a general "reproductive rights of both genders" topic, if the others are willing.

Calibanbutcher said:
Another topic that might be interesting to discuss is the validity of "the patriarchy" and "privilege", two terms that usually come up in every discussion about feminism/sexism/gender-related-issue.
I have faith in my ability to provide a fair and neutral explanation of the terms (with citations and everything) in both a "formal definition" and a "layman's terms" way. So yes, that would be nice to tackle (though we could leave it for the end/beginning and include "rage warnings" for people who find it a touchy issue).

Combustion Kevin said:
This (also known as gender policing) would be really helpful to cover, since it's a very nice "this is a feminist issue that benefits men too" kind of thing.

FlipNormals said:
I've no problems with this.
 

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Evil Smurf said:
Thursday, 8:30 am me time? I can dig it
Uh, actually I am not sure. What was it last time for you?
Again, you are GMT + what now?
If you are AEST, then you are spot on.