The "Screaming Children on Mics" Argument

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SammiYin said:
Wow the elitism is really stinking this place up.
I personally don't have a problem with screaming children, they are hilarious to annoy, and if that fails just pretend you are attracted to them. They soon shut up.

I'd rather have screaming kids on my console than the nerd population polluting pc games, playing their shitty outdated memes down the mics constantly while their lackeys applaud like a collection of retarded chimps.
Wait...waitwaitwaitwaitwait!

You prefer THIS:
Typical 12 year old mic spammer said:
*pretend this is in all caps, being squealed out by a high pitched kid*: you stupid !@#$ing *insert racist comment* !@#ing *insert homophobic insult here*! Imma !@#$ing !@#$ your !@#$ing Grandma up the !@#$ing !@#$ you !@#$!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Over this?
meme spammer said:
I got the control point! All their base are belong to us! Our skills are over nine thousand, cuz we're row row fightin' the power!

Seriously, the meme spammer might be cringe worthy, but the 12 year old who spouts non stop insults in a high pitched voice just kills the fun. I play the game to play the game, not to troll trolls.

And it's a pain to have to mute them, especially when you're playing splitscreen online, since it takes TWO people out of the action while we go and mute the guy.
 

Cazza

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The problem is you have to mute them. One of games I play the most is last man standing. I pause for like 2 seconds to mute this little prick and get killed. Happens all the time.
 

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Well, any game that has children screaming on mics immediately loses its playability for me. I understand that you can just mute people if you need to, but it's so bloody commonplace to need to mute one of the little brats that you end up needing to just mute-all and be done with it. That transforms the game from co-op to a bunch of lone ranges blowing up a bunch of enemy lone rangers.

So, while I have (watched) people play Halo and COD in dead mic silence, I'll never see the appeal of that.

So far with TF2, I've only encountered a few children, and only had to mute one. The one I muted wouldn't stop begging for an item even though no one would trade with him and everyone was pleading with him to stop talking, so we had to eventually mute him if we wanted to win. Aside from that, mic-talk is essential to get strategy going and to save someone from a Spy attack unless you have the most envious WPM rate ever.

It really does make a big difference. I don't care if they're "too young to handle this game". I do care if all they do is just spout gibberish that does nothing to help their team out. A ten year old child that is constantly screaming "fags" at the top of his underdeveloped lungs is doing nothing for anybody besides making himself feel cool for saying a naughty word without mommy catching him.

Any game that attracts enough of them where "oh, you just play with mute-all, it's easy" is either so accessible that everybody loves it or is so stupid that little kids love it. In the case of Lag Ops, I'm guessing the latter. Given how much money you have to shell out for a game like BlOps, I'm surprised that anyone would be okay with having to immediately cut out a good chunk of online co-op play strategy because of screaming kids. It'd be like saying you love going to the pool, but that you shouldn't go into the deep end because all of the children that aren't allowed to swim there yet are standing by the edge pissing into it. Just because something is common where you go, doesn't mean it's okay.
 

blackcapedmanx

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The issue isn't merely that there are a bunch of screaming children playing console games, it's that the people in the game play like they're a bunch of screaming children. Imagine the player base for America's Army (probably the least forgiving online team shooter in history) back when it launched in 2003 who took every movement with the greatest of consideration and had to diligently work together even when mic communication wasn't anywhere near as universal as it is now. Compare to COD, where the three seconds it takes to watch the killcam after you die is usually skipped for being and unbearable separation from running randomly around a pointless and entirely non-tactical arena with a pair of sawed off shotguns hoping to happen to run into someone on the other team.
 

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No_Remainders said:
I just read a reason why (apparently) Black Ops was bad as being "screaming children and campers galore". This makes no sense. Sure, campers can be annoying, but screaming children do not affect the game or how it plays.
You do know Black ops is an M rated game which means no children should play it?
To put this as a real life example imagine this,
You are in a titty bar when a kid comes and start screaming that naked women are bad for health and mommy told them to not to drink or smoke.
 

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No_Remainders said:
So. We've all heard this before, the console fan-bases are shit because most of the people who play them are children who swear and shout inanely into their mics.

Ok, what does this have to do with anything? Yeah, sure, they're annoying, but there are mute buttons.

I just read a reason why (apparently) Black Ops was bad as being "screaming children and campers galore". This makes no sense. Sure, campers can be annoying, but screaming children do not affect the game or how it plays.

Seriously, learn what a mute button is and how it works.
For a lot of reasons. First and foremost you have to listen before the mute button can even be pressed. And honestly I don't want to hear how much of a f** I am from a person who can't purchase the game legally (at least in my country).

That being said BlOps on the computer is a lot more mellow prospect for me. I have yet to experience someone yelling obscenities at me and its a comforting prospect not having to mute a score of people to be able to sit through a game in quiet. More often than not people are friendly actually and most servers have some sort of profanity filter as well as a botchecker.
 

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Leviathan_ said:
Typical console user/BlOps player attitude who doesn't value teamwork at all. The reason why I switched over to PC gaming.

Sadly, it's amazing the difference in the types of players between the console and PC realms . . . reminds me of this: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/106526-PC-Gamers-Beat-Console-Crowd-to-Bad-Company-2-Vietnam-Map-Unlock

I'm not big on consoles, but I've spent quite some time around my friends who do a lot of gaming on xBox. The indifference other players have towards each other, the "every man for himself" mindset, and the immaturity simply astounds me. Even with some games that are designed around team-based play with everyone trying to function together as a whole unit (i.e. TF2), you'll find simply the opposite the majority of the time in the console community.

But, anyhow, back OT - I can't stand it, either . . . but the annoying, offensive voice speak isn't really a problem in the PC community. We occasionally get some children (both young and old), but it's enver been bad enough in any game for me to have to mute them. The majority of PC players still communicate via keyboard, anyhow, and the vast majority of all players are good sports about it all - routinely complimenting each other and simply having fun.
 

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Vibhor said:
No_Remainders said:
I just read a reason why (apparently) Black Ops was bad as being "screaming children and campers galore". This makes no sense. Sure, campers can be annoying, but screaming children do not affect the game or how it plays.
You do know Black ops is an M rated game which means no children should play it?
To put this as a real life example imagine this,
You are in a titty bar when a kid comes and start screaming that naked women are bad for health and mommy told them to not to drink or smoke.
The ratings are in place but that doesn't stop mommy from getting her child a game, especially considering how soft an M BlOps generally is. There are some disturbing moments but I don't think that most kids are in it for the story. Besides that point in other countries besides the United States rating are different, and are often just suggestions.

And your analogy really doesn't hold water. Maybe if the kid punched you in the nuts, called you a fag, then had sex with a stripper in front of you then it would make sense.
 

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Actually, in all my time online console gaming, I have maybe met, 3 maybe 4 annoying kids.

I don't get where people got this idea from? Most people don't even turn on their mics online, and when they do they're usually in a private party with their friends.
 

soulasylum85

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i play cod all the time and fortunately i dont have to deal with screaming kids or muting people. you see xbox has this thing called a "party" where you and your friends can talk to each other in a private room while you play your game. so that ends the whole "its a pain in the ass to mute everyone" arguement. and for you ps3 users (i have one to im not putting down the ps3) you are stuck muting everyone, unfortunately sony hasnt seen the usefullness and necessity of a party chat function yet. although you could just activate your blutooth and not put it on... those things are shit for chat anyway.
 

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TheShogun said:
SL33TBL1ND said:
That's the thing. I shouldn't have to mute anyone. Let's just put a couple of games side-by-side here. When I play TF2 I never mute anyone, everyone is polite (as far as gamers go), funny and interesting to talk to. When I play COD on the other-hand, I routinely have mute-all on purely because I don't want to deal with the immature bullshit that comes out of those kid's mouths. I shouldn't have to deal with that shit, and yet there seems to be a huge concentration of those sorts of people in that player-base.
Why should they have less right to play COD than you?
"Screaming into a headset" is not "playing".
 

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Sizzle Montyjing said:
TheShogun said:
SL33TBL1ND said:
That's the thing. I shouldn't have to mute anyone. Let's just put a couple of games side-by-side here. When I play TF2 I never mute anyone, everyone is polite (as far as gamers go), funny and interesting to talk to. When I play COD on the other-hand, I routinely have mute-all on purely because I don't want to deal with the immature bullshit that comes out of those kid's mouths. I shouldn't have to deal with that shit, and yet there seems to be a huge concentration of those sorts of people in that player-base.
Why should they have less right to play COD than you?
It's called the age rating.
On your way! You've been dealt with.

My brother is like those screaming kids, he just doesn't use a mic.
But when he plays COD, i want to murder him.
As your brother, you're legally allowed to inflict non-bruising beatdowns without any consequences beyond what your parents can dish out.

So go ahead, make him subconciously check the room for phonebooks every time he turns on his Xbox.
 

Versuvius

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Why aren't these screaming dipsticks just banned? Surely there are ops or what have you capable of just banning their console ID or...something.
 

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ITT: PC Gamers denying the fact that little screaming children run all over their servers as well.

Admittedly, most servers I've seen have a "No Mic if Your Balls Haven't Dropped Yet" rule, but kids don't read these days.

Also, this is one of the reasons I generally only play fighting games online. No one uses a microphone on SSF4, and no children play fighting games because they're hard. Of course, that doesn't stop my friends learning to play being as annoying if not more than the kids...
 

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E.Blackadder said:
It's hard with the age rating. If a 13 year old wants alcohol (6 pack for instance) their parents don't make the decision as to wether he/she is responsible enough. It's the law. Annoying as it is, games are the same . It's illegal for a 13 year old to play a R18.
On topic, sure you could mute kids like that, and some might argue freedom of speech and all that, but you shouldn't have to. My advice is to tell them calmly how annoying they are, then shoot them in the back. That will shut them up.

EDIT: Ignore the 'shut them up' part, it will probably intensify the annoyance and therefore make things more enjoyable for you.
it isnt illegal for a 13 year old to play an r18 or m rated game its only illegal for them to buy it. just like cigarettes, porn, and r rated movies... not illegal to use just illegal to buy.
 

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Hate to break up the party, but I get more abusive rage mail/bullshit during session from people who are at least 20+ than I do from younger gamers, especially in the us timezone for some reason.

By abusive I mean expletives/racial slurs/threats in rl. I maturity is not limited by age group folks.