The Sims 3 berates you for having a child out of 'wedlock' Yes they use that word...
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I'd like them to at least reword it so it doesn't sound like having a child is a criminal act. I agree with you that on each side thier should be free speech. We disagree with faux news but we don't say they should be shut down and erased from history. I'd like to point out that they also make stuff up like bronies claiming benefits so the can stay at home and watch ponies...Xanthious said:
I just think that this is kind of offensive and unessacarily worded.
My thoughts exactly. Report if you feel the need and move on.Mouse_Crouse said:
If they had turned into a way to make fun of the media frenzy that surrounds such things, I think it would have been better. It was that they called it shameful. Embarrassed by gossip maybe?
I can't speak for every instance of banning on The Sims 3's forums but of those times I've seen people get banned, it's usually because they lost their civility and/or broke forum rules.xXxJessicaxXx said:
Oh I certainly don't think you're making it up. After seeing this thread, I went to The Sims 3's forums and did a search. It seems back in November of 2010 many people did bring up the issue but the majority had the opposite reaction: They found it humorous and ridiculous rather than an insult.
The idea that a celebrity has a child out of wedlock is usually considered "juicy gossip" by tabloids even today. Personally, I don't feel the negative moodlet is that big a deal but if I were a programmer at EA and I read this, I would see about changing the wording so it sounded funny, instead of coming off as a generalized insult to unmarried people. Out of context, it would seem that way. Fully revealed, it seems less of a generalized insult and more of a poke at celebrity gossip and how celebs just living their lives normally are often treated harshly by public scrutiny.
I'm not going to try and make a comment on the morality of having this in the game or the likes. Just thought it would be interesting to mention Arnold Schwarzenegger. He's a celebrity and it really didn't go that well for him PR-wise when it became public knowledge that he had a child out of wedlock. Actually, I seem to recall reading here on the Escapist that the animated show "The Governator*" was put on indefinite hold for this very reason.
I'd like to make clear that children out of wedlock poses no moral problem with me on any level, but I can see a certain validity in including the whole "publicly disgraced"-thing in The Sims. It does strike me as insensitive that only women can get it though.
That's my five cents
I'd like to make clear that children out of wedlock poses no moral problem with me on any level, but I can see a certain validity in including the whole "publicly disgraced"-thing in The Sims. It does strike me as insensitive that only women can get it though.
That's my five cents
Honestly I find this stranger then the wording itself. Heck as you pointed out Arnold got SLAMMED over this. Now to be fair he is married to someone else, and that is seen as worse by far. But the point that men should get it too stands.Vivendel said:
Darn inflation?Vivendel said:
I find this rather funny, because it reminded me of a time when I was working retail at Gamestop.
This woman comes in with her eight year old child and demands to have this game returned because it is such vile filth. Turns out it was Sims 3, and she was disgusted that you could have children on the game and out of wedlock!
The irony of the situation is that she left with Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas(this was obviously before the discovery of a certain mod) despite all of the things I said the game contained.
I never could understand certain people who come into that store.
This woman comes in with her eight year old child and demands to have this game returned because it is such vile filth. Turns out it was Sims 3, and she was disgusted that you could have children on the game and out of wedlock!
The irony of the situation is that she left with Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas(this was obviously before the discovery of a certain mod) despite all of the things I said the game contained.
I never could understand certain people who come into that store.
Do you grasp what free speech means? Freedom of speech is just that, freedom to convey WHATEVER message they choose. Some of those might rub us, as gamers, the wrong way. If and when they do we should be better than places like Fox News and NOT raise a fuss like this. You essentially want EA to change their message in SIMS 3 to better accommodate your personal beliefs. If a non gaming group did the same, and say asked EA to remove the option for single SIMS to have children at all, we would be livid.xXxJessicaxXx said:
Excellent social commentary on the part of EA?
Seriously, A LOT of people would react this way to a child born out of wedlock. It sucks, but it's true. Not me though, I can't think that way. If I did, i'd hate my own sister.
Seriously, A LOT of people would react this way to a child born out of wedlock. It sucks, but it's true. Not me though, I can't think that way. If I did, i'd hate my own sister.
I don't think that the opinion of a rural area in England counts as the majority opinion. Where I live, a lot of people do have this kind of opinion about single parents. Besides, your sim is a celebrity, right? The media likes to find whatever information they can about some celebrities and use it to make them seem terrible/irresponsible/immoral. I'd say that the mood decrease makes sense, wouldn't you feel down if the press was making you out to be a bad person or irresponsible or whatever?xXxJessicaxXx said:
That is bad.
My half-sister doesn't believe in marriage and had two daughters by her long-term cohabiting partner. They're still together and their kids are 26 and 22 and well-adjusted straight-A students (the eldest is working towards a PhD at Cambridge). They only got married when he got a contract job in Saudi Arabia and she of course would not have been allowed to stay with him there if they were not married, due to religious customs.
OTOH, I saw a woman today putting lip gloss on her 2 year old toddler. I don't know if she was a single mum or not, but that is the sort of behaviour that should really earn you some public disgrace points.
My half-sister doesn't believe in marriage and had two daughters by her long-term cohabiting partner. They're still together and their kids are 26 and 22 and well-adjusted straight-A students (the eldest is working towards a PhD at Cambridge). They only got married when he got a contract job in Saudi Arabia and she of course would not have been allowed to stay with him there if they were not married, due to religious customs.
OTOH, I saw a woman today putting lip gloss on her 2 year old toddler. I don't know if she was a single mum or not, but that is the sort of behaviour that should really earn you some public disgrace points.
Yes but you would think that other progressive areas like New York for example would have that view far before the area in which I live since I basically live in the Shire... -.-IronicBeet said:
that 'fear' only occurs if your sim has the proper characteristic traits for it to appear. I have several other sims whom have had small armies worth of kids out of wedlock from multipule partners and never once saw this attribute appear for them.It is just like the fear 'Use public Restroom'. up the slob traits and see how often this fear appears for you...
Anyways it is just like real life. certain people with more traditional or religious beliefs will become greatly stressed when they bare young out of wedlock while there are a great many others whom are not as influenced by any such thing at all.
Anyways it is just like real life. certain people with more traditional or religious beliefs will become greatly stressed when they bare young out of wedlock while there are a great many others whom are not as influenced by any such thing at all.
Really though? I know a lot of people who just don't bother to get married at all and they all have children. I find the notion that you have to be married to have children very strange. What about unplanned pregnancies? Should those people just get married for that reason only?BlackEagle95 said:
I'm not saying they should delete it just make it a bit less vicious. I don't think that is too unreasonable within the idea of free speech.Xanthious said: