The Sims 3 berates you for having a child out of 'wedlock' Yes they use that word...

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Pyro Paul

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xXxJessicaxXx said:
Personally it made my blood boil. There is absolutely no shame in having children out of wedlock these days and many couple choose to remain unmarried because of cost and also religious (or lack of) beliefs.
actions that can also cause the 'publicly disgraced' moodlet:

Woohoo in public
Divorce
Woohoo with the Occult
Caught Cheating
Wetting self in public


it is supposed to be any socially negative event which is also highly publicised.
 

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MasterOfHisOwnDomain said:
Those messages are considered tongue-in-cheek, i.e., not to be taken very seriously. The fact that the game features vampires, toasted cheese cults and other such stuff should tell you that The Sims 3 isn't a vital tool for social commentary...
I am offended at their portrayal of toasted cheese cults. We... they are nothing like that depiction.
 

Falcon123

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When a celebrity has a child out of wedlock in real life, you can bet TMZ is going to do everything they can to make these people miserable with slanderous segments, and the tabloids will be equally unkind. Then, a few days later, everyone will realize it's a cute little baby and the celebrity will fall out of public display and will return with (hopefully) the poise to withstand harsh questions and turn an initially negative reaction into a positive one.

While I think this is an awful thing to do to celebrities, it does make sense given the paparazzi's job is to make headlines and grab attention. It's exactly what would happen in real life, so why shouldn't it happen in a game? Don't hate EA for this (there are so many other, better reasons to hate EA, or have you forgotten the Dead Space 2 marketing campaign so soon), hate society and the paparazzi for making this an actual occurrence in life. EA just made the game more realistic; if you want stuff like this to not come up again, help change the way the world is. That's all you can really do in the end anyway.
 

demotion1

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If a star has a child outside of wedlock the media will be all over him/her. The only problem i see is that only female sims get that moodlet. Let's not forget the media still live in the 20's. There have even been "scandals" where single people went with prostitutes.
 

Eomega123

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I think the problem is that the game is calling them bad actions and innapropriate behavior. It's completely fine if the characters view you negatively for your actions, but the text-box itself is passing judgement on you. A better message would be something like 'You had a child out of wedlock, the public thinks you're a bad person'.
 

Micalas

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zarguhl said:
b3nn3tt said:
What shame is there in raising a child as a single parent? And what 'bad reasons' do people have for not getting married? Because in my experience, I've never come across any untoward reasons for people not anting to marry.
If they are a single parent for a reason like their partner died, there's no shame. But if they knowingly decide to do so it's just irresponsible and if you look into the persons history you'll always find a track record of cheating, one night-stands, etc.

One of the common reasons for not wanting to marry that I've heard is "not wanting the responsibility of marriage," yet still having kids. Which does well to show just where that person is at.

There is a very strong effort to destroy the family going on these days, as the family is the last group that has any real strength left in it now that religious groups have mostly been destroyed.

Once families are fully destroyed society will be totally screwed and civilization will end with a whimper.
Or maybe it's because marriage doesn't accomplish anything? If I live with a partner for years on end, will I magically love her more because some words were read out of a 2000 year old book?

No, there is no effort to destroy the family. You're playing the victim because people are starting to notice that many religious traditions are backwards and un-needed.
 

Alexlion

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Coming from a game with homosexual relations etc being accepted i would have thought this would be acceptable, i mean in this day in age who cares?
 

Amondren

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I mean I understand having that negative moodlet for having a kid when your not married and a celebrity that's a scandal and stuff but I don't understand not giving it to the guy also I mean they both had a *ahem* "part in it".
 

ProfessorLayton

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The Epicosity said:
Wait, these are the same people who that made Dante's Inferno and Dead Space.

Hypocritical much?
Not even close. EA published those games, not made them.

Mouse_Crouse said:
xXxJessicaxXx said:
Mouse_Crouse said:
Having looked it up online it seems to be tied to your "celebrity" status. If you do anything (and this qualifies) that the "public" deems "unsavory" as a celebrity you are shamed for 3 days.
It is yes, but its still doesn't justify it. Unmarried filmstars have kids all the time and the media loves them...
Sometimes the media isn't fair. They can and do try to push their morals on other people. Heck it may not be average thoughts today. But many people still find this distasteful and being a celebrity opens you up to public opinion. Is it "fair" no, is it an interesting game mechanic, I say yes. Dealing with public opinion is a neat feature for a celebrity IMO.
That was kind of the point of saying "publicly shamed." I can assume that if you were playing on any other track, I can assume that the message doesn't show up (I haven't played the Sims 3 since it came out... it's been a while). And another thing... the message seems extremely sarcastic. I think you're overreacting...

EDIT: And also, you can have gay Sims in it with no consequences... what they did was made a sarcastic little joke about how some people view sex before marriage, especially when viewing celebrities. The Sims is far from conservative.
 

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zarguhl said:
b3nn3tt said:
What shame is there in raising a child as a single parent? And what 'bad reasons' do people have for not getting married? Because in my experience, I've never come across any untoward reasons for people not anting to marry.
If they are a single parent for a reason like their partner died, there's no shame. But if they knowingly decide to do so it's just irresponsible and if you look into the persons history you'll always find a track record of cheating, one night-stands, etc.

One of the common reasons for not wanting to marry that I've heard is "not wanting the responsibility of marriage," yet still having kids. Which does well to show just where that person is at.

There is a very strong effort to destroy the family going on these days, as the family is the last group that has any real strength left in it now that religious groups have mostly been destroyed.

Once families are fully destroyed society will be totally screwed and civilization will end with a whimper.
Most people just don't see the point, if you love someone why can it not be acceptable until the goverment is in on it?
 

Macrobstar

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There is no logic in having a child out of wedlock. There are excuses as to why to do it but none are logical if you are thinking of the child first and the parents second. Which is why they are excuses, they are selfish on the parents end. A child with parents that care enough to lock arms and vow to the world to work together is better than 2 parents who have a reason they don't want to make that statement outside of when they are snuggling on the couch.

EDIT: Sorry, you got nauseated of this topic before I posted this. Don't puke on your keyboard.
My uncle and aunt had two children before they where married, they where raised in a stable enviroment and they are the nicest kids you have ever met, they loved eachother so why does it matter whether they where married or not
 

Racistman3d

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People honestly are getting offended over this? This is what happens in reality, if anything EA/Maxis are bringing to light that having a child out of marriage get's you negative public attention, They aren't telling you what you did is bad, just that other people will think things about you (and don't try saying that people don't judge others in 2011 over things like this, this sort of stuff still is very much existent now.)