The Sorrow Rants On Twilight, Because He Has Nothing Better To Do

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The Sorrow

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Originally posted elsewhere. Please give me some honest critique so I may master the art of hating things.

To begin: no, I have not read the books. I also never will. I have read about someone becoming physically ill while reading the original, and don't intend to do the same.
Just reading reviews and plot summaries are enough to piss me off. Hell, I'm fairly certain that a plot summary of Twilight is equivalent to the book (minus 200 or so pages of explaining how sexy Edward Cullen is).

To paraphrase our Lord and Savior, Benjamin Yahtzee Sebastian Godzilla Croshaw, teenage angst novels and I have an agreement: I don't read them and they can suck as much as they want far away from me. If Twilight had been just another noxious bubble in the toxic morass that is contemporary literature, I wouldn't have given two shits. Not even one shit, in fact. But no, it had to go and stink up the mainstream. I was fine with that, even.

Then I read about it. About how the vampires fucking sparkle. Sure, it's original, but so is trying to make a car that runs on dead squirrels: just because it's original does not mean it's good.

I'm pretty sure it's a well-known fact that vampires do NOT sparkle in the sunlight. They fucking disintegrate. Jesus Howard McLeroy Christ III, esq., people!

And then, it was freaking on.

Since I'm already on the topic, let's talk about Twilight's twinkling twats. If I'm not mistaken, the vampires sparkle to help them attract prey (i.e. humans). Now, I don't know about you, but unless I had recently consumed a massive quantity of hallucinogenic substances, if I saw someone sparkling, I would run the fuck away.

"But wait!" you may be saying. "It's Stephenie Meyer's book! She can do whatever she wants with vampires!"

First, shut up. Second, let me tell you about the concept of artistic liberties. I will be using two examples.

My first is a relatively recent endeavor: Kohta Hirano's legendary Hellsing, a manga that ended an eleven-year run recently. Its main character is a lanky vampire known as Alucard. To put it bluntly, if the concept of being badass had a physical form, it would be Alucard. Nigh-invincible, strong as an ox, and wielding a pair of obscenely large handguns, he cut a bloody swath through every foe he faced.

Of course, there were many other vampires. A few of them wielded bizarre, interesting abilities, such as the creation of illusions or the usage of a musket that fired a homing ball. Add this to the extremely cool (for lack of a better word) character designs, and you get something that is both good and original.

The best part? None of the vampires were pussies (well, maybe one, but she made up for it when she ground somebody's head against a wall until they had half a face).

My second example is a piece of fiction that fits into the regular definition of "literature": Richard Matheson's I Am Legend. The book, which does not have that much in common with the recent adaptation starring Will Smith, is a sobering tale of the last man on Earth.

In addition to being a classic, the book succeeds in giving a realistic, believable vampire biology, giving all of their weaknesses a scientific basis (in his story, vampirism is caused by a strain of bacteria). Even the title is a metaphor, and a brilliant one at that.

There. I just gave you two pieces of fiction superior to Twilight.

Now, let's discuss the story.

From what I gather, the entire basis of these four-I hesitate to call them books-is the relationship between the biggest Mary-Sue this side of FanFiction.net and a vampire with about as much personality as the mold that grows in people's showers. Also, in a stunning (/sarcasm) plot twist, there is a third person in all this: Jacob the werewolf, who actually seems believable.

Stephenie Meyer claims that she isn't a very good writer, but is a good storyteller. She's one-for-two, there.

According to reviews and summaries, the plot is basically this:

"Hi! I'm Jacob. I respect you as a person and would be a kind and loving husband."
"EEWWWWW!!"
"Hello. My name is Edward. Being over a hundred years old, I am legally a pedophile, but I'm so damn sexy that you won't care."
"SQUEEEE!"

I wish I was fucking kidding.

Let me tell you something about good storytelling. Getting hormone-crazed teenage girls to fall in love with the epitome of manliness is not good storytelling. Do you know what good storytelling is? Getting readers to fall in love (metaphorically) with a 5'6", 140, brutal, ugly-as-sin objectivist with a penchant for destroying people's hands. Drawing from the same piece of literature, the storytelling was so brilliant that I felt sympathy for a man who almost raped someone and shot the woman who was carrying his child.

Probably the greatest sin committed by Meyer takes place in the last book, when she completely goes back on her established vampire biology and makes it so that vampires can make babies. Ignoring the obvious question of how a person with no blood flow can get a boner, this angers me to no end. You don't retcon your own books. EVER. That would be like Terry Pratchett saying that the Discworld is actually round and that Great A'Tuin doesn't actually exist.

To finish: why do I hate Twilight? Because of the effect it will have on literature. Schlock like this gaining bestseller status opens the door for aspiring authors to eschew character development in favor of shitty angst.

Congratulations, Stephenie Meyer. You may have destroyed modern literature.

Everyone, I ask a favor: every time you see someone holding a copy of Twilight or one of its sequels, burn the copy and stick Bram Stoker's Dracula or I Am Legend in there, instead.

Vampires don't sparkle, and we're going to make sure that these Twitards understand this.
 

PedroSteckecilo

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Twilight: The only book bad enough to cause my book loving room mate to throw it out the window and then to debate lighting it on fire. The copy belonged to the library, this is not a normal thing.
 

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"Hi! I'm Jacob. I respect you as a person and would be a kind and loving husband."
"EEWWWWW!!"
"Hello. My name is Edward. Being over a hundred years old, I am legally a pedophile, but I'm so damn sexy that you won't care."
"SQUEEEE!"

Actually, that's blown way out of proportion in most reviews. In fact, Edward never acknowledges his attractive nature, and Jacob is someone that tries to force himself upon Bella in many situations, one time even using his strength to kiss her without her permission. Not to mention that those particular stereotypes of the characters don't come in until the second and third book.

I don't think you can give a fair rant based on plot summaries and a few things you've heard. It's like the Mass Effect Scandal on Fox News. They heard a few things (the sex scene and violence) and immediately declared it the work of Satan that's corrupting the youth. That's what I'm seeing here again.

I will admit. Twilight is poorly written, and the two main characters (Bella and Edward) do irritate me (but for reasons that you didn't actually mention). The fanbase is equally annoying, and I can't stand to be around them. However, you fail to realize that there is more to the book than just their relationship and more to the situation than just the crazy fans.

Like I stated in a previous post, most people hate twilight because of what it did to vampires. It turned them into something not evil and menacing, so people hate it almost immediately. Hearing you wail on about Bram Stroker and I am Legend just seems to make that point feel all the more same.

Read the book, and then I'd be more entitled to listen to you complain about nothing.

Edit: Another mistake you make. The vampires don't sparkle to attract prey. It's just a side effect of their skin's pigment(which is unusually pale).
 

The Sorrow

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I've yet to hear a single compelling reason to actually read the entire book.
You can declare someone guilty of a crime without having seen it based on evidence. Fox had no evidence.
Here, have some raw statistics: http://otahyoni.livejournal.com/130432.html
165 fucking times. That's how many times Bella said Edward was sexy.
EVERYTHING I have seen about it makes me want to echo Robert Pattinson's (male lead of the movie, mind you) sentiment: "...I was just convinced that, that this woman is mad, she's completely mad, and she's in love with her own fictional creation."

What is there beyond the relationship? The almost bipolar antics? "I love you! STAY AWAY FROM ME I'M DANGEROUS! I love you!"
The COMPLETELY undeveloped characters? Seriously, that ***** Bella has no life except for wanting to bone her buddy.
And how the fuck can someone whose sperm has been dead for a hundred fucking years make a baby (which is probably the second-biggest Mary-Sue I have ever seen)?
 

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Two things, and I'll be on my way.

1) I never once told you to outright read the book (although if it was implied, feel free to ignore it). I simply stated that you shouldn't outright bash something without having even read it. I personally hate it when people tell me what to read, and it makes me less likely to read it. So I really don't care if you do or do not read it, I was simply stating that you aren't as likely to get sympathy when you provide false information acquired by a simple google search.

2) I don't think a livejournal page is a legitimate source of factual information for one to actually take seriously, nor would I ever consider using one to provide backup for an argument.

Meh. I really don't care in the long run of things. People are going to hate something irregardless.
 

The Sorrow

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I did not find the information on Google, and was unaware of the fact that they sparkle because they're pale.
Which makes even less sense when you think about it. Shouldn't the average nerd be goin' off like a disco ball every time he steps outside?
 

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Thank you, that was brilliant. The Twilight series needs to be mocked as often and as brutally as possible. Kudos.
 

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Anonymouse said:
No. They dont. That is just hollywood bullshit. Vampires are weakened by sunlight yes and lose alot of their supernatural power but noone, not even the newly risen, ever "fucking disintegrate".
Going from being weakened to death (either combustion or disintegration) in sunlight is a completely reasonable evolution of the mythology. Stephanie Meyer went the opposite direction without nary a backwards glance.

Frankly, getting into the science and biology of a MYTHICAL CREATURE speaks of going a bit too far for criticism. You either run with it from word one, or waste a whole lot of time. Angel and Darla (both vampires) had a human son in the second and third season of Angel. Did I care that it's against the laws of make believe creatures? Hell no. Because it was good compelling fun.

And maybe ease up on the Yahtzee-isms, although I do like the alliteration with "Twinkling Twilight Twats."
 

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Sparkling vampires? This sounds ker-ayy-zee. I've heard references to these books before, but they've seemed almost alien, like some sort of strange species of cult tribe that lives on sparkle and ... err, books.

It's one of those things, like tabletop gaming. There's a Warhammer club in my school every Monday night, but I've never considered trying it and never will, because it's weird and it seems like it is shrouded in mysticalness and bullshit. It's the same with this, I imagine overweight teenagers with black t-shirts and spiky, disorganised hair buying these books and chatting to other people of similar interests before going and getting high on magical vampire sparkle. It's weird and I'm ignoring them for a reason. I associate this mental image with a terrible book, and my assumptions from people who are not said cultists seem to state the same.

I also wear a black shirt. But it says "QUEEN plus Paul Rogers- The Cosmos Rocks" on it, so it doesn't bloody count.
 

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If you ever wanted to read about vampires and romance (if you're a chick) then why don't you just read Anne Rice before she completely went insane (according to my girl friend). Besides, you said I am Legend was fucking awesome one of the best books I've ever read. Not the movie, I walked out on it's not sticking to the fucking awesome plot.

Twatlight and all it's aborted children shitbooks are the books to burn, but from a distance of maybe 1000 meters. If you get too close you might inhale the smoke awful angst and shittiness. There's should be protocol for burning that book and liquifing the ashes. I've also reserved the right amongst my open clique of friends to call them names. The girls, I call them Idiots; guys I just say that they've lost their balls.
 

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The Sorrow said:
The COMPLETELY undeveloped characters? Seriously, that ***** Bella has no life except for wanting to bone her buddy.
Even if you haven't read the book, you would be right there. Bella is the most unlikeable ***** in the book; her actions, thoughts and mannerisms are just despicable.

If teenage girls actually think she is a rolemodel, I fear for the next generation.
 

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http://www.pajiba.com/twilight-review.htm the only review I could find that wasn't just a summary (read it its hilarious)
 

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The Sorrow said:
According to reviews and summaries, the plot is basically this:

"Hi! I'm Jacob. I respect you as a person and would be a kind and loving husband."
"EEWWWWW!!"
"Hello. My name is Edward. Being over a hundred years old, I am legally a pedophile, but I'm so damn sexy that you won't care."
"SQUEEEE!"

I wish I was fucking kidding.
I laughed so damn hard when I read this. Have a cookie, sir.


The Sorrow said:
Do you know what good storytelling is? Getting readers to fall in love (metaphorically) with a 5'6", 140, brutal, ugly-as-sin objectivist with a penchant for destroying people's hands. Drawing from the same piece of literature, the storytelling was so brilliant that I felt sympathy for a man who almost raped someone and shot the woman who was carrying his child.
Just out of curiosity, which piece of literature or otherwise is said brutal objectivist from?
 

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The_Oracle said:
The Sorrow said:
According to reviews and summaries, the plot is basically this:

"Hi! I'm Jacob. I respect you as a person and would be a kind and loving husband."
"EEWWWWW!!"
"Hello. My name is Edward. Being over a hundred years old, I am legally a pedophile, but I'm so damn sexy that you won't care."
"SQUEEEE!"

I wish I was fucking kidding.
I laughed so damn hard when I read this. Have a cookie, sir.


The Sorrow said:
Do you know what good storytelling is? Getting readers to fall in love (metaphorically) with a 5'6", 140, brutal, ugly-as-sin objectivist with a penchant for destroying people's hands. Drawing from the same piece of literature, the storytelling was so brilliant that I felt sympathy for a man who almost raped someone and shot the woman who was carrying his child.
Just out of curiosity, which piece of literature or otherwise is said brutal objectivist from?
I'm thinking it's The Watchmen. The man who almost raped someone and shot the pregnant woman sounds an awful lot like The Comedian.
 

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CodeChrono said:
Meh. I really don't care in the long run of things. People are going to hate something IRREGARDLESS.
please, never use that word again. It is the single biggest plague to the English language next to hyberbole.

On topic, I read the first book and it was terrible. Not because of what they did to the vampire myth, but because of how a generic its love story is. The smart bookish girl moves to a new town and falls in love with the dark mysterious guy who sits in the back of the lunchroom. He may be cold but she sees the soft side in him that nobody else can...Oh and then some guy attacks his girl and he beats up the jerk.

I refuse to read the next book until I find one redeemable quality about the series.