The Spoony One has been ejected from That Guy With the Glasses.

[JimB]

Just so we're clear, the one waving the white flag is the one asking for peace.

I'm not sure how to take this. Are you saying Mr. Antwiler was the one waving a white flag, meaning he was the only one, which means Channel Awesome was still continuing some kind of campaign against him?

 

[Archer666]

Assuming he's able to get into the entertainment business.

Whether he succeeds or not, his name is on IMDB.com with a list of of the shows he's been doing for the past half a decade or so. There is documentation he's been in this generation's equivalent of television.

Assuming he's actually doing anything to get into the business instead of just sitting on his ass and making videos hoping that someone will contact HIM to offer him a job.

He's credited as doing some voice work in an upcoming Robot Chicken special, so that's a piece of work he's legitimately getting paid to act in. Is that better?

1) Oh yeah, if we're talking about the kind of level of entertainment business he's in(or was) now, then sure. Low-level reviews and vlogs can be good entertainment. I was talking about the big business, which I believe is Spoony's goal. But if he's planning on using his site as a "launch pad to greater things" then I'm sorry, but that won't work now. He damaged his own image several times already and I doubt that any studio would approach him. If he gets himself treated and starts working his ass off, then maybe he'll get lucky.

2) Give me some non IMDB sources where it says that he'll be in Robot Chicken. Because so far, all the results I'm finding don't have his name anywhere. And IMDB has been known to make up actor lists for things that haven't aired yet.

 

[Dr Jones]

Also, regardless any power plays or hidden agendas you see from Lupa, Spoony is not entirely blameless in this. He could have accepted his Channel Awesome 30 days suspension like a man.

He did. On his Twitter he announced "Just been suspended from Channel Awesome for 30 days. I agree with it". But he kept being bugged by twit-harassment, so he lashed out completely.

 

[TheDrunkNinja]

Just so we're clear, the one waving the white flag is the one asking for peace.

I'm not sure how to take this. Are you saying Mr. Antwiler was the one waving a white flag, meaning he was the only one, which means Channel Awesome was still continuing some kind of campaign against him?

Of course not.

You, however, were saying, in your literal interpretation of his words, that not only was he not trying to make peace but that he probably thought it was hopeless.

If you want to take something as literal, however, there's nothing more literal in terms of a desire for peace than waving a white flag. No doubt his newly diagnosed mental illness has mellowed him to start thinking with his right mind again, yet you don't seem to acknowledge this behavior as a progressively better development. I don't know why that is.

 

[VoiceOfTheVoiceless]

Still sad Lupa is going to get away with what she did. Hell, Lordkat even said several times he only had her on because the Spoony situation would make him money (people listening on his stream, I guess) and she sat there, smug as a cat who finally killed the rat she had been eyeing for months, and let him go on saying it. Spoony is not blameless in all of this. Lupa, on the other hand, gets away scott free with the havoc she caused. As I stated in an earlier post, part of it is probably that you lose her, you lose Phelous as well. That's what happens with "workplace" romances sometimes. Yeah, Holly & Linkara can say she had nothing to do with it. Evidence provided points otherwise.

Props to Angry Joe, Brad Jones and Bennett the Sage who all stated they would stand behind their friend.

 

[Karadalis]

Still sad Lupa is going to get away with what she did. Hell, Lordkat even said several times he only had her on because the Spoony situation would make him money (people listening on his stream, I guess) and she sat there, smug as a cat who finally killed the rat she had been eyeing for months, and let him go on saying it. Spoony is not blameless in all of this. Lupa, on the other hand, gets away scott free with the havoc she caused. As I stated in an earlier post, part of it is probably that you lose her, you lose Phelous as well. That's what happens with "workplace" romances sometimes. Yeah, Holly & Linkara can say she had nothing to do with it. Evidence provided points otherwise.

Props to Angry Joe, Brad Jones and Bennett the Sage who all stated they would stand behind their friend.

Even if Lupa wasnt the reason he got fired, her behaviour is still highly unprofessional not to say outright mobbing with her later comments. Also with her having much more contact with Noah then any of us will ever have (aka. working together with the guy) she should have known what would happen if she seeks open public conflict with him

Yes i said mobbing.

And people should finaly realize (and think about it for a moment) that spoony has a more then just depressions and not only since yesterday. Just cause the doc only recently diagnosed him doesnt mean that he had this personal disorder just since that day.

The sheer arrogance of people saying "Well he behaves like an asshsole so he deserves what happens" is mind boogling. Thats also ofcourse while people with mental diseases are legally allways fully accountable for what they do in the legal system rrrrright?

Some people would do good to do some reasearch on the topic of depressions and bipolar disorder (the sequel) before they post their opinion.. maybe that will make them look less then a whiny brat bitching about that someone on the internet was mean to them and other fans.

Also @JimB

We are supposed to belief you that you also have a mental disease by your own words only but then you go on to question if spoony one isnt simply lying to all of us about his bipolar 2 disorder?

You do realize that youre throwing stones while sitting in a glasshouse with that one right?

Not to hate on you but it looks like youre measuring with two standards here.. one for yourselfe and one for spoony

 

[Jegsimmons]

Still sad Lupa is going to get away with what she did. Hell, Lordkat even said several times he only had her on because the Spoony situation would make him money (people listening on his stream, I guess) and she sat there, smug as a cat who finally killed the rat she had been eyeing for months, and let him go on saying it. Spoony is not blameless in all of this. Lupa, on the other hand, gets away scott free with the havoc she caused. As I stated in an earlier post, part of it is probably that you lose her, you lose Phelous as well. That's what happens with "workplace" romances sometimes. Yeah, Holly & Linkara can say she had nothing to do with it. Evidence provided points otherwise.

Props to Angry Joe, Brad Jones and Bennett the Sage who all stated they would stand behind their friend.

Even if Lupa wasnt the reason he got fired, her behaviour is still highly unprofessional not to say outright mobbing with her later comments. Also with her having much more contact with Noah then any of us will ever have (aka. working together with the guy) she should have known what would happen if she seeks open public conflict with him

Yes i said mobbing.

And people should finaly realize (and think about it for a moment) that spoony has a more then just depressions and not only since yesterday. Just cause the doc only recently diagnosed him doesnt mean that he had this personal disorder just since that day.

The sheer arrogance of people saying "Well he behaves like an asshsole so he deserves what happens" is mind boogling. Thats also ofcourse while people with mental diseases are legally allways fully accountable for what they do in the legal system rrrrright?

Some people would do good to do some reasearch on the topic of depressions and bipolar disorder (the sequel) before they post their opinion.. maybe that will make them look less then a whiny brat bitching about that someone on the internet was mean to them and other fans.

Also @JimB

We are supposed to belief you that you also have a mental disease by your own words only but then you go on to question if spoony one isnt simply lying to all of us about his bipolar 2 disorder?

You do realize that youre throwing stones while sitting in a glasshouse with that one right?

Not to hate on you but it looks like youre measuring with two standards here.. one for yourselfe and one for spoony

Lets see, he has depression
Heart problems
and now Bipolar 2 the quickening.
all of which can make people irritated, all of which he has to balance meds for that wont kill him, and all of which can give him manic mood swings.

To be honest, spoony needs alot of mental support for what he's going through. i dont blame him for being irritated or being slow with reviews, the dude is one of the funnier people of CA. CA is slowly turning to crap anyway. If Sage, Brad, or Joe or anyone else gets fired or anything, i think we all know it would be issues with CA and not the filmmakers.

 

[Chronologist]

I honestly don't know a lot about the twitter messages that were sent back and forth, but I think I get the gist of it. Noah made an off-color remark, Lupa raised hell about it and provoked him, he responded in kind, and was kicked off the site.

...

I understand what you're saying in the rest of the comment, but I just thought I better basically address this bit...

In a way, this is sort of a self-perpetuating misunderstanding of the events.

You got the gist of it from here (or similar places), but many of the people here (even, or perhaps especially those that had really vocal opinions) also got the gist of it in similar ways. The whole thing turned into a huge game of chinese whispers, where only the really easy bits to latch onto were perpetuated as people played down, played up, omitted or outright invented events to help reinforce their stance on the whole thing, and the whole thing became overly simplified in the wrong direction.

Your understanding isn't quite what happened, but it's been a heavily outspoken interpretation on the events, and is at least closer to the mark (though still unsavoury) than the conspiracy theories I've seen.

I'm glad the rest of your comment was positive/supportive, in a way unrelated to the interpretation of events, rather than vindictive based on gathered second-hand information.

I figured that misinformation was being spread around, so I'm just assuming the basics up there. I don't think Noah Antwiler would go out of his way to bait someone and toss nasty remarks at them without being provoked first. I DO think that he would make an off-color twitter post - but on the other hand, it seems very much in the realm of BANTER. People on Channel Awesome spend most of their time viewing media and tearing them to metaphorical pieces, but suddenly when someone else makes a joke, they're suddenly super sensitive and hurt? A MONTH after the tweet was made?

Regardless, I'm trying to be positive about the situation. The Spoony Experiment is a great show, I think it brought something unique to Channel Awesome, and I'm going to watch it if it's there or not. I'm just disappointed in everyone's behavior.

-snip-

hmm... you kinda raise an interesting point. Spoony was more the one to touch on the negative things. His rants and rages seemed to fill a nitch in review style and tone. NC was more about the wild and nonsensical, Linkara more soft spoken and intellectual sounding, Joe more excited about the positives and spoony covered the rage and negatives. Wonder if that will be noticed in absence?

Yes, Spoony is able to gush over the cool things, and he has a talent for making even the lame things instantly hilarious and memorable (the astmosFEAR-style games for halloween, for example). At the same time, he'll bash crappy media for being crappy. He's one of the few reviewers that I feel doesn't bring baggage into his review, it's just his honest impressions. That's why you tend to get mixed sentiments about the media, because very few things are ONLY good or ONLY bad.

 

[JimB]

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Psst...You uh, you kind of attributed that to the wrong fellow, there.

I was talking about the big business, which I believe is Spoony's goal. But if he's planning on using his site as a "launch pad to greater things" then I'm sorry, but that won't work now. He damaged his own image several times already and I doubt that any studio would approach him.

Yeah...I mean, the entertainment business is evolving to the point where gossip bloggers like Perez Hilton can get radio shows (he is still on the radio, right?), so Mr. Antwiler could get lucky here, but I don't know. This recent business seems like just a wee bit of a setback, heh.

Are you saying Mr. Antwiler was the one waving a white flag, meaning he was the only one, which means Channel Awesome was still continuing some kind of campaign against him?

Of course not.

Okay, just checking. I was pretty firmly stuck in argumentative mode last night, so I was pretty sure I was misreading you but couldn't quite figure out where. Thanks for clarifying.

No doubt his newly diagnosed mental illness has mellowed him to start thinking with his right mind again, yet you don't seem to acknowledge this behavior as a progressively better development. I don't know why that is.

It's because I think the standard of "better" here is skewed. When people say he's getting better, they seem to measure it in terms of how close he is to getting re-hired by thatguywiththeglasses.com, and I don't know if he wants that, or even if he should. It could genuinely be time for him to move on for his own reasons and his own sake.

I do think he's getting better in that he seems much more calm and reasonable, and the barometer of his emotional weather is the standard I would prefer everyone use for that judgment.

Also, @JimB:

We are supposed to believe you that you also have a mental disease by your own words only, but then you go on to question if the Spoony One isn't simply lying to all of us about his bipolar II disorder?

Two things.

First, I have never once accused Mr. Antwiler of lying about his diagnosis, and I'm pretty damned sure I haven't mentioned his credibility at all in this thread (you can feel free to go back and check, but I can't be bothered to), because so far as I can tell, he has been one hundred percent honest every step of the way. He hasn't always been nice or friendly, but he's been honest.

If you'll read the comments you're trying to take me to task for, you will note I specifically referred to the accuracy of his diagnosis, and diagnosis is the responsibility of the doctor, not the patient. If that's still somehow unclear, then listen up: That explicitly means I don't know how much I believe his doctor, since at least one doctor, possibly the same one who just handed down this diagnosis, bungled the last one. I hope this one is correct if only so they don't spend another year or so treating him for the wrong disease, but either way, I don't actually care if he suffers from bipolar II or not. It's just a name. What I care about is that I don't think it's fair for the users on this forum to immediately use the diagnosis as an excuse for his behavior when just a few hours before they'd been arguing that depression pardons him.

Second, no, you're not supposed to believe anything particular about my mental state. I don't care what you think of it. I'm not running a PR campaign for anyone, and the bottle of pills sitting on my kitchen counter isn't going to vanish if you don't believe in them, so your opinion about the veracity of my psychiatric history is pretty well meaningless to me. Neither your acceptance nor your refutation are going to keep me awake tonight.

Not to hate on you...[snip]

Nah, no offense taken. Keep doing what you do, Karadalis.

 

[TheDrunkNinja]

Are you saying Mr. Antwiler was the one waving a white flag, meaning he was the only one, which means Channel Awesome was still continuing some kind of campaign against him?

Of course not.

Okay, just checking. I was pretty firmly stuck in argumentative mode last night, so I was pretty sure I was misreading you but couldn't quite figure out where. Thanks for clarifying.

No doubt his newly diagnosed mental illness has mellowed him to start thinking with his right mind again, yet you don't seem to acknowledge this behavior as a progressively better development. I don't know why that is.

It's because I think the standard of "better" here is skewed. When people say he's getting better, they seem to measure it in terms of how close he is to getting re-hired by thatguywiththeglasses.com, and I don't know if he wants that, or even if he should. It could genuinely be time for him to move on for his own reasons and his own sake.

I do think he's getting better in that he seems much more calm and reasonable, and the barometer of his emotional weather is the standard I would prefer everyone use for that judgment.

Oh, there's no way in hell he's going to be rehired any time this year if such an option is even possible at this point.

I meant "better" in terms of his mental break. Like he's slowed down a bit since going from zero to ten last week. Actually trying for some semblance of peace is a good sign that he's mellowing as I said before. Again, his sobering is probably due to him having to deal with this new diagnosis since that kind of thing tends to pull you back down to reality now matter how high in the clouds your head is.

 

[JimB]

I meant "better" in terms of his mental break. Like he's slowed down a bit since going from zero to ten last week. Actually trying for some semblance of peace is a good sign that he's mellowing as I said before.

These are all reasonable and honorable things you have said, and I agree with both your analysis and your intent behind them.

 

[CAPTCHA]

What's this about him having Bi-Polar? If it's true that he's being diagnosed with this then he can pretty much forget about pursuing a career in entertainment, at least for the time being. Standard protocol is for doctors to issue Olanzapine until the patient is under control (can take years, if ever). This is a strong drug that really changes a person. They become lethargic, uncreative and unresponsive to stimuli. There's no way someone on this drug could pursue a career in entertainment, especially if they are responcible for creating content.

There are people who have over come this illness and made a name for themselves in showbiz (Stephan Fry for example), but I think they have had a long time to come to come to terms with their illness. If Spoony has really been diagnosed with bi-polar hes pretty much got a choice to make. Take his meds, sign of welfair and forget about his career, or keep on doing what he's doing and get progressivly worse.

 

[JimB]

Mr. Antwiler's diagnosis is not bipolar disorder: It's bipolar II disorder. It's a pretty high-functioning form of bipolar, and one I hope is more manageable.

 

[yawgmothx]

Does anyone have the bro-ly remarks that have some of the TGWTG producers standing with Spoony? I saw some of the stuff that was against him and it's depressing as hell, could use a dose of win.

 

[renaissance_nerd]

What's this about him having Bi-Polar? If it's true that he's being diagnosed with this then he can pretty much forget about pursuing a career in entertainment, at least for the time being. Standard protocol is for doctors to issue Olanzapine until the patient is under control (can take years, if ever). This is a strong drug that really changes a person. They become lethargic, uncreative and unresponsive to stimuli. There's no way someone on this drug could pursue a career in entertainment, especially if they are responcible for creating content.

There are people who have over come this illness and made a name for themselves in showbiz (Stephan Fry for example), but I think they have had a long time to come to come to terms with their illness. If Spoony has really been diagnosed with bi-polar hes pretty much got a choice to make. Take his meds, sign of welfair and forget about his career, or keep on doing what he's doing and get progressivly worse.

there is a significant difference between Bi-polar and bi-polar II. Please let's not confuse the two.

 

[S.K. Ren]

I honestly can't see how the original tweet could be interpreted as rape. Sure he's offering to chain her BUT lots of people do that for fun themselves. It didn't say he'd force her, rather that the option was available. It wasn't an offhand rape joke, it was a BDSM joke. Seriously wtf CA? Grow up.

 

[JimB]

It wasn't an offhand rape joke; it was a BDSM joke. Seriously, WTF, Channel Awesome? Grow up.

Has anyone ever seen Mr. Antwiler deny that it was a rape joke? I haven't. Thus far, the only people I know of to deny it's a rape joke are people who want to insult the employees of Channel Awesome.

 

[Jegsimmons]

It wasn't an offhand rape joke; it was a BDSM joke. Seriously, WTF, Channel Awesome? Grow up.

Has anyone ever seen Mr. Antwiler deny that it was a rape joke? I haven't. Thus far, the only people I know of to deny it's a rape joke are people who want to insult the employees of Channel Awesome.

actually to be fair, it can be TAKEN as a rape joke, but probably wasnt intended to be anything other than an off color joke about bondage and hard loving.

But seriously watch any of the "Ask that guy" sketches, spoony is fucking tame compared to that disturbing series....which is hilarious.

 

[Jegsimmons]

Also for everyone wondering about Bipolar 2 disorder:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bipolar_II_disorder

 

[trlkly]

Okay, so it might have already been said, but I can't read the whole thread right now. But actually read the announcement. It's full of lies. Sure, they can't come right out and say they fired him for having a bipolar break, but they could at least admit they fired him, and not try to make it sound like it was a mutual decision. And then they go on to say that they hope he goes on to make content, like they're all buddies who want the best for one another. Yeah, people don't attack people on Twitter for people they want the best for.

I generally don't hate people, but I'm having a hard time now. I'm not sure that, if one of them were to post about, say, their mother dying, I could feel sorry for them.